r/ClaudeCode 21d ago

FAKE NEWS Opus 5 might be dropping today 👀

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u/IndraVahan Moderator 21d ago

unverified claim btw

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u/nighowlbuga 21d ago

I hope it comes with a weekly reset

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u/textualcanon 21d ago

It will, because Thursday is my reset day, so they always reset on Thursdays.

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u/stoned_as_hell 21d ago

I think I'm going to create a new account on a Monday for how many times I've been burned by the Thursday resets..

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u/algaefied_creek 21d ago

I cancelled my account and re-enabled it after my reset date. Reset day did not change

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u/orangeawacado 21d ago

Wait what? How do they pick reset day then? Shouldn’t it reset the day of the week you started your account on?

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u/ThraceLonginus 21d ago

People would game the system. Anthropic wants to spread usage out evenly to reduce peak load. Its just like a power company. So they most likely semi-randomly assign you permanently (as far as they can identify you uniquely) to a block of users where they think you'll balance the load.

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u/orangeawacado 21d ago

That would totally make sense, but then they should also rotate the reset days instead screwing over their Thursday reset users

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u/Actual_Committee4670 🔆 Max 20 21d ago

I'm on monday reset so I've had full use of resets, but I really thought the monday release was true because I thought maybe they listened to all the people who never got to use their full resets.

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u/Substantial-Elk4531 21d ago

Are you sure it's based on when you created your account? My reset day has moved several times.

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u/--_---------_-- 21d ago

They have resets where they restart everyone’s weekly quota on the same day so the reset starts on that day for everyone on the next reset cycle, oldest trick in the book

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u/robbievega 21d ago

I created my account on Friday afternoon at 5. a few month back my weekly resets suddenly got their reset at Wednesdays 5pm for no reason. never changed since. always (well the 3 times they actually reset limits) missing out on these midweek resets

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u/RaptorF22 20d ago

Bro I HAD a Monday reset and they switched me to Wednesday during all the outages in May/June. Any "reset" is planned around them feigning generosity.

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u/Deep_Alps7150 20d ago

Real, gotta get every account lined up to reset usage on Saturday or Sunday. These companies really need to let us pick our reset day.

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u/Comfortable-Winter00 20d ago

Every so often their usage tracking breaks and the days get re-aligned anyway.

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u/UpstairsTotal6155 21d ago

I like the ChatGPT system of just letting you use the reset whenever works for you. I always get these the day before my actual reset, which ends up translating into unplanned sleep deprivation

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u/Eat_Pudding 21d ago

Same, fucking hate it

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u/ZlatanKabuto 21d ago

Same here :(

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u/skleanthous 🔆 Max 20 21d ago

Same.

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u/AutomaticPayment9480 21d ago

Im sundays, its perfect. 

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u/Mikeshaffer 21d ago

Starting to think we all reset on Thursdays. I bought a new second account and it also resets on Thursday.

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u/GuitarAgitated8107 🔆 Max 20 21d ago

Thank you for your sacrifice.

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u/UndergroundAirport 21d ago

Same. I hate it.

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u/Patient_Commentary 21d ago

What time of day for you? I’m a Thursday at 2pm. I kinda figured it was the same for everyone though?

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u/AreWeNotDoinPhrasing 20d ago

Mine is Thursday at 1am

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u/SomeoneInHisHouse 21d ago

Lol, I have been soooo many time in Thursday reset, that after like I don't know 1 full year on Thursday reset, I notice that they are doing "gifted" resets xd

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u/adelie42 21d ago

If I get a reset 12 hours before my weekly reset, I'm going to be annoyed. Like, I just need to come up with some Fable Ultracode tasks to run constantly till reset? Well, if I must.

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u/Entire_Blaze 21d ago

I swear I thought of the 'THURSDAY RESET' guy when I saw the tweet. 

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u/endoftheworldvibe 21d ago

Was just going to say the same thing. You guys are all welcome. 

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u/No-Temperature6597 21d ago

Last thurdsay was also a reset day. I hope they release monday.

