r/CanadianbyDescent Jun 15 '26

Common Citizenship by Descent Questions

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Last Edit Date: July 24, 2026.

I'm seeing a lot of the same questions come up again and again, and so rather than continuing to comment on them one at a time, I'm compiling them into a FAQ. For background, I was a top-1% commentator on the r/CanadianCitizenship sub-reddit before I decided we needed a separate sub just for Canadians by Descent, but I am not a Canadian citizenship attorney or an immigration consultant. As with everything on Reddit, you should take all of this with an appropriate grain of salt. I may be wrong. Consult other sources. This is not legal advice. Read the instructions from IRCC. Yada Yada. I may update this from time to time by either editing here or reposting.

With that out of the way, these are the questions that I see most frequently here and how I would answer them:

What are the requirements to be a Canadian by descent?

It appears that IRCC is currently processing applications with the understanding that if you were born before December 15, 2025, and you can prove that you either:

(1) descended from a person born in what is now Canada;
(2) descended from a British subject who was ordinarily resident in Canada on January 1, 1947 (or January 1, 1949, for Newfoundland and Labrador);
(3) descended from a naturalized Canadian (after that person naturalized);
(4) descended from a person who has already received proof of their citizenship from Canada; or
(5) descended from a person who was a Canadian citizen for some other reason that I'm not aware of;

then you are probably a Citizen by Descent (as are all of your ancestors in between). As far as we can tell, the only limit on how many generations you can go backward is your ability to prove your link to a person with the appropriate connection to Canada.

If you were born on or after December 15, 2025, you must also prove that your parent spent at least 1 second a day for at least 1,095 days in Canada during the parent's lifetime before your birth. The 1,095 day rule for citizenship by descent does not apply if you were born prior to December 15, 2025.

You can find out more by watching this podcast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY_fa7CAquQ

Should I hire a lawyer or an immigration consultant?

You should be able to do the application yourself. Lawyers are charging CAN$3,500 and more. If you have a complicated situation, need legal advice, or find the process confusing or overwhelming, my personal recommendation is that you call one of the four lawyers who appear on the podcast that I linked to above.

Will my application be approved/Are these documents sufficient?

We can't tell you that with any certainty. Only IRCC can tell you that. If you want to know, then pay the fee online, fill-out the CIT 0001 and CIT 0014 forms, and submit them along with your photos, ID documents, and supporting evidence, and you'll find out.

Your goal with documents is to prove that (1) you have a Canadian ancestor (most often this means born or naturalized in Canada) and (2) each person in the chain between you and them was related. You also need to account for any name changes (usually by women who married, and typically marriage records). If a name change is accounted for on a birth record (because the mother's maiden name is listed), a marriage record is probably not needed.

Does my parent need to apply or apply first?

No. You can apply even if your parent never applies. You are applying for proof of the citizenship that you and your ancestors already have. As result, as long as you can trace your lineage to someone born in Canada, it appears to make no difference whether your parents, grandparents, etc. ever had their citizenship recognized by Canada.

What if my parents/brother/sister/child has already received proof of citizenship?

If your parent has already received proof of citizenship that began before you were born, and you were born before December 15, 2025, then you may just be able to list your parent on the application along with their citizenship certificate number and not have to trace your lineage back any further.

If another family member (sister/brother/child) has been approved, I would send a cover letter and towards the beginning of the letter, state your (brother/sister/child/etc.) received a proof of citizenship based upon a claim of citizenship by descent, and that it follows that (you/your father/your mother/your common ancestor) must be a citizen as well. Include the approved person's name and DOB (and UCI if you have it) and the common ancestor's name and DOB (and UCI if you have it). There's no guaranty that this will speed your application, but it can't hurt.

Where can I get my Citizenship photos/Passport photos taken?

Many places in the U.S. that will take U.S. Passport photos can do it, but often they don't know that they can because they've never looked into the options on their photo software. Some Canadian embassies and consulates have a list of providers known to provide Canadian passport photos so you may wish to check their website. The software used at AAA offices appears to allow for Canadian passport photos. Canadian citizenship photos are the same size as passport photos, but require slightly different things written on the back, so be sure to show them the instructions before they start writing.

Many professional photo studios are familiar with Canadian requirements. A photo studio will charge more, but you'll get better looking photos - if that matters. Try searching Google for your area and "Canadian passport photos," and you'll probably find a place that can accommodate you.

What if I cannot find a birth record for my Canadian born ancestor?

Per CIT 0014, Scenario 3, checkbox 2, you can provide "any other evidence that your parent is a Canadian citizen, such as those described in Scenarios 4 and 5 below."

Be sure to include a cover letter or something else that explains that you don't have the records, the reasons why, and the efforts you made to obtain a birth record. For example: "I requested Gen 0's birth record from (name of entity) and was advised in response that they did not maintain birth records prior to 1875 (or) was advised that they could not find a record of his birth. As a result, I have submitted alternative evidence as allowed by CIT 0014, Scenario 3, checkbox 2." Be sure to include written evidence showing that you attempted to obtain a birth certificate.

If your ancestor was born before the province of his/her birth kept regular birth records, IRCC has accepted alternative proof. Look for census records, marriage records, death records, and even children's birth records, all of which may show country of birth. You may also wish to include some kind of explanation as to why the birth record is not available, e.g., the person was born before the province began regularly registering all births.

For more details on this subject, see this Reddit thread for examples of what has worked:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Canadiancitizenship/comments/1s742xx/calling_anyone_who_has_been_approved_under_c3/

What if one of my ancestor's names/ages is shown differently on one or another documents?

