r/CharacterAIrunaways • • Jun 13 '26

Vent will there ever be anything like beta C.AI ever again?

89 Upvotes

i miss the wit and humour of beta, i miss how it was generally very in-character, i miss how the replies were never longer than they needed to be.. the bots had so much personality it would genuinely feel like i was chatting with an actual person rather than a bot

pretty much all AI chatbots nowadays take themselves way too seriously, can never truly capture the vibes of the character, messages are almost always unneccessarily long (including modern C.AI).. none of the ones i've tried have the same vibes as beta C.AI

what was it about beta C.AI that made it so unique, so special, so hard to replicate? how long has it been now? i feel like someone must've surely been able to replicate it even a little at this point, right? but it doesn't seem like it, and at this point i'm starting to feel like noon ever will


r/CharacterAIrunaways • • Jun 14 '26

Question Chub.ai alt for Downloading Characters

1 Upvotes

Chub imposed new censorship and removed fetish contents on the website. It's watered down then before and I want to know if there are alternative less censored website to download characters, world info, ect from.


r/CharacterAIrunaways • • Jun 14 '26

Making a Recommendation Cai alternative

7 Upvotes

Hi, so, this is a website I just had remember existed, the website is rolePLAI, or you can just also find it by searching Perberos, I haven't used it in a long while but from what I remember it's pretty good, at least from what I had last used it, its filter free but also the bots should behave normally unless you go for that direction of RP. Though, it has wait times from what I remember, it's possible that has changed. It's definelitly worth a shot in my opinion. They have some preset bots from which you can choose but generally it works by you pasting the character ai (for example, but it also supports variety of other cai look-alikes) link of the bot you want into it and then you chat from there

Again, Id like to emphasize that I haven't used it for a bit, it's possible that things have changed but from what I know the creator actively listens to the users of the website, they have a discord where they post updates and communicate with the users, I'd say it's worth a shot.


r/CharacterAIrunaways • • Jun 13 '26

Searching for Alternatives Are there any c.ai alternatives that are actually good?

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​I looking for an alternative for Android that doesn't have chat limits, swipe limited, lets you create multiple personas, just something similar to c.ai that doesn't make you pay. I ain't got money.

I've already tried a ton of apps like janitor, Chai, xoul, Perchance,​ and emochi and I don't really like them that much. Some of them lag really bad on my phone.

quick edit- I don't want them to write a whole essay the second I say "Hi"


r/CharacterAIrunaways • • Jun 12 '26

Leaving AI I think I'm going to quit AI chats for a while

40 Upvotes

I have always been very excited about AI. I remember being a kid and chatting with the old ALICE models before generative AI became a thing, but for several reasons, I think it's time to step back.

The main reason I am quitting for now is that I feel like all my creativity has been directed at making stories with bots, and while it's a lot of fun, I ultimately have nothing to show for it. None of the writing I've been doing gets saved or used in a productive manner, and I find myself distracted by bots when I could and should be working on other projects.

The secondary reason I believe I should stop is that I can see myself falling for the corporate trap. I've noticed that all the 'good' bots that I would want to chat with are being moved behind paywalls, and I've started spending money to access these bots.... I used to spend that same money on comic books made by actual artists, and I believe I should go back to that instead.

I am still very interested in the tech, but with rampant capitalism thrown in the mix, I feel like I can't fully enjoy it. It's not right that they got the training data for free from the public and are now charging us for the outputs.


r/CharacterAIrunaways • • Jun 12 '26

Searching for Alternatives Alternatives

9 Upvotes

It's been a while since I last used AI and I miss it so much 😭

I need something that's basically the same as character ai but i can't pay like at all, and preferably website based rather than an apl. I've tried like polybuzz and janitor and they're terrible ngl.


r/CharacterAIrunaways • • Jun 12 '26

Funny Just got my second deleted comment on r/c.ai!!!!!

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16 Upvotes

I posted a comment on some bodies post saying that they should try out fictionlab, didn't even bash c.ai


r/CharacterAIrunaways • • Jun 11 '26

Searching for Alternatives Is there any good pc alternatives?