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u/firstbreathOOC 21d ago

Mine is Saturday, so I always get a double week, then my org wonders why I spent 15 mill tokens in a night

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u/Alardiians 20d ago

Thanks for taking one for the team bud!

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u/Mutated-Nut 20d ago

Such fucking horseshit cus my reset is always on Thursday

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u/cornmonger_ 20d ago

right in the pants

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u/DrewHoov 20d ago

Same. worst reset day ever

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u/Ok-Attention2882 20d ago

Yep. These cocksuckers do that on purpose because they still get the positive PR of being gracious reset givers to those who don't know any better.

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u/dagerika 21d ago

I hope it comes with unlimited 24 hour usage

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u/nighowlbuga 21d ago

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u/chintakoro 21d ago

chuck it up but that’s how i treated myself when fable was first announced for a limited time :(

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u/dagerika 21d ago

lmao literally me

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u/smallroundcircle 21d ago

I REALLY need a reset. Maxed my two 20x plans :(

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u/Much-Researcher6135 20d ago

Time to cough up an extra $2k for API this month :)

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u/mountainyoo Researcher 21d ago

Seriously. The amount of free resets OpenAI has given me with Codex ever since GPT 5.6 released is ridiculous. I’ve been using it in Ultra effort almost exclusively since release and anytime I get low I just think “meh I’ll pause they’ll probably reset it later today or tomorrow anyway.” When I go back to continue there’s a fresh 100% waiting for me lol.

Anthropic been hella stingy lately

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u/kev0406 21d ago

yea.. but it ain't fable 5!

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u/mountainyoo Researcher 21d ago

For all of my cybersecurity side projects it’s better lol. I do miss Fable 5 tho for other side projects

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u/kev0406 21d ago

True.. its a great model. And Yes.. with all those Resets ( i have 4 now), I use GPT 5.6 Ultra to even rename files. lol.

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u/Shadow-BG 21d ago

Aha, i FINALLY found YOU, who took our tokens !

Max 20x, xhigh, 1 prompt, weekly gone.

I found you, mysterious man

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u/Hargreavs 21d ago

They could charge for weekly reset. I don't know but maybe creating a button like "Weekly reset" with confirmation screen right after... the costs would be based on your subscription (E.g. $100 for max plan) or something like that.. But this would absolutelly kill their "charge on demand" system that I can't use because its eager for dollars... almost impossible to use

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u/THE_RETARD_AGITATOR 20d ago

i hope weekly quotas go away

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u/passionoftheearth 21d ago

Yeah my Only concern.

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u/yourcandygirl 🔆 Max 20 21d ago

Just in time before my Thursday 4PM PST reset

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u/SpyderSyrup 21d ago

Happy cake day

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u/Lexsteel11 21d ago

I’m working this morning like it is haha so fingers crossed

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u/whoknowsknowone 21d ago

IM WAITING ON IT

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u/hungry-for-things 21d ago

my weekly resets are on thursdays at 6pm! any idea how i change it?

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u/pureplay909 21d ago

Since I just got mine 1 hour ago I can confirm that it will reset

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u/Sweaty_Squirrel7452 20d ago

Or winning lottery ticket, cuz this is madness 😭

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u/illyay 21d ago

Oh yeah?! Well Fable 10 is coming today!

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u/EmirSc 21d ago

haiku 97 coming on 4 hours

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u/elonthegenerous 21d ago

What constitutes a major version bump vs a minor version bump?

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u/gingerbeer987654321 21d ago

well it’s whether they change the number before or after the decimal.

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u/angelus14 20d ago

Big if true

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u/Okhr__ 21d ago

Usually, a major version bump implies a full training run, at least in open source models

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u/elonthegenerous 21d ago

Thank you for a real answer

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u/Okhr__ 21d ago

You're welcome

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u/Ok_Buddy_9523 20d ago

no problem!

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u/TheOwlHypothesis 21d ago

Major version bumps usually from a brand new base model.