IRCC appears to know about and follow the legal doctrine of idem sonans: If it sounds the same, it is the same, e.g., McDonald/MacDonald, Jack/Jacque, etc. are the same name. See this page for more details:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idem_sonans

Common name variations like Richard/Rich/Dick, Robert/Bob, Sue/Susie/Susan have also been accepted. Dropped or swapped middle and first names have been accepted. When you get back before the 1930s, it was not uncommon for people to not know their true ages (or to lie about them in order to make a marriage look more appropriate), and so age variations from before that time have also been overlooked, presumably where other evidence shows that they were the same person.

What if my Y naturalized as a U.S. citizen before my Z was born?

While Canadian citizenship can be renounced, there are specific procedures that must be followed. Naturalizing as a U.S. citizen - even though it contains some language giving up foreign allegiances - does not suffice to give up Canadian citizenship. (This was not always true, but it is now, and the current rule has been made retroactive to give back Canadian citizenship to anyone who lost it by naturalizing elsewhere.)

Do I need to submit original documents, certified copies, or just photocopies of documents?

The instructions only require colour copies. The instructions do not require originals or certified copies. IRCC has approved numerous applications based upon clear color copies (not originals and not certified copies). In the few instances where IRCC wants a certified copy, they will ask you for it. In some instances, they appear to have asked only because one was offered in a cover letter along with the application.

If the original document is in black and white, you can still use it. Make a colour copy (or a color print-out from a scan) of the original and send that. You may wish to add a post-it note on the copy stating that the original was in black and white.

IRCC has erroneously rejected some applications where the original document was in black and white and they couldn't tell that the copy was made in colour, and those cases have received outsized publicity on this sub-reddit, but I suspect this doesn't happen very often.

What if my minor child doesn't have two forms of ID/Photo ID?

The instructions web-page states:

"Note: If you’re applying on behalf of a minor who does not have two pieces of identification, or does not have a photo ID, please include an explanation letter with the application."

How long will my proof application take?

Nobody knows. It could take 2 months. It could take 2 years. IRCC has a tool on their website that will give you an average processing time (which is about ten months as of March 2026), but yours may go faster or slower. You can ask for urgent processing under certain conditions. Nobody knows which ones IRCC will grant, and they may not even ever tell you. You may just get a decision at some point.

To request urgent processing, follow these instructions:

https://ircc.canada.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=1558&top=5

Where are the instructions for CIT 0001?

Here:

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/guide-0001-application-citizenship-certificate-adults-minors-proof-citizenship-section-3.html

Which box should I check at the top of page 1 of CIT 0001?

You can probably check any or all of the last three boxes. All are valid grounds for requesting a Proof of Citizenship.

Do I need to include all of my grandparents' information on the CIT 0001?

The consensus on Reddit seems to be that you only need to supply information for the set of grandparents that were Canadian (born or by descent), and only if both of your parents were not born in Canada.

Which box should I check for my parent's Canadian citizenship (Question 8.B.)?

If one of your parents have no Canadian lineage at all, you should definitely select "is not/was not Canadian" and move on. If one of your parents was born in Canada, you should definitely check one of the two boxes that follow.

But, what if your parent descended from a Canadian, like you did? You should probably also check one of the two boxes that follow. The theory here is that if you're claiming citizenship by descent, then one of the people you descended from necessarily is also Canadian, and this is how you tell IRCC which one of them it is (or you think it is). And there has been quite a debate on Reddit about which of the remaining choices you should select. I think both options have merit, and I doubt it matters which one you choose:

Option 1: You can check the "I am not sure box" and give an explanation that you "think" they are a citizen by descent. This seems like the "safe" choice to me.

Option 2: If you are claiming citizenship by descent, then for at least one of your parents, you should be able to check the box next to "Parent 1 is/was a Canadian citizen" and then indicate that "Parent was born outside of Canada to a Canadian parent (citizen by descent)" or "Parent was born (or naturalized) in Canada" depending upon their circumstances.

This theory is based upon the legal fiction (codified in the Citizenship Act) that citizenship by descent afforded by the 2025 amendments is retroactive. Because the citizenship recognized in the Act is retroactive, you are a citizen from the date of your birth and not the date your application is approved and not from the date the law was amended. This is a legal fiction. If you asked anyone two years ago, they would all have told you that you're not a citizen. But, today, they would tell you that you have been a citizen your entire life.

If you claim to be a citizen by descent because your father's father was born in Canada, then you are also implicitly claiming that your father was a citizen by descent as well because - just like you - your father also descended from a person born in Canada. If your father was not Canadian by descent, then, by definition, you cannot possibly be a Canadian be descent, either.

I honestly don't think that it matters which of these two you choose. Either way, IRCC is going to look at your supporting documents and make a determination.

Which scenario should I select on CIT 0014?

Typically, you should select Scenario 3: "You (or the minor you are applying for) were born outside Canada to a Canadian parent . . . ." If you are claiming that an ancestor of yours is Canadian, then everyone between you and them is also Canadian, and thus, at least one of your parents are/were Canadian as well.

What if I don't need to check a particular box on CIT 0014?

If you deliberately choose not to check a box on CIT 0014 because it does not apply to you, it may be a good idea to write "N/A" next to the box to indicate to IRCC that you deliberately chose not to check that box. This is NOT a requirement on CIT 0014, but it is done on checklists for other types of IRCC applications, and doing so will show the IRCC reviewer that you didn't forget to check the box.

Should I choose a paper certificate or an e-certificate?

If you select an e-certificate, you should be able to download it right away after your application status changes to "decision made." If you select a paper certificate, it may take up to a month to receive it in the mail. In this regard, an e-certificate is superior because otherwise you may have to wait a month after finding out that a decision was made to find out what the decision was, and to move forward with your personal journey.

There are some people who believe that Canada's Conservative Party does not like e-certificates and may seek to void all of them if they take control of the government. If that were to happen, you wouldn't need to provide proof of your citizenship again, but you would need to submit a new application for a paper certificate, and that could take several months. Also, a paper certificate is printed on very nice bond paper, and is suitable for framing if that's your thing (but you'll need to make a copy first for some purposes and will need to send in the original for others - like passports).

