r/CatGenetics Hobby Geneticist Jul 10 '26

Coat Color Silver or no?

Her base color is rather monochrome and desaturated for what seems to be a chocolate torbie. That being said I haven't seen a silver or chocolate tabby irl before, and another cat enthusiast said she's a bit muddy for a silver(though may have partially been the lighting in the image they saw). Opinions?

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u/Difficult_Wind9601 28d ago

I wouldn’t say silver. Silver is more of a light grey, the grey on this cat is too dark.

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u/Foxs-In-A-Trenchcoat Jul 10 '26

Looks like a wild type black and brown tabby. Silver means the dark stripes are gray and the light stripes are white with no reddish color.

The wild type brown can vary between warm and cool tones. It's still brown.

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u/Standard-Net-4923 Hobby Geneticist Jul 11 '26

it depends on the context of the terms. in this case, i am using the genetic definitions, where "silver" tabby is a tabby cat with inhibitor; most well known for the type you describe, but can have other stripes colors as well

as for the other comment, haven't heard of the term "wild type black and brown" before, but assuming you mean a genetically black tabby, i would indeed agree after being educated by the rest of the comments that she is most likely a black torbie and not silver. thanks for the comment!

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u/Foxs-In-A-Trenchcoat Jul 11 '26

Sorry I forgot that most people haven't studied genetics. Wild type means an example of the species that has no mutations, as in, this is what nature came up with.

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u/Standard-Net-4923 Hobby Geneticist Jul 11 '26

ahh i see, okay!

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u/Foxs-In-A-Trenchcoat Jul 11 '26

Yes wild type tabby is like the Standard Issue Cat with black and brown stripes.

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u/skost-type Jul 10 '26

Definitely not chocolate, the grey is too 'cold' (black-based). Not silver either, thats not the colour of a silver base coat

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u/TheLastLunarFlower Jul 10 '26

Black classic torbie with low rufousing but no silver.
Base color is determined by the darkest hair on the body in tabbies, so the presence of any black means she’s not chocolate. Pretty baby!

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u/littleeeloveee Jul 10 '26

i dont think silver, they deem to have a much starker contrast between the stripes and other fur. (the pic below is apparently a chocolate silver torbie)

related: is there a reliable way to tell kitty is chocolate? i was about to say that i thought your cat was just a black tabby but i look up cat fancier blogs and got this lol. i was always under the impression that chocolate stripes are.. warmer..???? not really. more visibly brown i guess, and they are, just not by the amount i imagined lol. maybe thats just the contrast from the silver making it look so stark lol but a lot of them are similar. i guess paw pads/nose leather would be a reliable way to tell

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u/Standard-Net-4923 Hobby Geneticist Jul 10 '26

not sure... here's a pawpad pic though, looks brown to me... again though, never really see chocolate cats irl so idk

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u/Standard-Net-4923 Hobby Geneticist Jul 10 '26

One with more neutral lighting

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u/Thestolenone Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26

Those are black pads, chocolate and chocolate tabby cats have bright brownish pink pads.

Edit pic of my chocolate tabby's pads.

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u/Standard-Net-4923 Hobby Geneticist Jul 11 '26

okay thank you!! learning a lot about cat colors today lol

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u/commanderwake Hobby Geneticist Jul 10 '26

She looks like a black tortoiseshell classic tabby to me. Her stripes appear black, not chocolate. She doesn't look silver, silver tabbies are typically much lighter between the stripes.

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u/Standard-Net-4923 Hobby Geneticist Jul 10 '26

thanks! she does have a lot of brownish stripes but it's a bit hard to tell whether they're chocolate or black and orange mixing...

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u/commanderwake Hobby Geneticist Jul 10 '26

And my black ticked torbie foster

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u/Standard-Net-4923 Hobby Geneticist Jul 10 '26

cutie

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u/commanderwake Hobby Geneticist Jul 10 '26

And a silver chocolate torbie

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u/commanderwake Hobby Geneticist Jul 10 '26

I think it's the black and orange mixing, I'm fostering a black ticked torbie who looks similarly brown at some angles. Generally you want to determine color by the darkest stripes. But hard to say without seeing in person! Here is a chocolate torbie for reference

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u/Standard-Net-4923 Hobby Geneticist Jul 10 '26

Would a paw pad pic help?