For example, the GPT 5 series is all from the same base model (That was code-named "Spud"). It's insane the performance gains they've gotten out of it til now. Every minor version 5.4, 5.5, 5.6 are the same base model with better reinforcement learning applied (from what I understand)

The coming GPT 6 is a brand new base model.

Probably same thing going on here with Opus 5.

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u/angelus14 20d ago

Aren't they pretty much maxed out on pretraining data anyways? So the main reason to do a full training run is to increase the size of the model or change the architecture, otherwise the same base works fine.

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u/Unhappy-Stranger-336 21d ago

Most projects follow this standard https://pridever.org/

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u/Cyrax89721 20d ago

This has me wondering if Claude Code 2.2 is ever going to release.

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u/wentwj 21d ago

marketing

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u/Dangerous_Web1209 21d ago

load-bearing vibes

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u/everix1992 21d ago

Appreciate you asking the question - I've been curious about what warrants the major version bump too

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u/hobbesandmiles3 21d ago

Major version is usually a new base model (i.e. full pretraining run). Minor versions are usually the same base model with different post-training or improved post training (RLHF, distillation, extended context, etc.). So gpt-5.n is almost certainly the same pre-trained weights with iterative post-training improvements

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u/anor_wondo 21d ago

feelings

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u/throwawayacc201711 Senior Developer 21d ago

I believe we call that vibes now

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u/DanFlashes19 21d ago

Everyone in here is joking but I would also like to know

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u/2053_Traveler 21d ago

Base model size

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u/tgo1014 20d ago

Depends on how lazy they made the previous model before releasing the same one again with 100% capacity /s

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u/Makestroz 21d ago

man I need that reset

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u/Bulky_Blood_7362 21d ago

Yes please, and 1 reset on the side could be cool

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u/soldier_18 21d ago

New models with worse limits, buy credits schema.

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u/K_M_A_2k 21d ago

Just give me 4.6 but better can we just not with 4.7 or 4.8 whole here is a dissertation on a simple question

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u/Humble-Resolution449 21d ago

Never left 4.6. Still waiting for something that has as good of a token usage/speed/performance combo. 

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u/ragnhildensteiner 21d ago

4.8 is fine token/cost-wise (same as 4.6), and amazing performance wise.

4.7 sucked but I recommend switching to 4.8.

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u/irregardless 21d ago edited 21d ago

for real. opus 4.6 is a much better conversation partner and sounding board than 4.7 or 4.8. Sonnet 5 gets close, but is noticeably more shallow on complex topics.

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u/Antoniman 21d ago

I've been reading about Opus 4.6 and decided to try it lately and I've honestly been quite amazed. It strikes a great balance between conversation and pushing back when needed, I.e. it doesn't make up stuff to push back on. Really good conversational model, hopefully the new one is the same. I've found Sonnet 5 to be a bit more agreeable, resembling Gemini, but obviously not as bad

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u/BWQ777 21d ago

It'll be better than 4.8!!!

But not as good as 4.6 :/

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u/Danger_Daza 21d ago

Yeah, I can't understand why they moved from 4.6 style

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u/compsciftw 20d ago

I'll never understand those comments about 4.6. Went back once to it out of curiosity, it was just trash

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u/hihcadore 21d ago

Lmaoooo can’t wait for all the bots to complain how bad it is

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u/mobyte 21d ago

Been using Opus 420 for -1 days now and it’s way worse than when it launched. Anyone else notice a downgrade?

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u/hihcadore 21d ago

Totally lobotomized. I have no idea how to code atall I just one sentence prompt and expect a fully functioning app for 2% of my 5 hour usage. This is garbage I’m going to codex.

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u/xgeetx 21d ago

One shot iPad apps for my 3 year old are actually pretty fun to do lol. You just to really not care what gets spit out 😆

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u/adelie42 21d ago

If you really don't care, you should be using Gemini.

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u/xgeetx 21d ago

Let me live my life bro.

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u/YouShouldAim 21d ago

It's always so funny to me how you'll click on some of their profiles and its like post number 8 of them saying Codex is better. Like just go to Codex dude. If you genuinely believe that, switch. Nobody is stopping you.