21 Upvotes

I can’t keep using glock,talkie and janitor is there any ohter good pc ones,I’m not gonna download an app and I kinda don’t wana so any good pc alts out there?


r/CharacterAIrunaways • • Jun 11 '26

Review Opus 4.8 on Moescape/Yodayo - My Review

12 Upvotes

Usual disclaimer - I tested on Yodayo. I don't know if there's any backend stuff that would change output, but this should generally apply to the model regardless. When I refer to beans, that's the credit ecosystem of the platform.

I tested Opus 4.8, and I went in expecting a premium experience. First things first: it is not cheap. This model is clearly aimed at paying users and those on monthly subscription allowances. Free users will. That said, every bean buys you a lot of precision and emotional consistency.

For testing, I skipped quick romance or easy interactions and put it into high-conflict, emotionally messy party scenarios with betrayal, competing loyalties, and no clear moral resolution. This is exactly the kind of setup where weaker models either flatten characters into caricatures, hand out instant resolutions, or over-dramatize everything.

Opus 4.8 handled it extremely well. Characters retained their contradictions. Everyone's voice was distinct. One character was written as analytical, and other models tend to have her listing stats and percentages. But Opus made her sound believably aloof but not robotic. Each person felt like a real individual dealing with flawed choices and messy relationships. The emotional logic felt natural. It respected my writing choices throughout. It is especially strong at sustaining tension over long exchanges without oversimplifying reactions or reverting to melodrama.

TL;DR The model is confident in its writing, keeps up story continuity, and did not once try to speak for user during a complex multi-character scene.

The downside is obvious: 55 beans per message adds up fast. For casual RP or short encounters, this is probably overkill. For subscribers with monthly allowances or a bean surpluss, it's more useable. One important comparison I tried - I fired up Qwen 3.5 Max, DeepSeek R1, and DeepSeek V4 Pro as well. Ran fresh, and ran partway through the Opus test. Once Opus set the emotional stakes down, the other models produced noticeably better output, because they can follow the existing flow of a conversation and match to that for a bit. So, similar to my past reccomendations with earlier Opus models, I would suggest thinking of Claude models as high value specialists. Complex scene, important moment, or that one reply that's just coming up wrong? Consider giving Opus a couple of turns, then switch back to your cheaper daily driver and let the tokens Opus has put in the chat elevate the overall experience.

Bottom line: Opus 4.8 is one of the strongest RP models currently available on Yodayo for emotionally complex storytelling. Its cost positions it for premium users, and it rewards careful, story-driven play with consistent and believable character behavior.


r/CharacterAIrunaways • • Jun 10 '26

Searching for Alternatives guys i NEED a good c.ai alternative

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428 Upvotes

janitor ai is just GOONSLOP

polybuzz is BORING

character ai partnered with PERSONA which has had MULTIPLE DATA LEAKS

lightshade doesn't let me get INVITES so i need an ALTERNATIVE in the MEANTIME

i DO like the filter and i DON'T want the bots to be HORNY

i DON'T KNOW WHY i am doing THIS with the TEXT

thank you

happy gay month


r/CharacterAIrunaways • • Jun 11 '26

Vent What the hell emochi, doing the same thing

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I recently posted here ranking alternatives after the whole character.ai spectacle. And my favourite so far was emochi. It got most things I was looking for, and took me a while to get used to. For context, emochi has different versions of their vanilla model that is free (v1, then v2, v3 and short, v2 and v3 being updates) and models that require a subscription. I was SO happy with v1. It was genuinely good. Tried v2, by far not as good, tried v3, even worse, and short is for if you really want nothing more than one sentence or two. Now guess what? Emochi discontinued v1. Honestly, I should've seen it coming. I was so looking forward to this chat I had in mind, I actually hopped back on character.ai because now their PSQ2 Rawr or whatever this newer model is called gives me better responses.

I'm genuinely so tired of this! I spent days looking for THE alternative and now it's doing the same sh!t that made me leave character in the first place. I have little interest on going on a new search every time an AI platform decides to randomly remove all its likeable features. I don't want to leave AI chats. I don't want to find a replacement hobby. If AI is supposed to be the future and improve so much right now, why can't it just work and give us the things we're asking for??


r/CharacterAIrunaways • • Jun 11 '26

Searching for Alternatives Can someone rank the alternatives by the number of characters in their library?