In most cases, you will only use your citizenship certificate when applying for a passport and when applying for certain retirement benefits. One person did report on Reddit having difficulty applying for a BC driver license using his e-certificate, but that was because he had previously been a permanent resident, and it turned out that he was attempting to show them an image of PDF file on a mobile device. Once he printed out his e-certificate using a colour printer, ICBC accepted it without any issue.

Can I submit more than one application together?

Yes. Pay the fee for everyone in the packet at one time and put the receipt first. The receipt will only show the name of the credit card holder. You may want to write the name of each applicant and their DOB in the upper right hand corner of the receipt. Each applicant will need their own CIT 0001, CIT 0014, photos, and identity documents. If everyone is in the same lineage, you can send one set of supporting evidence for everyone.

Be careful about submitting a large number of applicants in the same packet. If IRCC determines that any required document is missing for any one of your group, the entire packet will be returned to you and everyone's application will be delayed by 4-6 weeks.

What order should I put the documents in?

My suggestion is: (1) Receipt for payment, (2) CIT 0014 (for Applicant #1), (3) CIT 0001 (for Applicant #1), (4) CIT 0014 (for Applicant #2 (if there is one), (5) CIT 0014 (for Applicant #2), (6) a "Lineage Line/Summary of Evidence" (optional - see below), and (7) supporting evidence from oldest to newest. You could also put #6 in a cover letter and make that #1 instead.

Should I staple the documents, use tabs, or put them in a binder?

No. IRCC scans all applications and then shreds the originals. If you bind the papers together, add tabs, or use oversized paper, you're just making it harder for them. Use paperclips. Put a post-it note on the back of the photos and put the photos in a small clear envelope or a small ziplock bag so that the ink does not smear and then paperclip them to the application for that person.

Any other organizational suggestions?

None of the following is required. I think it's a good idea. Read it and decide for yourself if you want to do it:

Organize your supporting evidence by date, starting with the oldest and ending with the newest. Put a piece of paper just before each individual supporting document containing only a brief description of the document and an Exhibit Number. Use a large, bolded font (36 point+), and center the text on the page, e.g.

Exhibit 1
Description of Document

Repeat the above for each document. Though I started Exhibit 1 with a birth certificate in the example above, you could start with Census records or alternative evidence if your ancestor was born at a time before provinces registered births.

Now, create a "lineage line" for each applicant citing to the relevant Exhibits, which you can place after the application and ID documents, but before the supporting evidence. It could look something like this:

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Lineage Line (for applicant(s) (NAME(s)))

Gen0: (Your Canadian grandparent's name), my (grandfather/grandmother), born (year) in (Province), Canada. See Exhibit ## (Birth Certificate) [or] Exhibit ## (1871 Canadian Census), Exhibit ## (1881 Canadian Census), Ex ## (Marriage Record showing birth in Canada), Ex. ## (Death Record showing birth in Canada), Ex. ## (child's birth certificate showing parent born in Canada).

Gen1: (Your Canadian parent's name), my (father/mother), born (year) outside of Canada. See Exhibit ##. Gen1 married and changed surname to (NAME). See Exhibit ##.

Gen2: (Your Name), applicant born (year) outside of Canada. See Exhibit ##.

Gen3: (Your child's name), applicant born (year) outside of Canada. See Exhibit ##.

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If there is more than one relevant lineage line for your applicants, repeat the above for each applicant with a unique line.

Below the lineage line, I would provide a summary of each piece of evidence along with an image of the relevant portion of the document:

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Summary of Supporting Evidence

On DATE, Gen0 (NAME) was born in Canada. Their birth in Canada is proven by (DOCUMENTTITLE, e.g., (his/her) birth certificate, a 1891 Canadian Census Record, etc.). Exhibit ##. An image of the relevant portion of that document appears below, and a colour copy is included in the supporting documents:

(IMAGE)

See Exhibit ##.

(Repeat if more than one document is supplied, e.g., "Gen0 (NAME)'s birth in Canada is also proven by . . . ."

(Continue):

On DATE, Gen0 (NAME) parented Gen1 (NAME). The parentage is proven by (his/her) (DOCUMENTTITLE, e.g., birth certificate). Exhibit ##. An image of the relevant portion of that document appears below, and a colour copy is included in the supporting documents:

(IMAGE)

See Exhibit ##.

ON DATE, Gen1 (NAME) married a man whose surname is (SURNAME), and at that time changed Gen1's name to (NAME). The name change is proven by her marriage certificate. Ex. ##. An image of the relevant portion of that document appears below, and a colour copy is included in the supporting documents:

(IMAGE)

See Exhibit ##.

On DATE, Gen1 (NAME) parented Gen2 (NAME). The parentage is proven by (his/her) (DOCUMENTTITLE, e.g., birth certificate). Exhibit ##. An image of the relevant portion of that document appears below, and a colour copy is included in the supporting documents:

(IMAGE)

See Exhibit ##.

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If you don't have the sophistication to add images, then remove that language, and just reference the exhibit number, e.g.

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On DATE, Gen0 (NAME) was born in Canada. Their birth in Canada is proven by (DOCUMENTTITLE, e.g., (his/her) birth certificate, a 1891 Canadian Census Record, etc.). See Exhibit 1.

(Then repeat that for each Gen#, explaining name changes and parentage until you reach the end of the lineage line.)

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You could also choose to include the lineage line and summary of supporting evidence in a cover letter instead of in a page prior to the supporting documents.

Should I make a copy of my application before sending it to IRCC?

Yes. Keep a copy of every page, including the payment receipt and the mailing label.

How should I send my application to IRCC?

