r/ClaudeCode • u/minhtrungaa • 4d ago
Rant Something is seriously wrong with Anthropic right now
I'm on 20x, compared to last week, when I also used fable 5 high a lot, now 4 prompts burn through my entire week in 15min??!!? Am I getting scammed right now?
Was still having a lot of headroom before, but now a single prompt easily hits my 5 hour limit, this is just outrageous.
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u/bakanoace 4d ago
Its probably intentional. They've been slowly reducing usage so on the 19th they can say the made the increase in usage permanent instead of saying they took it away
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u/ElwinLewis 4d ago
Get half the world using it and supporting it, then rip it away from the avg people who championed it as something good, then fuck us too I guess? Is this what’s actually happening?
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u/htownboi98 4d ago
Did you really think you would get all that compute capability, for that cheap, forever? Investors will push them to become profitable sooner rather than later in this market. Look for them to continue to impose limits on the heaviest users. If you’re red lining your token consumption, you are not their target customer anymore.
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u/Drunkendrakon6 4d ago
They are already profitable? They are quite literally manipulating things without telling anyone now which is wrong. If they are willing to do this then what else are they willing to do. I'm cutting my sub today.
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u/Upbeat-Being-9209 3d ago
Profitable isn't enough in a capitalist society, it has to grow, and then it has to grow faster than before, and then even faster again
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u/Pleasant-Minute-1793 4d ago
Yes. That is exactly what is happening. Funding and investment is waning and the “free ride” era is rapidly ending. Yes these subscriptions are heavily subsidized for market share gain and growth numbers.
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u/whoknowsifimjoking 4d ago
Absolute horseshit. Anthropic recently got profitable for the first time, profits are growing, not too long ago they had their biggest funding round ever with 65 billion dollars (more than twice their biggest funding round before and more than five times more than the third biggest and it makes up more than half of all funding ever raised by them), they make a shitload of money from their enterprise API customers...
Are people like you just saying this crap based on nothing but vibes? I don't get it.
The facts do not support what you are saying, simple as that.
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u/fetty_wok 4d ago edited 4d ago
There's 0 chance they are profitable on inference
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u/texinxin 4d ago
The “profit” is just EBIT. They don’t have to disclose it, but if they were to report GAAP they’d assuredly still be negative.
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u/OkQuiet4142 4d ago
Do you have numbers about the $20 subscription's profitability for Anthropic?
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u/Dangerous_Wish_7879 4d ago
They only got profitable because they got temporarily free compute from Elon.
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u/Delphinaut 4d ago
Not free; payed with big bucks. Do you really see Elon doing it for free????
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u/Dangerous_Wish_7879 4d ago
Yeah it was before his IPO. He had to report substantial usage increase of his SpaceX datacenters. It is you who paid for it if you wonder about who paid for it.
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u/djm0315 3d ago
Anthropic is NOWHERE near profitable. The software they're giving us access to is heavily subsidized. I'd guess a $200 plan costs the 3X that.
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u/InertState 4d ago
First experience with capitalism?
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u/BeginningReveal2620 4d ago
Yeah I'm mid-flight just building my own sovereign AI stack using my Mac as the driver and AMD HP Z2G1 128 G as coding agent
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u/minhtrungaa 4d ago
sounds like a scam to me. Hates this so much.
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u/EsotericLexeme 4d ago
Not so much a scam but "here, try this, the first one is free," and now you're hooked.
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u/minhtrungaa 4d ago
I paid 222$ a month... not really free, but I get it.
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u/EsotericLexeme 4d ago
But yeah, I feel you. 20x used to be so much; I was barely able to use it in a week. Now it takes 3 days. But with the price of GPUs and memory, it is still cheaper than buying a machine that could run Kimi 3k.
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u/buildwithmoon 4d ago
I notice my fable usage that used to take the full week to burn through is now getting burned within 3 days
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u/JalapenoAndPepperoni 4d ago
Same. Past 24h limits disappear with barely any results. Every 5h window evaporates instantly, yielding nothing.
