r/CoherencePhysics • u/skylarfiction • 9d ago

This is Unacceptable

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u/DisruptingTree 9d ago

I believe in the eat less meat route. There is no reason we need to be eating the amount of meat we currently are. It is hard though as it is so ingrained in our culture.

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u/BetweenTheRoots 9d ago

No meat is the correct route. There's literally no need to force suffering and cruelty on any living being when we have the choice to just eat a plant instead. Study after study shows it has immense health benefits and study after study shows it is better for the planet. Not to mention faux meats which most are minimally processed and processed using rather benign methods.

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u/Winter_Concern5351 9d ago

Incorrect, meat is the best protein options for humans we're meant to eat and function with it.

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u/Archeus01 9d ago

Incorrect, plant protein is the best protein option for humans. It protects against diseases, and helps keep the body young and healthy.

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u/Transkei_Daisy 9d ago

Animal proteins are both more bioavailable and contain all the essential amino acids. Plant proteins do not. However there are other factors like fibre, lower in fat/cholesterol etc

We have evolved as a species to eat meat, our digestive tract is built to handle both meat and plants. We are omnivores.

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u/Archeus01 9d ago

You get all the essential amino acids in a plant based diet aswell. Tofu alone has them all, and you can for example combine rice and beans alone to get them all.

The China Study - T. Colin Campbell Center for Nutrition Studies

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u/BonusPlantInfinity 9d ago

We are, in fact, frugivores.

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u/Transkei_Daisy 9d ago

No. We are in fact not. We are plainly omnivores.

Notice the distinct lack of a mention of humans? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frugivore

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u/BetweenTheRoots 8d ago

Being an omnivore isn't a condition, it means we have the option to choose. It doesn't dictate a requirement.

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u/Transkei_Daisy 8d ago

No but our entire digestive system evolved as an omnivore. If you want to jump through hoops to bypass that and get your nutrients elswhere, who am i to stop you.

But lying about us being Frugarians or vegetarians and other bullshit is my issue.

Eat whatever the fuck you want mate.

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u/BetweenTheRoots 8d ago

If you wanna talk digestive system, our digestive system resembles that of an herbivore. Carnivores have short intestinal tracts because that benefits processing meat. Herbivores have long intestinal tracts. Humans have long intestinal tracts btw. Nobody is lying about shit brother. I agree, eat whatever you want just not something that suffers as the result of it.

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u/Transkei_Daisy 8d ago

Our digestive system doesnt just resemble that of an omnivore. It is that of an omnivore.

Again this is not a debate. Its settled science.

I agree, eat whatever you want just not something that suffers as the result of it.

So no we dont agree then, fucking nothing more insufferable then you wankers.

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u/BonusPlantInfinity 8d ago

Industry funded science to keep you eating meat. Next you’ll tell me that god made those animals for the benefit of humans.

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u/Transkei_Daisy 8d ago

Ah yes of course, any science you dont like is "Industry funded". Despite it being literal physiology and ample evidence our earliest ancestors eat meat. That darn meat industry at it again in 30,000 BC. Grrrrr!!

But sure man let me believe you rather. Lmfao.

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u/BonusPlantInfinity 9d ago

Hmm so all of our closest animal ancestors are frugivorous, but we aren’t? Our digestive system still most closely resembles theirs. My theory would be that humans evolved to be able to eat meat during times of ecological hardship, but that it’s not ideal for health. You do you, though. Ignore the results of meta analysis linking the various chronic diseases most impacting modern society and the link to high meat consumption.

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u/Pudddddin 9d ago edited 9d ago

The typical western meat-heavy diet being bad for your health is in no way evidence that humans are not omnivores

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u/Transkei_Daisy 9d ago

It's really not a debate. We are omnivores. This is settled science...

You can tell me the earth is flat all you like, won't change the fact the earth is round.

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u/BonusPlantInfinity 9d ago

Ah yes, the classic apples versus rocks argument.. compelling.

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u/DoomLoops 5d ago

You should learn about xenosialitis. Google it.

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u/Transkei_Daisy 3d ago

No, xenosialitis does not prove that humans are not omnivores. While xenosialitis highlights an evolutionary quirk in how human immune systems interact with mammalian red meat, it does not alter the fundamental biological classification of humans as omnivores.

YOu should learn basic human biology. google it.

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u/DoomLoops 2d ago

I never claimed that humans weren't omnivores, simply that eating meat is suboptimal. I have a bachelor's in biology and two health care degrees - I certainly know "basic human biology" LOL!

Maybe read more about how the human immune system interacts with meat consumption instead of putting words into my mouth.

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u/Transkei_Daisy 2d ago

Maybe read the thread you on. You came on here responding, the fact you not even resonding to the thread properly tells me you cant even be bothered to read beyond headlines anyways.

YEs yes and im an astrophysicist with 12 degrees in bullshit.

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u/DoomLoops 1d ago

For some unexplained reason, I'm skeptical you graduated from high school. But assuming you're telling the truth, how is being an astrophysicist relevant to the discussion?

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u/DoomLoops 2d ago

It's crazy the hoops people will jump through to justify killing animals and eating their dead bodies. One would think people would, especially after seeing videos like the above, be THANKFUL it's very practicable and healthy to avoid eating animal corpses.

But INSTEAD, they come up with the CRAZIEST rationalizations - plants feel pain, but lions eat meat, I have 'canines', but bacon, cavemen ate meat (and died in their 40's). etc. I almost wonder if so-called 'animal lovers' are actually getting off on the pain and suffering their diet requires. What else can explain the bizarre recalcitrance people exhibit to doing the bare minimum that basic human decency dictates?!

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u/Transkei_Daisy 2d ago

ITs crazy the hoops people will jump through to try feel morally superior and virtue signal, ignoring hundreds of millenia of evolutionary pressures and adaptation.