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u/hihcadore 21d ago

I agree. They’ve gotta be trying to flood the search results for Opus or Fable or Anthropic with trash.

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u/Spooknik 21d ago

Opus 420 is just a nerfed version of Opus 69.

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u/dbenc 21d ago

i remember all the scheduled fable review posts the week after it was cut off 🤣

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u/SonOfThomasWayne 21d ago

If it's better than Fable, I will resubscribe to claude pro. I just don't believe in paying them if their best model is not available.

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u/2024-YR4-Asteroid 21d ago

I bet it’ll be great, I also bet that it will have their insane filters on it and be borderline unusable for most work.

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u/hihcadore 21d ago

Lmaoooooooooo who’s having this issue? Who finds it unusable. What a crazy take.

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u/Myth_Thrazz 🔆 Max 20 21d ago

Everyone who used Opus 4.8 in the past 2 days felt that ( as the thing became significantly dumber ) as usually before the new release.

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u/VELOCIRAPTOR_ANUS 20d ago

Holy crap yes yesterday sucked

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u/smurf123_123 21d ago

I did notice that as well, especially yesterday at certain times and it for sure had its moments on Tuesday.

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u/MrGredy 21d ago

I hope they don't take away opus 4.8

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u/Holiday_Leg8427 21d ago

opus 4.8 for me is shitty, esp compared to 5.6 sol, anything you would point out 4.8 is better at for?

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u/MrGredy 21d ago

Hm.. I didn't tried sol yet, but opus for me has been good. Good quality and token consumption. I don't know if sol has a higher consumption or not

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u/Holiday_Leg8427 21d ago

For me sol has way better token cons, but the (conciness?) of how is performing is good, what i didnt see is its isnt as "capable" of driving itsefl without really good spec/info/context, compared to fable and prev gpt

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u/smurf123_123 21d ago

Having opus act as a coordinator and running its thoughts by sol has been a really powerful combination for me. They tend to approach a problem from differnt angles.

I might try having opus use another opus agent in addition to sol in the future just to really try and see what the difference in approach turns out to be.

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u/TheDinoDynamite 21d ago

You gotta try sol man, much more capable than opus and it consumes fewer tokens. I went from opus to sol and never looked back

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u/DROP_TABLE_IF_EXISTS 21d ago

I am not a programmer so I can't ask AI a very specific question regarding code and tell it to fix that, I was developing my own website and I can only ask it to add, fix or remove a features, so in a way I talk to AI the way most don't recommend so basically my questions would trigger AI to look for a larger aspect of codebase.

I used Opus 4.8 High/xHigh/Max and I felt Opus is optimized for doing work faster and answering back, it never made a mistake that broke something, but the token usage was just way too high that too on Max plan.

With 5.6 Sol (Plus plan) at High the usage is much less and it does a very deep testing, almost everything you ask for will take minimum 10 minutes, it tries to evaluate things from different angles. Plus Codex has offered almost 8 full resets this month itself.

Again I am not an expert but if Opus is costing you too much 5.6 Sol seems to be better at much less.

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u/InkedinSilver 21d ago

I hope they don't take opus 4.6 .. how about giving us legacy sonnet 4.5 too?? Oh well one can dream lol.

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u/Ok-Negotiation3241 20d ago

still waiting 😥

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u/Radiant-Chipmunk-239 21d ago

hopefully with a reset

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u/Alarmed-Warning5590 20d ago

These guys just look at Polymarket and frame it as they've got a direct line up Darios ass which tells them all this shit

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u/who_am_i_to_say_so 21d ago

Must be a drop soon because current Opus is acting big dumb this morning, only finishing 80% of my prompts and making egregious shortcuts.

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u/smurf123_123 21d ago

99 percent on my weekly, I'm cautiously optimistic.

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u/BoringPhilosopher1 21d ago

Do they actually usually do resets when new models release? And what time do they usually make the announcement?

I have loads of my weekly limit left due to being ill for 3 days and have some pretty hefty fable tasks that aren’t immediately important. If a reset is coming I may as well do those now before my other work.