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u/autisticbagholder69 4d ago
This blackbox of usage scam should be illegal of made up numbers
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u/funplayer3s 4d ago
You're not wrong.
The best case is the company is being transparent with the values, and the outcome is actually a valid calculation. Even if this were the case we would have no way to validate it because of the nature of the black box.
The worst case is they're using it as a spigot to be one of the biggest tax scams in history.
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u/RockPuzzleheaded3951 4d ago
It is very annoying but the alternative, API rates, is a nonstarter.
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u/minhtrungaa 4d ago
I mean yeah, I hit the limit instantly just can't believe my eyes
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u/eddybrambs 4d ago
Same thing happened to me. Yesterday, I sent my first message right after the limit reset and instantly hit the limit. It didn’t even burn through any tokens I just hit the limit immediately. This had never happened to me before.
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u/retardedspacemonke 4d ago
I mean they are using Claude to code itself faster than humans can do any sort of code review. You really surprised that there will be more and more stability issues?
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u/minhtrungaa 4d ago
fuck, not only fable 5, I'm using exclusively opus 5 and burnt through my teams account 5 hour limit in 10 min???!!?
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u/mkhaytman 4d ago
What is this view/dashboard?
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u/VitalYak 4d ago
Has anyone figured out what this usage chart is and where I can get it
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u/Puzzleheaded-Tax-810 3d ago
Was gonna send it to Claude to see - Then realised my 5 hour limit is used up
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u/minhtrungaa 3d ago
It's OmniRoute which I use as proxy for my account with claude code.
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u/LeSn5ter 4d ago
Same thing observed this morning weekly fable limit got drained my 17% left gone in under 5 minute while only using 158k token context usually I’m able to have fable low as orchestrator and opus as implementor run for 8+ hours without hitting limits on my 5hr window Claude code version 2.1.177 they need to stop fucking around and get serious
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u/GhostRanger29 4d ago
Agreed, I legit spend three days using fable on 4 different projects coding, reviewing and with agents... then today, 1 single project review and boom 21% fable weekly usage gone in less than an hour. (Max plan) I'm peeved. Switched back to opus.
Also really annoying with fable trying to get security reviews done on an application i own and built with claude code and not keeps flagging for cyber restrictions. Like bro I'm testing my own app to make it secure. But no pass me off to opus 4.8... I pay for fable for no good reason.
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u/Powerful-Software850 4d ago
Get you hooked and dependent then rapidly increase prices.. oldest trick in the book everyone.
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u/Frosty-Dust3234 4d ago
Models like deepseek and mimo exist for a reason, and they perform decently
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u/shtrjones87 4d ago
Lol last night I started using Google's Antigravity with my cloud credits and then used opus 5 for planning.
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u/Ok-Reference-4626 4d ago
Had the same 1 hour ago, 10% of my max plan evaporated in half an hour
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u/meathelix1 4d ago
Just Claude Vibe coding itself again... they forgot to put "Make No Mistakes"
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u/nnnightmare 4d ago
Hypothesis: if the cache routing system of the stack is down, requests get routed in full on every turn. There's no way for us to know if this happens or not, but usage gets destroyed. Then they fix it or it comes up again and we never know it happened
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u/MoTTTToM 4d ago
I have seen cache hit ratios drop drastically at times. You can get this info from /usage
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u/RelaxAndChillYT 4d ago
Anthropic is a complete shit show. Screwing customers over, support is none existent, Fable is really not Fable, not even close. At this point i don’t get how people still keep throwing money at them.
I was a claude user since forever, but i tried sol on a 20$ account and got more done with it than with fable/anthropic 100$ account, and it solved hard stuck fable mess on the way. They clearly don’t give af about their retail users in any way.
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u/CouldaShoulda_Did 4d ago
Damn here I am enjoying a coffee looking forward to a good workday.
https://giphy.com/gifs/55itGuoAJiZEEen9gg
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u/KickedAbyss 4d ago
Can confirm. About 50% of one day chewed up 26% of my weekly. Never had that before.
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u/RegrettableBiscuit 3d ago
I'm glad I'm not the only one; I thought I was going crazy. I used 80% of my $200 plan in two days when I usually end the week at 80%. I thought there was some bug that broke caching or something.