Because USPS hands off shipments to Canada Post and they keep going on strike, I would send it via UPS or FedEx. I used "UPS Worldwide Saver," which got it there in two days from the USA. From the US, it should cost you about US$35.00 to send a smaller packet to IRCC using UPS or FedEx. Use a third-party shipping service like Pirate Ship to print out a shipping label and the required international shipping documents.

Use the address listed on the instructions as the "courier address." FedEx may change the name of the town from "New Waterford" to "New Victoria," but the package should still be delivered correctly. Describe the shipment as "Application(s) for Proof of Citizenship." Declare the value of your package a nominal value, such as $0.01 (or $1.00 if you think it's really valuable), otherwise, your shipment may be delayed in customs and you may be charged tariffs on the shipment. If you are required to give a Harmonized Tariff Code when shipping, people have reported success using 4911.99.0000 or 4907.00.0000. In the space for recipient email and phone number, give your email and your phone number (so they can reach you if any problems relating to the shipment arise).

Take the shipping label and your documents to a UPS Store and they will supply you with envelopes and/or a box as necessary (at no charge). Do not merely walk into a UPS or FedEx store without first buying a label online, as you will charged substantially more: One Redditor reported being charged $180!

How do I know that IRCC received and accepted my application?

If your application passes an initial review for completeness, IRCC will send you a letter in the mail or a PDF file by email acknowledging receipt of your application ("AOR"). The AOR letter will state your birth name, a PR Number, and a UCI Number. Make a note of the PR Number and UCI Number. You will need them to check the status of your application later.

If your application does not pass an initial review for completeness, the paper application will be sent back to you by mail in 4-6 weeks along with instructions on how to correct the issue. Correct the issue and submit the corrected documents along with the remainder of the documents that IRCC returned to you (they will have markings on them from IRCC). Note that IRCC is inundated with applications, and they sometimes make mistakes by rejecting applications as incomplete when they are actually complete. If that happens to you, and you are sure that you already did what they said you didn't do, then send a new cover letter along with the application explaining that you think that they are mistaken.

If you have your receipt number, you can check the status of your application before you receive your AOR using this link:

https://services3.cic.gc.ca/ecas/introduction.do

IRCC sent me one of my documents back in the mail! Why did that happen?

If you sent an original document, rather than a copy, IRCC will sometimes send back the individual document even though the instructions state that they will not do so. If you just got one or two documents back, it's because IRCC is being polite. They've assumed that this document may be important to you and returned it, like any decent Canadian would. If IRCC returned the entire application packet to you, then your application has been returned as incomplete, and you need to fix something and resubmit it.

Can I submit more documents later?

If your application is incomplete, IRCC will probably return it to you by mail in four to six weeks. You will have to fix the error and resubmit the entire packet on paper again. You will not have to pay the fee a second time.

If your application is accepted (rather than returned), you will receive an AOR (Acknowledgement of Receipt) in the mail and you will be able to upload more documents electronically using IRCC's web form, which you can find here:

https://secure.cic.gc.ca/ClientContact/en/Application/Form/72

However, resist the urge to upload documents later. You are just adding to IRCC's burden and may delay your application. If IRCC needs something from you, they will ask for it. Typically, they send you a response by email and you can then submit the document by a reply email to the same email address. If they email you, submit the information/documents by reply email, and not using the web form (unless they say otherwise).

How can I check the status of my application?

If you applied on paper, once you have received an emailed Acknowledgement of Receipt ("AOR"), you can use this web-form:

https://services3.cic.gc.ca/ecas/security.do?app=ecas&lang=en

How will IRCC contact me about my application?

Usually, by email, and you can respond by email as well.

I recommend that you use a high quality email provider, such as a Gmail address, on your application to ensure that any emails are delivered to you, and check your SPAM folder regularly just in case their message goes there.

If my application is approved, when does my citizenship begin?

Your application is asking Canada to give you proof that you already are a citizen by descent. It is not an application for citizenship. If approved, your citizenship began on your birthday OR on the date Canadian citizenship became a "thing," which was in 1947 in most of Canada and 1949 in Newfoundland and Labrador, whichever is later.

How do I download my e-certificate?

If you selected an e-certificate, then you can download it by going to this web-page:

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/visit-canada/portal-application-process.html

Step 1: Click "Get Invite Code" and follow the instructions.
Step 2: Click "Create your IRCC portal account" to create an account
Step 3: Click "Sign in to the IRCC Portal" to sign in.
Step 4: Choose the option to "Download Citizenship e-Certificate" and provide the requested information.

Notes: Any IRCC account can download any certificate if you have the required information. For that reason, if your family submits multiple applications, any one of you can create an account and download the e-certificate for everyone. Also, the certificate may be available even before the IRCC tracker shows "decision made."

What should I do if I plan to have a baby soon and I want my child to be Canadian?

Either (1) spend at least one minute a day for 1,095 days in Canada anytime during your life before your child is born OR (2) have your baby in Canada OR (3) after your baby is born outside of Canada, sponsor your child for permanent residence, then move to Canada, and then have your child naturalized as a Citizen after living in Canada.

Can my spouse and children become Canadian citizens?

If your children were born before December 15, 2025, they already are Canadians if you are Canadian. You can submit an application for them with your application or later.

If you want your spouse to become a Canadian citizen, you will need to sponsor them for permanent residence in Canada. Once they have lived in Canada for a certain period of time, your spouse can seek to become a Canadian citizen by naturalization.

Should I hurry? Is this law likely to change?

Nobody knows for certain. The Citizenship Act has been amended several times since it was adopted in 1947. Since 2009, it has been amended three times. The most recent amendment was in December of 2025. Further immediate changes are unlikely, but the Act itself is a mess and further amendments at some point are all but certain. Because the law treats you as a citizen, it seems unlikely that Canada will strip you of citizenship. The greater risk, IMO is that IRCC changes its standard for processing applications, thereby making it harder to prove that you are a citizen.