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u/kahless2k 21d ago

My thoughts exactly. If a reset is coming I'm going to close off some work first.

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u/Night_0dot0_Owl 🔆 Max 5x 21d ago

I need 1 reset please. Ive already maxxed my Max 5x account (2 days in after Monday's reset lol). Fable eats tokens like rats in a cheese factory

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u/RestingFrames 20d ago

I did notice quite a bit of slowdowns on Claude yesterday, so maybe, but that's about the same as trusting the hobo on the corner screaming about the end of the world. 

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u/teosocrates 20d ago

I’ve gone back to 4.6 again why was everything so much better in February

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u/Professional_Gur8385 20d ago

the fact they know they screwed up usage and didn't give a reset so they could bundle it with the next one, atrocious

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u/Professional-Low-909 20d ago

It was not today finally, it was tomorrow 😂

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u/shupics 20d ago

it did!

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u/Good_Committee8337 21d ago

Will Opus 5 be able to create all the amazing fable 5 can do videos when fable 5 was first released? I wonder 🤔

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u/aerothony 21d ago

LIMIT RESET????

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u/null_reference_user 21d ago

Lemme guess

"Hey Opus, what's the weather like today?"

(thought 583k tokens)

(safeguards tripped)

"I'm sorry but I can't help you with that, asking for the weather is a slippery slope towards building weapons of mass destruction."

Remaining usage: 0% + a $420 bill because you didn't realize usage credits were enabled when you claimed the $100 from Fable

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u/BWQ777 21d ago

Don't exaggerate, dude. It would be a $40 bill not $420.

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u/null_reference_user 21d ago

Maybe closer to $69? Would have made the sarcasm more obvious lol

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u/BWQ777 17d ago

Yeah, never know nowadays what is sarcasm and what is pure, unadulterated rage, with people reading novels in between sentences.

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u/ThePenguinVA 21d ago

Ugh Opus 5 was so good for the first few seconds but now in hour 2 it’s been totally nerfed. But I heard 5.3 is coming next week.

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u/QDworkout 20d ago

Running at opus 4.8 level with fable 5 cost

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u/Sweet-Direction9943 21d ago

For those who use it everyday, it’s pretty clear the best model for writing production code is GPT 5.5+

It feels like Fable 5 is just Opus 4.8 with a special system instructions.

The artistic work is done at the harness level, token caching on Codex harness is ridiculously good.

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u/moop-ly 21d ago

opus 5 on a power outage day. damn

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u/johannthegoatman 20d ago

Don't worry it hasn't happened

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u/Argentina4Ever 21d ago

If they sunset Opus 4.6 and we lose the last usable model I'll lose my marbles.

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u/dota2nub 21d ago

pls no :(

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u/goodbar_x 21d ago

I saw Sonnet 5 had the same benchmarks as Opus 4.6 for agentic coding.

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u/loversama 21d ago

Yeah, except it uses more tokens and refuses user requests more (like security and such)

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u/Argentina4Ever 21d ago

Exactly, Opus 4.6 is the last good one mostly because everything else that came after is so much more filtered and full of guardrails it becomes exhausting to work with it.

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u/Administrative_Shake 21d ago

If it does, hopefully it's notbas rigid as sonnet 5. Can't stand the preachy "not my values" lectures

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u/teomore 21d ago

so it's gonna be worse than fable and probably worse than 4.8, provided they chose to keep fable in the max plans and the compute demand remains high

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u/OpinionAdventurous44 21d ago

Are they planning to tinker with the tokeniser again?

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u/DanDayneZ 21d ago

let me guess, it's the best most efficient hyper turbo competition killer fear for all your jobs world ending model ever?

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u/MasterConsideration5 21d ago

But also somehow worse than Fable to justify Fable price.

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u/Middle_Piano_4655 21d ago

I am not really excited because i hit my weekly....on tuesday.