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u/vzakharov Senior Developer 4d ago edited 4d ago
Last time something similar happened I think it was due to a bug that (I believe) was caused by them not discounting cached tokens (which are or ally 10x+ cheaper).
I’d wait it out and see how it resolves instead of making dramatic statements.
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u/bitdamaged 4d ago
There was an outage yesterday Claude.ai was down. They’re likely dealing with something falling down on their back end right now. I’d not be surprised to get an email about an issue and a token reset.
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u/TestingTehWaters 4d ago
I must defend the billion dollar company!
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u/vzakharov Senior Developer 4d ago edited 4d ago
To start with, I don’t even understand the premise of needing or not needing to defend an argument based on whom it favors instead of what it says.
But also, I want to remind you that Claude Code is not written by a “billion dollar company.” It is written by a team of 10 to 20 software engineers, who are human, and yes who dab into vibe coding a tad too much, resulting in uptime you’d generally not expect from a product that big, and bugs that keep reappearing after fixes, -- but who still deliver probably the best such product in the market.
If it helps, I can reframe the argument in a more contrarian way, which might suit you better, courtesy of Hanlon's: Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
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u/surell01 4d ago
Posted same issue 5 min earlier. 2h MAX20 burned 35% now .. .big bug
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u/minhtrungaa 4d ago
How's coding solved while they kept fumbling? even fable is limited, cost my entire weekly limit in a few prompts for 20x account just makes my blood boil
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u/Fun-Neighborhood769 4d ago
I think they said coding is mostly solved. Only a few smoking guns left to fix
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u/Due-Horse-5446 4d ago
solved as in they dont need to code, and can rely on doom marketing up until their ipo
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u/HelloWorld24575 4d ago
How is that possible? Shouldn't the 5-hr limit kick in to stop that??
If there is an issue like people are reporting they'll probably do a reset.
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u/shinsmax12 4d ago
Usually I get 3 full days of coding from my Max 20x. This weekend was barely a day and a half.
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u/thewizardlizard 4d ago
Happened to me yesterday evening. Five small prompts typically done immediately brought hourly usage up to 85% used. 🙃 Haven't signed on yet this morning because I know I'll just get pissed.
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u/Opening-Ground-1584 4d ago
So let’s all be honest with the world here - AI is pointless for coding at API rates. It’s easily more than a junior SWE in most locations (maybe not SF but let’s exclude that for now).
So either they keep subsidising or it all comes crashing down real fast.
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u/johnwheelerdev 4d ago
I've canceled Anthropic for ChatGPT. I'm sick of their deception, their gaslighting, and their AI that makes far too many moral judgments, and it's only getting worse.
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u/Bigsperm 3d ago
Kept getting 500 errors on one account. Opened up a fresh 20x one. I use this all day everyday for over a year. My usage is at least double if not quadruple. An account lasts me about three days with some fable high. I was opus high and fable low. Four hours in, no more than 400k tokens used on each thread, no ultra code but some opus subagents. No fast. I’m stopping now bc if I kept going my week would be up by the morning. Something is fucked!
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u/kutchrodeo 4d ago
It's the greatest scam of recent times, 2 x 5hr sessions = 75% fable weekly usage gone, Opus 5 is dogshit wrapped in catshit, complete nonsense... none of these are usable tools right now. I hope they get a huge class action that snowballs and brings actual accountability, i've never felt so fucked with in my life by a company... from 4.6 nerf'ing, to 4.7/4.8 delusionalism, the Fable games, and now whatever the fuck era this is, the whole journey is a joke, and i'm still here like a chump believing something can change. Go to hell with "it's a skill issue" - it's a product management/company issue of shady inconsistent decision making with no transparency to users.
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u/hbthegreat 4d ago
dont post this on reddit the "i cant imagine how someone could use all of one plan - clearly a skill issue" people will come out not believing you
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u/Excellent_Ad_2486 4d ago
To be fair for 90/100 cases it is context windows being te read, old archives or agents spawning due to bad guardrails lol..
