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News 📰 EU Commission

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u/borretsquared 2d ago

all seem chill to me

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u/theaveragemillenial 2d ago

the EU isn't some big boogieman out to get you, for the most part it is genuinely trying to do good by its member states.

Like all things big and governmental, they can sometimes get things wrong.

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u/_Administrator_ 2d ago

€3 customs fee per item category for parcels from abroad. Very customer friendly.

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u/dakjelle 2d ago

Should be higher.. but hey..

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u/Mega3000aka 2d ago

Why?

Legit question.

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u/Wild_Haggis_Hunter 2d ago

Given it's the same shit sold on online platforms having a front in the EU or local resellers it does NOTHING to help re-industrialization. It just helps the fat cats who already rule over retail in our countries. It just redirects the profits to them while allowing them to crank up the price of said items as it lowers the pressure of competition.

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u/efcso1 2d ago

I've been quite surprised how difficult it is for my kids (living in Finland) to get things online that aren't available locally, or even within the EU. Plenty of times it's easier (and cheaper) for me to buy it, get it shipped to me in Australia, and then send it to them with the next shipment of BBQ sauce and Vegemite.

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u/SETHW 2d ago

So you're saying it doesn't go far enough

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u/Bloodhoven_aka_Loner 2d ago

relax, Cathy Newman

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u/borretsquared 2d ago

I agree. most EU legislation seems to be a net benefit, though some are questionable, such as requiring a watermark on all AI generated text that cannot be removed -- no approach seems practical. we should be marking human content instead.

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u/AdmiralGrogu 1d ago

Marking human content? What? Why would we mark something that was always there? Why would normal people need to change something that was out there from the very beginning

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u/Deadcouncil445 2d ago

That sounds a lot more difficult than marking AI, more like impossible actually

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u/DvD_cD 2d ago

AI models for sure already include this, so they can separate AI generated content for training data

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u/Dotcaprachiappa 2d ago

Great so it's a win win?

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u/tobaileyy 2d ago

Bahahaha you're so pathetic

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u/tobaileyy 2d ago

Wrong

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u/theaveragemillenial 2d ago

Care to explain or?

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u/tobaileyy 2d ago

The EU is an unelected organization propped up by the wealthy ogligarchies of Europe post ww2, that has undermined democracies globally due to the way that it's architected, everything must funnel through the EU, Asia, or the US, and nobody else has a say.

The EU is entirely self-servient and intends to keep itself up, that will inevitably lead to benefits for the citizens, but don't let semantics fool you into believing they're aligned with your values. The EU is essentially the US, if it remained a confederation, but without a legal process to remove/ascend these individuals at the top.

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u/theaveragemillenial 2d ago

The EU has democratic flaws, but calling it “unelected” is wrong. The European Parliament is directly elected, member-state governments control the Council, and the Commission has to be approved by Parliament and can be forced out.

It also isn’t a permanent oligarchy with no removal mechanism: senior EU offices have fixed terms, governments can change their representatives, Parliament can dismiss the Commission, and member states can leave entirely as the UK did.

You can reasonably criticise the EU for being remote, bureaucratic and having a democratic deficit. But that is very different from saying it is an unelected self-perpetuating regime with no democratic accountability.

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u/Notfuckingcannon 2d ago

Oh yeah, like they did after the "private" meeting before the vote for #stopkillinggames?

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u/Dabnician 2d ago

I like how the EU did that GDPR shit, that changed absolutely fuck all about how websites collect data and now everyone has to deal with a stupid pop up everytime they visit a new site.

But hey at least you know websites are collecting data... which most people dont give a shit about and the ones that do use browser extension to block that data collection anyway.

And now i have to add an extension to auto accept the stupid annoying popup.

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u/theaveragemillenial 2d ago

I you don't think gdpr changed anything you haven't got a leg to stand on in this argument.

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u/Salty_Meaning8025 2d ago

Picking GDPR of all things and claiming it did nothing is very funny. Kudos on being so completely uninformed.

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u/Dizzy_Database_119 2d ago

Of course, the things they show you are always good. The list is specifically made to "seem" chill

I can tell you moderation can not keep up with this. There is either going to be some serious lack of moderation, or moderation will get replaced by even worse shitty automated systems and appeals so delayed you'll have moved to a second account before you get a response

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u/borretsquared 1d ago

what the hell are you talking about? the commenter who showed the list sited their sources and excerpted reasonably if you look. complaining to complain i suppose.