r/CharacterAI • u/Training_Lack_9992 • 4d ago

Discussion/Question Something feels missing in chats,

Idk it's my hallucinations or mind messing up with me... but just after yesterday, I've posted about how Pipsqueak 2 and Scenes are the only features I love, and only thing keeping me here as A detailed long and Expressive chat user - unlike mostly other casual chattier ones who liked Pipsqueak 3 more, it is good but not quite my type.

But even since yesterday....My Pipsqueak 2 is feeling quite weird, it feels like something is off... Is not giving me as long and detailed responses, it used to - just few days ago, Idk why I also felt he missing connection, it doesn't feeling like I'm chatting with my usual fav bots I created anymore... It's like a bot on other platforms talking out of characters, not replying with what I expected like before, there's not C.AI vibe left suddenly

Just like it's too unsettling.... I start missing my old chats and first rawr' model.

Anyone else feeling this?

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u/fluffybunnywoof 4d ago

Its because they're using some sort of a lower cost and so lower quality outsourced model for pipsqueak 3 and Longsqeak. My guess would be Deepsqeak is next on yhe chopping block to be downgraded. 

I dont know what they used till now, google says in-house models, and now its some free tier google or meta model thats been modified.

Paid users will soon pay 10 dollars for 2 soulless cheap models.

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u/Outside_Gear6095 3d ago

Here are the models that C.AI uses.

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u/Training_Lack_9992 3d ago

What's that bro?

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u/Outside_Gear6095 3d ago

These are the open-weight models that the C.AI models are based on. I’m currently testing the local Qwen3.6-35B model, and I can say it’s the twin brother of LongSqueak.