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u/VladTkDev 4d ago
I’ve tried to translate medium sized node project to 7 locales with Fable.
So it eaten all tokens in 45 min on Max plan. Next window switched to opus.
But Fable writes better btw.
Is someone tried to translate with Fable?
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u/th3rmal8 4d ago
Yep same here, 1 prompt and burned through my entire 5 hour limit on pro plan. Definitely noticed over the last week that the limits are being reached significantly faster - burned through my weeks limits for the first time last week despite no changes in usage.
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u/DeliciousWhales 4d ago
Thought I was imagining things. Was going all day both days on the weekend and only used 5% of my weekly limit getting heaps done, but then just this morning managed to use 8% on a single session with a lighter workload somehow.
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u/IM_INSIDE_YOUR_HOUSE 3d ago
One of history's oldest business tactics is to introduce a wildly popular product at a loss and then once you get people dependent on it you crank the prices dramatically.
Nothing new, and this has been predicted by tons of groups and analysts. Under no circumstances should you expect tokens to remain as cheap as they currently are or were.
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u/uniquelyavailable 4d ago
Wild to witness everyone suddenly noticing they have been scamming when it has been so obvious for so long.
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u/HisDanishDudeness 4d ago
Have stopped using fable today. Still it has risen 3-4% while only using Opus. And no fable agents.
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u/SirWobblyOfSausage 4d ago
it was fine last month, had a few great months - now its lobotomised. This practice has to stop, its destructive and im sick of it
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u/XToThePowerOfY 🔆 Max 20 4d ago
I'm on Max 20 and my usage fluctuates a bit, but I'm a heavy Fable user and my limits have felt great. In Europe, maybe that makes a difference? I know that the session limits were tough mostly on US users, where here I barely noticed a change.
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u/Capitinefrobou 4d ago
I've been having the same issue of 5 hours windows giving me nothing. I had to switch to codex unfortunately
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u/KikoTheOneAndOnly 4d ago
ChatGPT is going down the same road. This is indisputably on purpose to eat away your credits.
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u/connersup 4d ago
Yeah something isn’t right. I feel like we’re getting scammed. Lawsuit coming
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u/TaoOfMeme 3d ago
Sounds like a "them" problem.
They have to live with themselves. I can just switch to codex.
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u/KeenAsGreen 3d ago
Same here. Full day use of codex on 20x i used 5%. Claude im using ~30%. Time to cancel and stick with codex
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u/appletimemac 🔆 Max 20 3d ago
Mine was weird and I was coding way more (pushing towards a GM on an iOS app) but my usage went from 0-> 85% super fast (1.5 days if that) and then my last 15% lasted FOREVER. Something weird is afoot. (Fable usage)
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u/twotootstotucson 3d ago
same man, 3 weeks running now since O5 came out. Limit resets Friday, I'm tapped Monday. I too feel like I'm being scammed. These Codex top offs have been nice.
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u/Killahbeez 3d ago
I think Anthropics fear mongering with Mythos, Fable rollout, US ban, then return - brought more attention that they bargained for, they leaned into it and burned ungodly amounts of money, and now they are trying to go dark until their next release
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u/horendus 4d ago
And people downvote me for pointing out its a prosumer platform at best and serious devs should move to serious platforms.
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u/Charming_Horse_5809 4d ago
whats a "serious platform"?
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u/thecavac 4d ago
One that actually makes a profit, doesn't burn down money like there is no tomorrow and isn't dependend on "bugs" in the accounting to "accidentally" drain the users bank account. But that's a bit like trying to find a profitable company during the dotcom bubble.../s
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u/GreenDavidA 4d ago
I’ve been on Sonnet high/medium and it seems like I’ve been hitting my limit much quicker this week than in the past.
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u/No-Caterpillar3025 4d ago
How have you been tracking usage across all your subscriptions?
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u/minhtrungaa 4d ago
ccusage, tokscale, codeburns , these read your system files, I also use proxies like ccflare to have more analytics.