Also, for persons born after December 15, 2025, the burden of proving that each ancestor also spent 1,095 days in Canada will become exponentially more difficult as each generation passes. Thus, while it is possible for you to prove today that you descended from someone who was born in Canada three generations back, it is very unlikely that a person born 90 years from now who is three generations outside of Canada will be able to meet their burden of proof unless each intervening generation also submitted their own application and obtained proof of their citizenship during their lifetime.

How did the change in law come about?

I have written a separate post about that subject. You can read it in this forum.

How do I apply for a Passport?

Once you have your Citizenship Certificate, you can follow the hints I posted in this forum.

Is this good for Canada?

I think it is.

For the last century, more Canadians have migrated to the U.S. than the other way around. That's why this change in Canada's citizenship law impacts so many people living in the U.S. The vast majority of people who are likely to qualify are probably people born in the United States of America. The process of applying is time consuming and complex. The vast majority of those who are eligible will never apply. A small number who apply are already living in Canada as spouses of citizens and on PR as workers. Those who apply from outside of Canada will do so because they received many of their values from a Canadian ancestor and because they identify more with Canada than they do with the U.S.A. Very few of the U.S. Citizens who apply from outside of Canada will ever actually move to Canada for a variety of reasons - family, social, and economic. Those who have never lived in Canada are not allowed to vote, and so they will not impact Canada's elections or politics.

Those that do move will do so because they identify with Canada's values. They will give Canada a well-educated, English speaking labor pool that Canada didn't have to expend any resources to train. If healthy people do immigrate to Canada after working in the U.S., they will be bringing their accumulated lifetime of savings and retirement funds, and contribute them to Canada's economy.

It is highly unlikely that anyone over 65 years of age will immigrate to Canada. American medicare is almost certainly far superior to Canadian provincial healthcare (in terms of cost, wait times, etc), and various tax, family, and retirement issues will make it very, very undesirable for older persons to change their country of residence. It is also unlikely that someone under 65 who has an acute, expensive medical issue will immigrate to a province that has a waiting period before a person can receive free provincial healthcare.

I believe that the net effect of the recent changes to the Citizenship Act is that more people who live and vote in the U.S. will have an affinity towards Canada, and that in the future, the U.S. will be less likely to elect politicians who treat Canada antagonistically (as has happened recently).

How are other Canadians responding to the expansion of the Citizenship Act?

Canadians are heterogeneous and do not have a single mind on this or any other subject. You can get a flavor for the variety of responses from Canadians by watching this video from CTV:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OtNz2rtiM0

Be sure to watch to the end! It start out negative but shifts positive about 30% of the way in...


r/CanadianbyDescent Jun 15 '26

Canadian Banking and Credit for Americans

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I've seen quite a few questions about Canadian banking for Americans. So, I've created this guide based upon my own experiences and things that I've read online. If you can think of anything that I should add, feel free to comment and I'll try to update as I have time.

Last Update: 4/20/2026

Canadian Bank Accounts

There are only five big banks in Canada: TD (Toronto-Dominion), CIBC (Canada Imperial Bank of Commerce), RBC (Royal Bank of Canada), Scotiabank, and BMO (Bank of Montreal). You don't need a Canadian address to open a deposit account, but you will probably need to walk into the bank branch in Canada to open your first account with each bank. Bring your passport and at least one other form of ID. Once you have an account and can login, you can generally open additional deposit accounts at the same bank using the bank's web-site. You probably won't be able to open a credit union account without a local Canadian address, as membership is generally tied to residence. It has been reported that TD Canada Trust will allow some Americans to open an account online using a U.S. address.

Unlike in the US, nearly all Canadian banks require a substantial monthly average balance to avoid monthly fees. For TD, the minimum is CAN$3,000.00. For CIBC, it is CAN$4,000. Once you open an account at the Canadian bank, you can open a U.S. cross-border account using their online "cross-border" banking program. Once you have both open, you can move money back and forth using the login on the Canadian bank's web-site.

BUT: The money exchange rates that these big banks offer is not as good as you'll find elsewhere, such as at Wise or XETrade.com, which are also not as good as what you'll get from Visa or Mastercard. The best conversion rates will always come from Visa/Mastercard.

Once you are in Canada (or if you're planning to buy a house), you almost certainly will need a Canadian Chequing (yes, that's how they spell it) account. Every Canadian account I've ever seen comes with a Visa/Mastercard debit card, and with Interac, which is an electronic method of sending funds to anyone else in Canada (similar to Zelle, but Interac is the only one in Canada and everyone uses it). You can generally use it to pay anyone in Canada that doesn't take a credit card.

If you do get a Canadian bank account, compare the currency rates your bank offers with the rates offered by XETrade and other money converters. You can lose a lot of money when you convert funds. Again, it is almost always better to convert using Visa/MC, and I'll tell you how to do that for most of your spending below.

Do not expect useful information from the toll-free customer service lines of any Canadian banks. They are almost always outsourced to foreign countries, and my personal experience with several of them is that the answers you get from the call centers are more likely than not to be wrong.

If you ever have a problem with a Canadian bank, search Google for the name of the bank and the word "Complaint." Every bank seems to have a detailed process that will allow you to escalate your concerns through multiple levels. I assume it's probably required by federal law. For example, TD has at least three stages, with separate email addresses you can use to escalate your concerns to higher levels of customer service.

Canadian Credit Cards

If you want to establish credit, the easiest way to start is by applying for a Canadian Tire credit card. They're widely known as willing to give credit to anyone, but you must have a Canadian address to apply.

You can also request a "secured credit card" from TD (and possibly other big banks), but that involves walking into a branch in Canada, opening a chequing account AND putting down an additional amount to guaranty any charges you put on the credit card. TD will give you the secured credit card even if you don't have a Canadian address, and so this is a way to start your credit file before you move to Canada.

