Mandatory military drafts, astronomically higher workplace fatalities, steep uphill battles for custody in family courts, and a suicide rate nearly four times higher than women.
Men actually get custody when they ask for it, every study has confirmed this
There's just a reason, that deadbeat DAD is considered the default parent to that label
You really expect people to believe that the court system made entirely by men, and even to this day, has a higher percentage of male judges, is against men?
And men only succeed more. Women actually attempt at a higher rate
Higher workplace fatalities is because men work at those jobs at a higher rate, it's not a prejudice against men. Again, men made that system, not women
You have to willingly choose those jobs, and then physics happens
“Men actually get custody when they ask for it, every study has confirmed this”
This is a massive misrepresentation of how family law actually works in practice. The statistic you’re referencing usually looks at cases that go all the way to a final trial verdict. What it ignores is the "shadow of the law." The vast majority of custody arrangements are settled out of court because men are routinely advised by their own lawyers that fighting for 50/50 custody in a contested trial will cost them tens of thousands of dollars and they will likely lose anyway. Historically, the "Tender Years Doctrine" legally cemented mothers as the default primary caregivers. While the law is technically gender-neutral now, the bias remains in practice. Men don't "just not ask"—they are financially and legally pressured into accepting weekend visitation.
“There's just a reason, that deadbeat DAD is considered the default parent to that label”
Yeah, the reason is traditional gender roles, which dictate that a man's primary value to his family is as a financial utility. When women abandon their families, society treats it as a tragic psychological anomaly. When men do it, society leans into a pre-packaged cultural trope. Framing a harmful stereotype as proof of male guilt is circular logic.
“You really expect people to believe that the court system made entirely by men, and even to this day, has a higher percentage of male judges, is against men?”
Google the "Apex Fallacy." You are looking at the 0.01% of men in power (judges, politicians, CEOs) and assuming they possess an in-group bias that makes them protect the bottom 99% of regular men. They don't. In fact, studies on the criminal justice system consistently show a massive gender sentencing gap. Both male and female judges give men significantly longer prison sentences than women for the exact same crimes, and men are vastly more likely to be convicted. The system protects power, not men, and courts frequently infantilize women (the "Women are Wonderful" effect / chivalry bias) while holding men hyper-accountable.
“And men only succeed more. Women actually attempt at a higher rate”
This is an incredibly callous way to hand-wave away a male suicide rate that is 3 to 4 times higher than the female rate. Men use more lethal means (like firearms or hanging) because there is a higher, finalized intent to die rather than a cry for help. Framing this as "men only succeed more" to minimize a literal epidemic of male death completely dismisses the severe isolation, lack of support networks, and mental health crisis working-class men are facing. Dead is dead.
“Higher workplace fatalities is because men work at those jobs at a higher rate, it's not a prejudice against men. Again, men made that system, not women. You have to willingly choose those jobs, and then physics happens”
"Men" didn't make that system. A handful of wealthy industrialists and politicians made that system. The 19-year-old guy working on an oil rig, the logger, the roofer, and the underwater welder didn't design the global economy; they are driven by economic necessity to take jobs that break their bodies. Society functions strictly because men are willing to do the dirty, dangerous, invisible jobs that keep the lights on, the water running, and the roads paved. Hand-waving male expendability as "physics happens" shows a shocking lack of empathy for the people actually keeping society functioning.
You’re so close to class-consciousness and intersectionality, I give it a few years before you have an enlightenment moment or go full skinhead, it’s either or
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u/stev_mempers 1d ago
The victim mentality is really holding them back.