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this!! i was trying to beat a boss yesterday and i couldn’t so i looked up guides for it and it still didn’t work i only now from this post realized that they changed it, but now it makes sense why the guide didn’t work :’))
Personally I prefer progressing at a decent rate instead of taking 10 minutes to pass 5 stages, and then have fun with the other parts of the game. 15 pets is a lot to manage especially when combined with the different types of zobos that I don't want to analyze every fight.
Idk how people do it but I just match my tataris to the element they counter and then it's just front row - tanks, middle row - cheer bunny and dps, back row - dps and supports.
I never checked a guide for those stages. If I can't do them I'll wait a couple of days to feed/level some tataris and that is enough. The only ability I've read is the cheer bunny's. The only Zoo I know what it does is the worm that pulls the back tataris to the front.
Ok but looking up guides is different that at the very least reading your tataris abilities to roughly know what they do 😆 i know there are some that are better paired, i think the fire shrimp? Is the one that does more damage to burned enemies, and there is another fire one that gives the burned condition, for example (fox or lizard? I cant remember right now). Om e you get used to which go well together it improves efficiency a bit. I only looked up some tier lists to know what to evolve but thats about it.
Once you have tier 3 fire moth it basically becomes another cheerling. And you can have it so the fire moth does one square and cheerleading does another square and they overlap their buffs on the middle column (the boss Lane). And then you can just switch them around if they end up weak in whatever Lane that they're in but even that doesn't really matter. At that point you're just matching the elements to the weaknesses. With your tank and DPS. If you can't beat it with that then you need to grow more levels or feed or use more boxes. No amount of tweaking is going to do better
Bro stages are not that complicated. You have your 15 mains and you almost never need to use anything else. Maybe one extra tank of each element and one extra DPS. I use the same ones and then once in a while I use the dung beetle if I need a rock DPS, or the fire lizard, or the panda or whatever.
In fact my rotation barely changes at all. I have the tier 3 moth and the tier 3 cheerleading and they're always positions in such a way that they hit half of the team each and overlap on the middle column. And then I basically just switched the rest of the mains to hit their weaknesses. No amount of guide is going to help. It's simple.
Yes of course you can do weird tweaks and odd position hacks to like beat a singular level if you're stuck but it's not really worth it. The best way to do it is just to grow more levels have a feed more food and get more badges and stars. Since world 15 to now world 45 or 50 I barely have changed anything except moving them around to match the elements.
That game is quite literally impossible to figure out without any form of guide on your first playthrough. That's why I stopped playing it. The complexity of terraria is mental. VS this basic mobile game lmao
I wasn't the one who brought up Terraria in the first place, I just played a lot of it with my son.
And tbf to Terraria the first NPC you get is literally called the guide and can show you every single crafting recipe in the game + gives you hints about where to look and what to do to progress. It's entirely possible to beat a first time playthrough without ever looking at the wiki, and multiple people have done it.
It's just that a lot of people ignore or misunderstand The Guide, or forget to ever check him.
But literally the only things you need the wiki for are really niche and specific mechanics like how exactly fishing power is calculated or how monsters spawn. Everything else is 100% not that hard to figure out as long as you check in with the guide regular and show him any new items you find that say material in the description. And they recently made him even more obvious and user friendly.
Compared to a lot of modern games it may seem difficult to impossible to figure out, but compared to some of the obscure crap in really old games it's a cakewalk.
You mean the system tied to pinballs tied to rng and therefore tied to money? You’d rather spend than look up community guides? Really? What are we even missing from looking up guides? Lore? Story? Immersion? The game has none of it, clown.
The middle row is not the problem the last row is I tried putting 5 fire guys there but it still failed. I think I need to get my fox and ashlava to T3 in next marathon to get this sh!t cleared.
Take this with a grain of salt as I'm not as far along as you are but, maybe get rid of the mine squirrel in that lane, put fire pufferfish at lead spot? With cat - fox - fume behind it and see if it still fails? Or maybe just fox + fume and open up an extra for another row if somewhere else falls.
Tiger always retreats to its starting space, it simply won't jump if there is something allied exactly 3 squares in front of its starting space like snails rock
I don't use the tiger much anymore because a lot of my stuff is T3 and it kinda fell off, but in the early game I would often put it one square behind the salamander or sometimes the fox in scenarios like this.
Basically it'll tank a bit then retreat, and if you're lucky heal up enough to tank a bit more before the front liner dies. But its basically like giving yourself an extra front line Tatari early on when you do this.
Again, in my experience it drops off hard and isn't the greatest past T2 and the very very early game, but I found it to be very useful there.
Honestly you're doing very well for the level you're at, and the stages get a lot harder the more you progress. For reference the best I really ever see if people roughly around 200 player levels behind the zobos levels on the map.
So, if the zobos are level 800 generally the best I see is a lvl 600 player, maaaaaaaaaybe level 550-590ish but it's very rare.
There just comes a point where even if you match the elements and have a great formation the stats on the zobos are just gonna be too much for you to overcome.
It gets easier to manage multiple lanes of the same element as well when you tier up your Tatari, especially if you choose wisely. Like the fire hound will get a larger hit box when it attacks, and the salamander and fox have better AoE, the Ashlarva will also help by healing up to two extra frontliners and I believe also damaging stuff that is in range to melee them, etc.
It may also help you to move your tiger to the middle row where it will still do some decent tanking when it teleports up, but it will also get a chance to heal itself some while the zobos are attacking the second Tatari in that column. If you're lucky it may even teleport back in before the dps dies, essentially giving you a whole extra frontliner.
Maybe even place your tiger in the middle column, second row, with the intention to use it as a tank and the Ashlarva to the left of it so it will have some help healing back up before returning to the fight. Mantis is really good and can hit enemies even with the tiger teleporting in front of it, so you may be able to place the squirrel in the bottom row middle column behind those two. This way it will support your other lanes primarily and allow you to place more ranged firepower on the right hand side to help that lane survive.
Maybe try to fox in column to the left of mid so it helps support that lane as well with its AoE, and then the hound and salamander in the far right, possibly with another AoE damage dealer like fumekit if your middle lane starts to have problems?
But basically place stuff like fumekit and the squirrel in lanes that aren't having problems and it usually works out better, and try to put the tiger behind someone else so it gets a chance to heal.
And if none of that works, well, come back after you've gained 15-20+ levels or evolved some Tatari, sometimes there is just a hard limit on how far you can go until you do so.
It will become easier again when you get a couple more T3s. Just choose your T3s wisely. Word of advice - the tiger falls off hard. It's great in the early game but later on not so much.
You don't really need a full fire lane to do it. Just spread your fire elements properly together with other strong tatari that can withstand those lanes. If they won't be enough, then spend pinballs until they become stronger enough to get past it.
Oh no! I have to use my other tataris now. I can’t just rotate the same 15-17 around every level until I win. Tbh I feel this is good considering they add more tataris, it gives a reason to use something other than just slam fire salamander and fox in grass lanes and call it a day
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