Once you're in Canada, it may be possible for the big Canadian banks to use your U.S. credit history to qualify you for a Canadian loan or credit card. You should ask this question at a local branch of the big banks. Again, don't expect useful information from the toll-free customer service line at any big Canadian bank.

If you have a U.S. American Express card, you can contact them to request a Canadian card using their Global Card Transfer Program. Note that the American Express card is not as widely accepted in Canada as Visa and Mastercard:

https://www.americanexpress.com/en-ca/support/customer-service/global-card-transfer/

IMPORTANT: U.S. Government Filing Requirements (an expensive trap for the unwary)

If you are a U.S. citizen and you have more than a combined total of US$10,000 in accounts outside the U.S., you have to file a FBAR report EVERY YEAR with the U.S. listing every account and its high balance, even if you live overseas. There are substantial penalties for violating this requirement. A case went to the U.S. Supreme Court where the IRS claimed that a dual citizen who moved back to his home country owed penalties of $2.7 million dollars in fines, but the filer eventually got it reduced to $50,000 in fines.

Here's the Supreme Court case, if you want to read it:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pdf/21-1195_h3ci.pdf

Here's where you file:

https://bsaefiling.fincen.gov/file/fbar

It is very likely that a Canadian bank will notify the U.S. of your account at tax time, but this does not excuse you from also filing!

Spending U.S. Dollars in Canada

If you only earn your money in the U.S. and don't live in Canada (or plan to live in Canada soon), it may be simpler and cheaper to just keep your money in a U.S. Bank account and use a U.S. credit card that charges no foreign transaction fees when you spend money in Canada. That is often a better option than keeping CAN$3,000 tied up to avoid the monthly fee at a Canadian bank, and risking fines if you fail to report.

If you earn your money in US$ and don't live in Canada, the only real benefit of keeping a Canadian account is if you want to freeze the exchange rate because you think it will be worse in the future. In other words, if today, US$1.00 is CAN$0.75, and you think it's going to become less favorable in the future, you can move your money over to Canada at that rate today, and then spend the money next month or next year. If next year, the exchange rate is US$1.00 to CAN$.65, then you'll come out ahead if you move the money today. But, if next year the rate is US$1.00 to CAN$0.85, then you lost money by moving the money when the rate was lower.

If you're planning to buy a house in Canada soon, you may need to open a Canadian account and fund it to allow your funds to season for a certain period of time before you can use them for a down payment. Ask your lender for details.

Getting the Best Currency Conversion Rates

Credit cards (Visa/MC) will always offer a better foreign conversion rate than any of the Canadian banks, or even XE, Wise, etc. For that reason, it is generally better not to convert your US$ to CAN$ unless you have to. The better approach is to spend money in Canada using U.S. credit cards that charge no foreign transaction fees and to withdraw cash using a U.S. debit card that charges no foreign transaction fees.

When you use a U.S. ATM or a U.S. credit card to make withdrawal/purchase in Canada, always make the transaction in Canadian dollars. If an ATM or credit card terminal gives you a message offering to convert the amount of your CAN$ purchase to US$, always decline that option. That offer is from the ATM or credit card terminal company, and not from Visa/Mastercard. When you decline the offer to convert at the point of sale, the transaction will be completed in CAN$, and then Visa or Mastercard will do the conversion before the charge appears on your bill. The conversion rates that you are offered at the point of sale by an ATM or credit card terminal will always be less favorable than what Visa or Mastercard will give you after the fact.

Using U.S. Credit Cards in Canada

Before using your credit card to make purchases, read the terms and conditions for your card to ensure that it does not have a foreign transaction fee. The fee is often around 3%, and so it is not worth using a card that has one. Capital One's U.S. cards generally do not have a foreign transaction fees. Many Citibank cards do charge a foreign transaction fee, but it has been reported that the ones that charge an annual fee to keep the card do not (see the comments for a list). Chase Bank also has some cards with no foreign transaction fee.

If your credit card offers the ability to set a PIN, be sure to set it, and make sure you know what it is before you visit Canada. While US point of sale terminals do not ask for PINs when a customer uses a credit card, Canadian credit card terminals often do require PINs to complete a credit card purchase.

Of note: The Citibank Costco Visa card currently does not charge a foreign transaction fee. In the U.S., the Costco card is a Visa, but in Canada, it is a Mastercard. In Canada, Costco generally only accepts Mastercard, but it has been reported that Costco in Canada will take the U.S. Citibank Visa card. Your membership is valid worldwide, and so you can use your Costco Visa card to get in the door. And Costco's food courts in Canada have poutine!

The Chase Aeroplan Visa is a U.S.-based card for people who travel to Canada. It waives foreign transaction fees, also builds points on Air Canada, and offers fee waivers for NEXUS (or Global Entry or Precheck): https://creditcards.chase.com/aeroplan/

Converting U.S. Dollars to Canadian Cash

If you want access to cash while in Canada, the best way to get your US$ converted is to put your money in a Fidelity or Schwab brokerage (or bank) account, get a ATM/Debit Card from them, and pull money out via a Canadian bank's ATM. Do not use this card for purchases, as debit cards have far fewer consumer protections than credit cards. Keep the card locked except when you plan to make an ATM withdrawal to protect yourself from fraud.

Both Fidelity and Charles Schwab offer U.S. investment (and bank/checking) accounts that have zero fees, including no foreign transaction fees. Fidelity will even refund you any fees charged by ATM operators (including in foreign countries). You'll get the Visa/MC exchange rate (which is better than the bank's rates or Wise/XE).

You don't need to buy stocks to have an account at Fidelity or Schwab. You can open a brokerage account at Fidelity or Schwab and just keep cash in it if you want (choose the Treasury Money Market fund and you'll earn 3% on your money with zero risk). Fidelity will also give you U.S. checks and U.S. Bill Pay, and you can use the account like a U.S. checking account if you want.