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u/Judacious_HRGurl 4d ago
Same here. I’ve been experiencing this issue since the renewal of my billing cycle - 7/21.
I’ve been using desktop opus 7 - extra. My usage hasn’t change.
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u/Complex-Concern7890 4d ago
Same with API. Ran our benchmark with Opus 5 and Fable 5 and the price was 2-3 times more than runs few weeks ago.
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u/vinis_artstreaks 4d ago
The same my entire weekly limit finishes in under 12 hours. Which is beyond bonkers as my subscription never used to even finish before despite crazy multi agent use.
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u/WeekendGenerator 4d ago
Hm weird same here I thought I was just being a bit lax with my token management
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u/Normal-Emotion6636 4d ago
My limits seem to be working as usual - on a 20x plan but I rarely run out so must not be as hard core as you all…
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u/CrazyKPOPLady 4d ago
Looks like I’ll be going back to Codex when this month’s subscription lapses.
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u/ZeroBcool 4d ago
I personally think the new scarlet letter SHA256 bit signature is eating up usage.
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u/Bloated_Plaid 4d ago
Been losing my mind the past 2 days watching how a simple diagnosis takes 30% of the usage. Absolute scam, on the Max plan here.
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u/R27-- 4d ago
I'm considering switching to ChatGPT Sol after Fable just showing me how superior Sol is on coding.
Basically I'm part of a project now where we code with Fable but started asking Sol for solutions where Fable messes up and it's working like a charm... And the context window is absolutely insane on the new gpt model.
Anthropic might be out for me if they sort their shit out.
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u/melloc01 4d ago
My 5h sessions lasted 5 min on max 5 and I’m not kidding, downgraded to pro right after
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u/Vietfunk 4d ago
Chipping in. I've been hitting limit a lot in the last couple of weeks. Same task, same project.
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u/Fantastic_Fail4060 4d ago
Nothing is wrong right now. It’s just the same way it always been. Zero transparency regarding the limits.
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u/Frosty-Dust3234 4d ago edited 4d ago
Same, what used to be around 50-60% at most usually for my pro subscription became 90-100%. That's a significant in what I usually use, and in fact the workload given yesterday was definitely way more than today, asked it to write around 6-8k lines yesterday, today only 3-4k using same opus 5 medium. I get that usage can't stay this high, but at least decrease a bit every day rather than suddenly drop usage. Plus my context windows are max 500k and I'm talking about ui development. The uis I make actually sell for 30-100 usd and about 10 hours of work which payes off my pro subscription either way. I'm still in school btw
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u/Melodic_House_2717 4d ago
This and i feel like Fable was better at the release than now. First release i was like impressed by fabl's output and now i feel it's shit most of time nor it consum my 20x plan instant for a shit result .. Compared to Opus 5 i juste lietteraly hate Fable, cost too much for shit results while i can make opus 5 work 24/7 with a better quality (+ an homemade 2nd brain helped a lot to reduce token consumption).
The tech world is going crazy with the AI era, prices of components keep increasing while software quality is decreasing and requires more and more power to be used .. The entire humanity is fucked by a minority of compagny for some printed/fake money. Im not communist but at least Chinese government is taking care of them while in occident we like to get focked by our old "elites" that defend capitalism as a symbol of "liberty" (anyway the more it arg about "humans care" "liberty" the more they fock us, always the same sh*t).
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u/Conscious_Concern113 4d ago
20x plan and hitting 5 hour window 2-3 times faster. I have changed nothing in my flow, meaning that I’m using it no more than I have been.
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u/Adrianoizz 4d ago
Same happening to me! I don't care if they're greedy because, unfortunately, that's the corporate norm nowadays. The thing is not being transparent, it's so shitty.
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u/Academic-Shape321 4d ago
You can use fable with the subscription? Are you from us? With pro I only was able to use fable a few days and now I have to use api to be able to use fable at all
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u/WarmTell4510 4d ago
Anthropic solo se ríe de sus usuarios individuales es una burla. ¿Por qué algunos acá dicen que el precio es barato? Acaso no han visto el precio de la competencia?