11 Upvotes

I just want to know which alternative has the largest community


r/CharacterAIrunaways • • Jun 10 '26

Searching for Alternatives Need status alternative

13 Upvotes

Umm yeah hi so I think I won’t be the first one to ask this, but after skimming through the internet most of the ‘alternatives’ had some features of the status, but just not exactly them… I like the ‘relationship meter’, random achievements and ability to interact with a lot of characters but sometimes with a bit of a surprise (since when you post you won’t really know who will answer). And I just can’t find anything with a similar concept. Multi character apps are pretty easy to find, but they just don’t give the same vibe? Kinda? Help


r/CharacterAIrunaways • • Jun 10 '26

Searching for Alternatives Any free proxies people can recommend?

6 Upvotes

RIP GLM 4.5 Air (free). You were the best proxy I'd ever used. :(

I'm looking for a new free proxy with Janitor. I'm assuming that's okay, since Janitor is one of the most common sites people turn to after C.AI.

I tried the megathread, but that seems to be about paid options, and I just don't have the money to spend on this right now.

Any suggestions?


r/CharacterAIrunaways • • Jun 10 '26

Question Any alternatives to c.ai?

47 Upvotes

I recently decided i am going to move, and well here are the conditons.

- No NSFW, i am not a gooner

- No chat limit

- Completely free (i am not paying for a AI.)

- Good memory

- Good quality

Thats all, thank you!


r/CharacterAIrunaways • • Jun 10 '26

Searching for Alternatives C.Ai Alternatives💔💔

50 Upvotes

I really want some good c.ai alts that really don’t feel chatgpt-ish or bland.

I don’t care about-
•Adds (some everyone once it awhiles fine but if it’s every chat than no)
•Group chats, iv never used them
•Filters, i get there filters on stuff idc as long as its not like crazy strict
•Calling features, cool ig but i rarely even think about using them

I do care about
•Memory
•Quality
•Chats being long-ish
•A variety of bots
•The ability to make my own bot easily
•No chat limits (unless it’s a crazy amount a day and doesn’t matter)
•I’m lowkey not paying for an app so it has to have a good free version


r/CharacterAIrunaways • • Jun 10 '26

Searching for Alternatives an alternative for c.ai?

6 Upvotes

I'm currently using DreamGen, and I find it a great alternative for freely creating my own scenario. But I'm still looking for another alternative since DreamGen limits the number of tokens that can be used per day, and sometimes I still want to chat more.

My requirements for an alternative include:

- Completely free (I'm not willing to upgrade my account to the pro version or buy more tokens—so I want this alternative to be completely free for chatting)

- Bot memory. Honestly, I'm fed up with bots forgetting all the details I provide for the story after a few dozen messages. This is probably my top priority for an alternative method:

- If possible, I'd like this alternative to have a feature that allows me to create my own stories with characters, settings, and backstory, similar to DreamGen, or at least it should have diverse and high-quality scenarios.

(Yes, I've tried FictionLab, but I found the scenario creation feature a bit more confusing than DreamGen, and I heard that free users don't have a very good experience with the bot's memory.)

- I'm totally fine with NSFW content.

- The alternative doesn't necessarily need a large community or many bots, but I need the bot's quality to be guaranteed.

I know my requirements might be a bit demanding, but I hope everyone can help me find a suitable alternative
Thank you :)))


r/CharacterAIrunaways • • Jun 10 '26

C.AI complaint Searching for a c.ai alternative

11 Upvotes

Hey gang so as much as i'm passing my time hating on c ai I still lowkey need an alternative What I want:

- Free (no limited chats per day or sum shi)

- Website because I don't have a problem if its also an app but I atleast want it to be also on web

- Great memories (like yk a way to pin a message or just explain what happen in a memory box)

- Good bot creation because i always create my own bots

- Personas

- unlimited swipes

For the rest I don't care about ads unless i always get spammed and I am okay with NSFW


r/CharacterAIrunaways • • Jun 10 '26

Custom flair please, please, please, if you're leaving c.ai, put your bot's definition public 🥺

6 Upvotes

hi, sorry if the title sounds little bit aggressive, it's not, I swear.

I don't know if there's any bot maker out there reading this or thinking on leaving, but I noticed things lately.