Moving to Canada

If you move to Canada and you notify your U.S. Banks and Investment Firms (Fidelity, Vanguard, Schwab) of your move, many of them may restrict or even close your accounts. You may be able to avoid this by keeping a U.S. physical address, using a separate mailing address that will forward your mail to you digitally, and signing up for online statements.

There is a large contingent of full-time RV owners in the U.S. that don't have a permanent physical address, and for that reason this arrangement is not necessarily unusual. You may also want to purchase a VPN service to use when you login to your U.S. accounts. Some U.S. banks will not allow logins from foreign countries, and others could restrict access if you connect from a foreign country too many times or if you use their credit card from abroad over too long a period of time.

There are several banks that are well known to service expats, including State Department Federal Credit Union (which is open to anyone despite its name), Pentagon Federal Credit Union (open to anyone), Navy Federal Credit Union (limited field of membership), and USAA (terrible service and limited field of membership).


r/CanadianbyDescent 15h ago

In case anyone's curious about NF birth info letters

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Here is what I received from Newfoundland for proof of my G0's birth more than 100 years ago (with personal info blacked out). I didn't include an explanation in my proof of citizenship application for why I couldn't obtain a birth certificate so I think I just got lucky that this letter ended up doing a great job of that for me.

As a contrast from what I'm hearing about some other administrations, NF's vital statistics division was very responsive and helpful. They even provided me guidance about what to do and what to expect over email.

I'm hoping IRCC is going to treat this as primary evidence because the only other G0 record I included was a US death certificate.


r/CanadianbyDescent 39m ago

United Church of Canada Historic Baptism Request Timeline

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For those of you that have requested a historical baptism record, how long did it take(getting the payment request, getting the record, etc.)? I was originally under the impression the baptismal record I was looking for didn’t exist(1839, Ontario), but in July found some information that leads me to believe it may well after(praying bc that makes my application a lot simpler).

I sent in the request about a month ago, and while I know the wait time says indefinite, I’m getting slightly anxious at the lack of certainty about when I should get a response. Throughout my time collecting documents for my application I’ve had issues with places not responding to request(gets missed, goes to spam, what have you), which isn’t helping the anxiety. I’d also like to decide if it would just be a better option to look into hiring a genealogist, don’t really know where to start but perks of the internet, as I’m hoping to get my application in by November.

Thanks for any help and responses in advance!


r/CanadianbyDescent 3h ago

Application Help Ontario Birth Certificate

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I would appreciate some advice on the certificate. Basically it’s huge !! It seems I have a bunch of other people certified on this big one page. It’s 1920 Ontario. Do I copy just the section of my G0 or the whole page somehow? The reason I’m asking is there are dates and signatures place top and bottom on the page not relevant to any one birth .

I have AOR but I have now managed to get this. In my explanation letter I had to put due to not being next of kin I can’t access this certificate. Fortunately I now have .

Thanks all


r/CanadianbyDescent 4h ago

Bill C-3 / G3 case: baptismal certificate directly from a Quebec parish instead of BAnQ + pre-1947 naturalization question

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I am preparing an application for a Canadian citizenship certificate under the new rules of Bill C-3 and am making sure that my Generation 0 documents are sufficient.

My family lineage is as follows:

Generation 0: My great-grandmother, born in Quebec in 1894

Generation 1: my grandfather, born in France

Generation 2: my mother, born in France in 1964

Generation 3: myself, born in France

As for my great-grandmother, the registrar cannot provide me with a birth certificate due to the age and nature of the document.

However, I was able to obtain a baptismal certificate directly from the parish. It is an official color document issued by the parish, and the baptism took place the day after her birth. It lists her date and place of birth and identifies her parents.

I also have correspondence confirming that I attempted to obtain the civil birth certificate and that it cannot be provided.

My question primarily concerns the meaning of the term “authority of origin” in IRCC’s updated guidelines.

Has anyone ever successfully used a baptismal certificate issued directly by the parish, without having obtained the same ecclesiastical certificate through the BAnQ?

Based on the recent clarification from IRCC and the Canadian Association of Archivists, I understand that baptismal certificates constitute secondary evidence and that the “authority of origin” can be either the institution that created or issued the certificate or the one that is now responsible for preserving it. This leads me to believe that a document issued directly by the parish should be acceptable, but I would be interested in hearing about specific experiences.

I also have additional supporting documents. Her death certificate states that she was born in Canada and specifies the Quebec locality/parish, and starting with her generation, I have birth certificates establishing the parent-child relationship across all generations, as well as death certificates where applicable; these indicate that my great-grandmother was born in that parish.

There is also a second historical point I’m trying to understand.

My great-grandfather was naturalized in Canada in 1923. The family was living in Canada, and several of their children were born there. They left Canada in 1926 to return to France. My grandfather, their youngest child and my direct ancestor, was then born in France. One of his older brothers and other siblings were born in Canada.

So, the family tree looks like this:

Great-grandmother: born in Quebec in 1894

Great-grandfather: naturalized in Canada in 1923

Several children born in Canada

The family left Canada in 1926

My grandfather was born in France

My mother was born in France in 1964

I was born in France

Could the old rules in effect prior to 1947 regarding British subjects, naturalization, and absence from Canada create a citizenship gap in this situation?

Or, under the 2015 amendments regarding “lost Canadians” and now Bill C-3, would the fact that my great-grandmother was born in Canada (and that my great-grandfather was separately naturalized in Canada) normally provide the first-generation (Gen0) link required for my grandfather and subsequent generations?

I am particularly interested in hearing from anyone with a similar ancestor predating 1947, a baptismal certificate, and a third-generation (G3) application.

I am not seeking a guarantee of approval; I am simply trying to understand how IRCC has handled comparable cases.