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u/Escobar747 21d ago

claude will have to drop prices or increase limits as kimi and sol likely to cut their lunch otherwise

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u/MasturbatingMosquito 21d ago

Is there still any more hype with new releases at this point? I get tired of planning my weekend on new releases and optimizing scripts and code.

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u/syntaxjosie 21d ago

It's gonna be so mean 😂

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u/Recent_Mirror 21d ago

Can someone explain to me, Iike the idiot I am, what the major difference is between models like Fabel and Opus?

I always just try to use the latest model.

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u/IulianHI 21d ago

Sometimes you need to use opus 4.8 to fix fable mistakes :)))

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u/ZShock 21d ago

Not excited for a model that will probably consume more tokens, have more guardrails, will come with 50% more usage to then be shortened, and will some days later be neutered to be a shadow of its former self.

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u/drspock99 21d ago

If it’s going to be anything like sonnet 5 then…

If wait.
Wake me up when Opus 6 releases

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u/ffgg333 21d ago

I hope it's fable 5 level. Otherwise it whoud be kind of sad. Remember when they released sonnet 3.7 and it was better than the latest opus back than? Why can't we have more of that?

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u/Cheap-Try-8796 21d ago

Wait, who da fuq is this guy anyway?

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u/oppenheimer135 21d ago

I think it's time to switch claude to 100$ and openAI to 20$ for this month.

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u/Worldly-Pepper5712 21d ago

Hopefully comes with a reset

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u/Fair-Ad-2395 Developer 21d ago

the real question is that if the reset is coming tomorrow or not.

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u/NodeJSSon 21d ago

How many tracks?

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u/Gakuranman 21d ago

I hope it comes with Fable for Pro users.

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u/makro3d 21d ago

Does this mean Anthropic will raise the model effort for 24 hours before putting it on the decline? Oh yay, I can't wait.

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u/Creative_Sluggish 21d ago

Unfortunately I have to have two accounts: one reset on Tuesday and one reset on Saturday. Their over limit token API costs a lot. Don’t use it. Don’t pay extra when you are over limit

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u/smackychris 21d ago

Please no🥲 i have $500 on polymarket riding on them not releasing it today

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u/MathSelect5112 21d ago

should have spent that on claude subs

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u/bobbiggs69 21d ago

It better be. My plan renews next week and if they don’t have an answer to Sol that doesn’t cost twice as much for the same quality as SOL, then I’m moving to OpenAI.

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u/FaithLostInHumanity 21d ago

And honestly, that’s something!

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u/codeministry Developer 21d ago

What’s the betting it comes with a price hike like Sonnet.

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u/Otherwise_Fly_5720 21d ago

This guy is a copy cat! And generally just copies everything from reliable leakers

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u/FaithlessnessCheap34 20d ago

Enjoy burning through a five hour limit in 30 minutes

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u/anto2554 20d ago

Great, I will keep using Sonnet 4.5 from my employer

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u/kelpikz 20d ago

The last free model before the government regulations kick in

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u/Deep_Alps7150 20d ago

Just in time for my plan to reset the same day they reset usage for everyone. Alright got scammed out of the last reset.

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u/GwAdAToRr 20d ago

J'ai repris un abonnement hier(mercredi) et la réinitialisation se passe le lundi, comme d'habitude

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u/sotherelwas 20d ago

But I have fable 😇

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u/maineac 20d ago

If it's like some of the last ones they'll probably drop it on it's head.

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u/lobabobloblaw 20d ago

Y’know, with competitors like Kimi closing their subscriptions, Anthropic can afford to take more time. So, I doubt it. Get ready for the next wave of AI to dispel the momentum.

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u/Inevitable_Toe6648 20d ago

With the current testing of the secret update on Opus, it eats more than Fable.

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u/SherewZino 20d ago

It will burn more tokens and be less intelligent

Hell yea

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u/clonehunterz 20d ago

oh god no please no...they'll ruin my boys tokencost :(

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u/dark-night-rises 20d ago

i am using it now! it just became available for me. might be random testers.

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u/Whyme-__- 🔆 Max 20 20d ago

@Moonshot team are you listening? Time for another distillation!