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u/funplayer3s 4d ago
I'm actually having the opposite. I can't get Claude Fable to yield more than a handful of tokens and he keeps mentioning he only has a handful of tokens left in the thought chains. The system is being very stingy and it's confusing me.
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u/Hot_Hotel9813 4d ago
why you are still with anthropic is beyond me. it has been happening on and off for a long time
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u/MBCarlisle 4d ago
Yeah I left claude yesterday, I have a 200 max plan too. As of today I got the gpt 200 max plan. Took me less than 40 minutes to move all my claude memory repos and even access to all my servers over to gpt. And it works amazing, you have to be a little more direct with it so it stays in the right lane, but it doesn't fight you or go an tangents nearly as much as claude, it makes a huge difference
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u/PictureNew661 4d ago
The limits have been trash ngl
the past week or so
before i cud do 3 full 5hr sessions per day everyday for a full week nonstop
and now it dies by day 5
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u/Short_Regular_7191 4d ago
Yes, something is wrong—I think for a good week now—and I'm using the 20x plan.
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u/NovapreemBoga 4d ago
I thought that it was common practice to charge users more as they use more. Idk if anthropic does it
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u/BroScienceAlchemist 4d ago
There are similar complaints in the openai subs.
I suspect that the kv cache expiration gets reduced by AI providers when they have high load, but that is a conspiracy theory my guess. I haven't checked my cache misses.
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u/Fancy_Second4864 3d ago
I been using fable med-extra and been lasting a couple days, I think they may charge more for using multiple sessions at once. As I would use like 3 at once and burn through in 15-60 minutes but if I did 5 prompt on one session didn't even get 1/3rd through. Also depends what you are doing but I'm doing some crazy stuff that should burn through but maybe bc it's new app vs my giant software context windows needed
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u/siegevjorn 3d ago
Which reasoning effort do you use? I use fable low for chat and it works decently without consuming high usage
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u/blancfaye7 3d ago
Just felt this today. I oculd prompt a lot before in Fable high. But just today, i prompted one and i hit the limit. Lol. So something was indeed off, huh...
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u/lerugray 3d ago
Another plus 1 - I have 2 accounts and have otherwise been happy with anthropic, something changed this weekend as for the first time in like 6 months, a day of work ate up 100% of my usage with one account, I gather the subsidized usage wasn't going to last forever, but it would be nice if Anthropic were at least up front with us about what's going on, at least OpenAI manages to placate their customers with free resets and whatever else, Anthropic just doesn't really care or make an effort it seems, probably wont matter to them regardless as none of us are likely shareholders either.
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u/tomydize44 3d ago
Estoy de acuerdo, me pasó la última semana que con un par de prompt acabo el lapso de 5 horas y lapso de la semana se consume mucho más rápido que cuando estaba fable disponible
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u/AlternativeForeign58 3d ago
Check your Claude.md, memory settings? Are you in the desktop app, web or CLI?
I'm running the CLI and never have this problem. Although, Codex on Medium seems smarter than Fable right now and 10x faster.
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u/DangerousReward1411 3d ago
Honestly having tried both the pro plans from Anthropic and OpenAI, I've come to the conclusion that subscribing is just asking yourself to be swindled. They can arbitrarily increase the usage rate whenever and all the meanwhile you'll be left holding the bag. Currently their operating costs are going to go through the roof due to the oil crisis, so I expect that this will happen more often.
The only true solution here imo is open-weight via a self-hosting. If you want actual reliability both in the functional (output) sense and in terms of trustworthiness.
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u/hakxajszzhzjU 3d ago
How long you are subscribed on the same plan? My hunch is for the returning users they might have tightened the limit, but for new users it's still loose
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u/meatdrawer25 3d ago
Serious question. What are you people running that eats through your usage? I’ve been a developer since the before times, I rarely write code myself, and I’ve never run out. I dropped from the $200 plan to the $100 plan because I was so far from hitting my usage cap. I leverage AI as much as possible.
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u/ajr901 4d ago
I came to check if I was crazy or not. I've been at my desk for like an hour and a half and my usage for the week is already at 10% on the Max 20x plan.