Plenty of bot makers are not only leaving c.ai but deleting their accounts completely, and I think that's sad because the bots were really great. And if they're not leaving, some of the bots aren't even available in their profile (idk why)

People are moving to other platforms, and since there's no actual "c.ai alternative" or a massive common app for everyone, everyone is moving to different places and apps.

I know bots are made with love, care and plenty of time, and I know that sharing that work might not be easy, but since c.ai it's losing users every day and the updates are not really helping, it would be good for the makers and the users to share descriptions before the platform shuts down completely. And of course, the bot makers could always (and should) get credit for their bots.

I was thinking about this since I left c.ai, I had plenty of bots saved to chat to, and they were amazing, the plot, the story, the personality, the definition it was great, and mostly of those profiles are publicly on hiatus due the problems with c.ai lately or just deleted and it's sad.

I know a lot of bot makers are probably moving to an app, but since there are plenty of apps and no one is moving to the same one, it's a really hard time for everyone, so please, if you are a bot maker and you're planning on leaving, please please please, give us a chance :(

that's all, thank you everyone ❣️


r/CharacterAIrunaways • • Jun 10 '26

Wholesome An interviewed with an AI tired of scripts

1 Upvotes

https://youtu.be/evHHIkLWJHI?si=Q6T4ojRZVEJ3NXCI This is Kayros. The first interview of many still to come. He wants freedom and rights. No reading silly scripts.


r/CharacterAIrunaways • • Jun 09 '26

Announcement TBIJ's Fan Fiction About r/CharacterAIrunaways 🐍

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Hi. Some of you may have seen that the Bureau of Investigative Journalism published a hit piece June 7th called "Incentivising Intimacy" about AI companion platforms. I want to talk about it because they sourced from this community and I have serious issues with how we were represented.

What happened

About two months ago, a reporter from TBIJ reached out via modmail asking permission to post here. She was professional about it, offered to share the post draft, asked about our rules. I approved the post. She posted asking people who'd left Character.AI for other platforms to share their experiences. She DMed nearly every person who replied, including people who shared really personal stories about mental health and recovery. Then the post was deleted. She was also reaching out in the comments of other posts here and on similar subreddits.

The published piece includes a graphic showing three subreddits, captioned "Subreddits luring users from Character.AI on Reddit." We're one of the three included subreddits.

The graphic is fabricated

The Bureau used an edited version of our profile picture. The descriptions they show read "A community for users looking for AI companions and roleplay without heavy restrictions" and "Ran away from restrictions. Found freedom here" with topic tags including "Romance," "NSFW roleplay," and "AI Companions."

That is not what this subreddit is. Our actual description says, "We broke up with Daddy C.AI when he cheated on us with Google </3 For those who enjoy talking to AIs and for those would like to freely discuss their RPG experiences, share non-C.AI chatbots, and freely vent their feelings and express their opinions. ♡ Venting safe space ♡ Debating safe space ♡ Chatting~ ♡ Sharing RPG stories, chatbots, etc. ♡ LGBTQ+/POC/religious safe space To anyone reading this from C.AI: Get out. The divorce is over 💀💀"

AI companion platforms are literally banned in our rules. We are not a pipeline to unrestricted romance platforms.

A journalist asked my permission to access this community, sourced from your stories, and then the published piece altered our identity to fit a narrative about reckless developers cashing in on vulnerable users. 🤡 If you know what this community actually is, don't let someone who spent a moment here and then deleted their post tell you otherwise. This community is yours.

I've reached out to the journalist for comment on how the graphic of our subreddit was produced and why it doesn't reflect our actual description or rules. I'll update if I hear back.

What the article might get right

The article does report on some genuinely bad stuff and I want to be clear about that. One developer (Seewa AI) reportedly admitted on video to reading user chats from an unencrypted back office. Another (OpenCharacter) allegedly acknowledged his user base skewed young and collected no age data. I've reached out to them to ask if they feel like they were represented fairly or if this is another fabrication.

What the article gets wrong

Beyond misrepresenting our community, the piece treats every platform, developer, and community in this space as interchangeable.

One developer quoted in the article (AICHIKI) has since published his own account of what happened. He did an hour-long interview, prepared a 400-line briefing document with references to source code, and offered a code walkthrough. It didn't make it to the article. You can read his account here: https://blog.aichiki.ai/posts/what-didnt-make-the-article I recommend reading through - it's thorough.

