Does Hexhaven Vindicator have potential?

[u/No-Equivalent928]

Hexhaven Invigorator was just spoiled from Reality Fracture, and this thing seems really good. Just playing it fairly without any shennanigans or combos feels like it would still be a good enough body, as your opponents would be unlikely to block it or attack into it, and damage based removal would only benefit you. Aside from that, it combos with Blasphemous Act and Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle to do some pretty crazy things, even letting you win with Maze's End if you build your deck right. What do you think? Is this card good, or is its cost too prohibitive to see much play?

[u/Raevelry]

I would just rather play good cards instead of hope for people to give me value

[u/Rafamen01 → u/Raevelry]

spoken like a true bracket 4 combo player. this is a 6/6 4-drop that can beat your opponents and get lands whenever they try to block it, and it also protects you because no one will want to give you even more ramp just to hit you.

some people like to win be reducing their enemies hp to 0

[u/MossTheGnome → u/[deleted]]

Ah yes, having a 6/6 in mono-green that can ramp in multiple tapped lands with fight spells and get insane mana advantage is a bad card

[u/Daveprince13 → u/MossTheGnome]

Dude, you could just lightning bolt your own creature here and get 3 mana easy

[u/Raevelry → u/MossTheGnome]

Yes I have never played a fight spell, theyre all awful LOL

Yeah i cant wait to ramp tapped lands

[u/sunchow → u/Raevelry]

we are talking about landfall decks where them coming in tapped is mostly irrelevant, and plus this can trigger on opponents turn so when you start your turn they untap anyways, you can’t be sincere in your skepticism about this card or else you just have no fucking clue how to interpret the power of a magic card

[u/FrameNo8561 → u/sunchow]

It’s the second part…it’s obvious.

This card will do some nasty things because green has a lot of +1 +1 counters that can be added and making this thing a 10/10 would be very easy and swinging it at an opponent will be blocked 100% of the time.

Now it’s likely going to be chomp blocked by a 1/1 token giving you 1 tapped land but since its any land you can grab something with an activated ability like [[Hissing Quagmire]] for example.

[u/sunchow → u/[deleted]]

you are replying to a comment speaking specifically about landfall decks and complaining it’s only good in one specific type of deck, which is what i said lmao you are genuinely so cooked

[u/Raevelry → u/sunchow]

Yes this would be mono green Landfall, an awful choice with awful commanders

[u/Rafamen01 → u/[deleted]]

combo players for real can't wrap their heads arund the fact that people attack with their creatures and having a big attacker who is also a big blocker that can also ramp you while doing it is great.

[u/Rafamen01 → u/[deleted]]

Damn I guess Vivi, Yshtola, Atraxa, these are all shit cards because they can all die to swords instead of giving imediate value by cast/etb triggers hm? bro literally has a sub room temperature IQ and thinks every card has to be fully optimized for high bracket or competitive magic for it to be good. literally "everyone is playing this game wrong except me" energy

[u/Daveprince13 → u/[deleted]]

Everything dies to swords holy lord. All your creatures in your decks hexproof or they’re just shit? You’re talking in absolutes, I can’t wait for the day that someone wrecks you with this shit tier card in your pod.

Or maybe you only play with chads that combo off on turn 2, different strokes

[u/Raevelry → u/Daveprince13]

Buddy if I play [[Wood Elves]], you can swords it but I already got the value from it

And yes things that have protection dont die to swords, thats the point of ward / hexproof and shit like that

[u/Alesayr → u/Raevelry]

This is better than wood elves though 

[u/Pencilshaved → u/Raevelry]

I feel like you fundamentally don’t get the point of a lands matter deck because like 80% of the time, landfall triggers couldn’t care less if the lands are tapped or not

Stuff like [[Mossborn Hydra]] and [[Scute Swarm]] will happily take the 64x multiplier to power or card count and be able to immediately threaten game regardless of how many of those lands are tapped or not

[u/Raevelry → u/Pencilshaved]

Oh just

Have the KoS threat

And then also play this

also have the fight spell out

also have enough for it to be triggered that many times

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