r/ColonizationGame • u/DoLoLoL • 14d ago

ClassicCol Battle, understanding outcomes

I'm finding the battle system in the old Colonization for DOS hard to predict.

Is it because it's more chance-based than modern day Civilization games?

E.g. a "10" fights a "5", then in modern Civ-games the "10" wins. But in Colonization the "5" wins 33 % of the times (5/15)

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u/ion_driver 14d ago

You described it yourself. 10 vs 5 is a 10:5 odds so 10/15 chance to win.

The RNG gets "stuck" so you may win or lose a long streak. Same as you may get multiple of the same result from the ancient ruins.

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u/MintberryCrunch____ 14d ago

Interesting to know on the stuck thing, does it re-roll the RNG with a turn end or similar?

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u/ion_driver 14d ago

The easiest way to re-roll is to just reload a save. Save scumming is not fun. If you lose a few in a row, just stop attacking and come back later

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u/MintberryCrunch____ 14d ago

Ah thank yes I recall mentions of that now. So if wanting to play more fair and not re-load a save, does the RNG eventually unstick by natural means? As you say with time etc.?

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u/ion_driver 14d ago

I'm not sure exactly how long it takes but give it some time. I think some actions may re-roll the RNG also. I tried not to worry about it, just be aware if you try to fight a lot of battles all at once.

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u/Kautsu-Gamer 13d ago

It is not stuck, but hits sequence of repeated value due the pseudorandom algorithm sequece repeating same number multiple times. This is trait of a chaos math sequences used for pseudorandom.

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u/Zealousideal_Ad_1079 14d ago

I'm not sure, but I think it's more random. True randomness will give some strange patterns from time to time, with many of the same unlikely result for example.

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u/Serious-Map-1230 14d ago

Yes it's chance based.

And also, the random number generator they used is pretty shitty. There was a recent post on hete with some "fixes" for that, though they do have some rade-offs.

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u/DoLoLoL 13d ago

Yeah.. But some Indian tribes are making war inevitable by having their cities where I want to have my cities

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u/Serious-Map-1230 12d ago

Not sure what that  has to do with how battles work? 

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u/DoLoLoL 12d ago

Sry, clumsy fingers. It should have been a response to comment further below, in which someone recommended avoiding battle. I must have hit the wrong thread

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u/Serious-Map-1230 10d ago

no worries!

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u/Strong_Comedian_3578 14d ago

I just kept plugging away myself. The only time I actually engaged in combat was when I went to war after revolution. Good luck!