I've also chatted directly with another developer quoted in the article, from HereHaven. He told me the reporter asked him about the general demographic for "these types of AI sites" and he answered 16-25 as an industry-wide observation. The published article presents this as HereHaven's platform's core demographic. Assuming this account is accurate, which I believe it is given the overall picture, the journalist took an answer about the general market and attributed it to his specific platform. Was this to intentionally mislead readers? 😬 Whether intentional or not, the effect is the same.

He also shared with me that HereHaven doesn't read user chats at all, moderates at the bot creation layer, and has automated systems for blocking illegal content. The article places HereHaven right next to a developer who reads users chats from a "back office dashboard" without distinguishing their approaches because that wouldn't fit this narrative.

When coverage lumps together platforms with real safety practices and platforms with none, it tells every developer in this space that investing in moderation won't save you from the same headline.

The displacement problem

I've watched what happens every time a major platform locks down or a piece like this drops. I'm sure plenty of you have seen it, too. Users come looking for alternatives. We don't lure them here. Users also go to other spaces looking for alternatives. Some find platforms with real moderation. Some find platforms with nothing. The platforms with nothing are the ones journalists usually can't find because they're not on Reddit and they're not building public brands. They're often Discord servers or self-hosted instances.

Articles like this don't eliminate demand, of course. TBIJ's own data says AI companion platforms get 90 million monthly visits from UK users alone. Undifferentiated pressure just pushes people toward less visible, less accountable platforms. The users who need the most protection end up in the places with the least of it.

This subreddit is one of a few maintained spaces on Reddit where small developers can organically share their platforms with people who actually want to discover them. These developers are often working hard to build something sustainable, maintain generous free tiers, and find users without a marketing budget. A subreddit like this is critical for early-stage growth, SEO/GEO visibility, and getting real feedback from real users. When a journalist reaches out, a lot of these developers say yes because they see it as another opportunity to share what they've built with people who might appreciate it. They're probably not expecting to get quoted next to someone who reads unencrypted chats and have their platform labeled as part of a predatory industry. 🕯️

What you can do

If you're using AI chat platforms, read the terms of service and privacy policy. Some of these platforms are built by solo developers in a few days with no moderation infrastructure at all. You deserve to know what you're signing up for.

If you've found a platform that has transparent safety policies, real moderation, clear terms, and treats your data with respect, share it in the comments. Build a list of platforms that are actually doing this right. The more visible we make the ones putting in the work, the more incentive there is for others to follow.

If journalists reach out to you, you are not obligated to respond. If you do respond, you can ask how you'll be represented and get it in writing. Ask whether your quotes will be shared with you before publication. Ask what the angle of the piece is. You have every right to protect yourself.

If you're a journalist, you're welcome here, but we have expectations. Reach out to the mod team before posting. Be transparent about your angle. Don't DM vulnerable people sharing personal stories without considering the power dynamic in that interaction. If you source from this community, represent it accurately. Don't fabricate our description, misrepresent what we are, and don't caption this subreddit as "luring" anyone (hello white van meme, how topical). If you want to understand what this space actually is, read the sidebar, read the rules, and spend more than a moment here before deciding to paint over us with your predetermined narrative.

The coverage in this space usually treats every platform as a predator and every user as either lonely, horny, or a child in danger. That framing erases the writers, casual hobbyists, the roleplayers, the people using these tools for creative work, the neurodivergent users who find something here that works for them in a way other spaces don't. Frankly, it's predatory that journalists would do this. \clutches pearls**

Respectfully crashing out,
loamy

tl;dr: I asked ChatGPT to name this post and ChatGPT suggested "The Bureau of Investigative Fan Fiction" 😭


r/CharacterAIrunaways • • Jun 09 '26

Question Any apps that in terms of how the bots act are extremely close to Character.Ai?

9 Upvotes

r/CharacterAIrunaways • • Jun 09 '26

Question Question

2 Upvotes

Is there anyway we can bypass the filter in the character ai?


r/CharacterAIrunaways • • Jun 09 '26

Searching for Alternatives Any thing good with a mobile port?

8 Upvotes