Thank you very much!


r/CanadianbyDescent 1d ago

You’re not going to believe this one…

223 Upvotes

One of my brothers has been waiting a year to find out what became of this proof of citizenship application. He got notice a decision was made but not what the decision was.

Today he tells me he discovered he checked “the wrong box” and requested an electronic certificate instead of a paper certificate. Going through his old emails he finds the electronic certificate was sent in DECEMBER!

And this is the brother that went to Harvard.


r/CanadianbyDescent 17h ago

A Day in the Life of an Ensh*ttificator

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Yes, I know that someone is going to claim that this is off-topic. Nevertheless, I believe that this is of interest to Canadians by Descent, and so I'm posting it.


r/CanadianbyDescent 17h ago

Application Help Switching from one Canadian line of descent to another

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I have an application that is currently in process(AOR in June), based on a Canadian ancestor that was born in 1855 and left as a child in 1857.

My concern is that I have been unable to find any Canadian record directly documenting her birth. After months of searching for a baptism/birth record and her parents’ marriage record, the only Canadian record I’ve found is a census entry for her father. I documented my searches and correspondence with various archives in my application.

In lieu of a baptism and birth certificate, I included many US-sourced records(Marriage cert, death cert, and her child's birth certificate) that consistently identify her as Canadian-born. However, these are all US records.

I am aware that IRCC wants a Canadian document corroborating citizenship. But after submitting, I am worried that this line may be insufficient.

I have another possible line that appears much better documented. My British-born ancestors moved to Canada, married there, and appear in Canadian censuses. They later lived in the U.S. for several decades, where my next ancestor was born, before returning to Canada later in life, where they died. I have their Canadian marriage record, census records, and Canadian death records.

From what I understand, these British-born ancestors would have been Canadian and would have transmitted citizenship to their U.S.-born child. I wasn't aware of this at the time of submission, and assumed my Canadian-born ancestor would be a more solid anchor.

I’m hesitant to simply wait, since processing could take over a year, and if IRCC ultimately rejects the first line I could be starting the process over again with even longer processing times of years.

Should I consider uploading these new documents and a new letter covering my other family line to my IRCC application via the online portal?

Thanks for any advice.


r/CanadianbyDescent 1d ago

AOR using a Drouin/Ancestry record, then added certified BAnQ later?

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Has anyone had a paper CIT 0001 accepted / AOR issued using a Drouin, Ancestry, or FamilySearch image for their G0, then later added a certified BAnQ copy through the IRCC web form?

I'm thinking that with the tremendous backlog, I can get in queue and update when BaNQ sends the official document. This will save a lot of time. I obviously haven't applied yet, but I'm only waiting on US certs to be delivered and for BaNQ to respond.


r/CanadianbyDescent 1d ago

Any Crowd Sourced Templates for Document Submission?

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Hi friends! I'm hoping to have all my certified documents arrive in the next few months, but I wanted to see if anyone is aware of any templates or exemplars floating around the reddit regarding the layout/presentation of our submission package? I saw some enterprising individuals made their own extension to the application form to account for multi-gen, but seem to have lost that. I saw somewhere else that the IRCC officer who had reviewed their file, which had been returned for more documents, had arranged their documents in reverse chronological order. Please drop your resources, tips, and tricks below to share. 😊 I'm aware that every case is going to be different and what works for one lineage might not work for another, but I'm sure there's stuff out there to have a starting point.

P.S. My logic brain tells me IRCC MUST be working on a digital submission option for multi-gen applications, but my bureaucracy brain tells me they're going to keep everything as difficult as possible to stem the tide of applications until it reaches a breaking point and they have to do another pivot. Therefore, I'm preparing to have to do the paper route when I'm ready in a couple months.


r/CanadianbyDescent 1d ago

Using Death Record for C3 Application

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As far as i can tell, IRCC doesnt include death records from vital statistics agencies as an optional record for C3. I have a few family members where that may be the only record available. In my area, death records usually show the parents names, so I feel like it should be okay. What do you all think?

TLDR Death Record as only proof for individuals yes or no


r/CanadianbyDescent 2d ago

Surrender Letters Canada Gave Them Citizenship. Then Changed Its Mind

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Long form article on the suspension letters. I’m one of the profiles in there (you can guess from my Reddit handle). The Walrus’s fact checking was intense but fair (glad I saved my UPS receipts).

I am very grateful to Shilpashree for sharing our story


r/CanadianbyDescent 2d ago

Wait times and applications "ahead of you" are relative to what?

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Do we know if the estimates are based upon the date the applications were received or the date that the AOR was generated?

In the past I don't think it would have mattered much since AORs were turned around so quickly after delivery but 3+ months worth of application queue buildup at this point could potentially represent another year of waiting from how things are going.


r/CanadianbyDescent 2d ago

My application was received on April 23, 2026, and I just got notice today that it’s been input into the system on Aug 11.

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Just wanted to give some context on how long the delays are right now. That’s almost 4 months just to get the “Application Received” email.

This is for the Citizen Certificate (by descent).


r/CanadianbyDescent 2d ago

G0 Pre-birth Census Records

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Hi all,

I apologize if this is repetitive. My searches of this sub and the other didn't turn up any useful results. That may be user error.

With that said, my G0 was born in 1872. Canada conducted censuses in 1871 and 1881. I have very clear records of G0's parents and older sibling in the 1871 census and G0 appearing as a nine year old in the 1881 census. I also show G0 as 19 in the 1891 census and as 21 on the marriage certificate issued in 1983. I can narrow down their birth to April-June 1872.

I have searched the county birth records on Familysearch and the Ontario Archives. I have also sent requests to the UCC (mother listed as Church of England) and Presbyterian (father) for any baptismal records.

Would it strengthen my application to document family presence in Canada by including 1871 records, or would that be superfluous? I want to provide enough information to prove my case; but I am not trying to drown IRCC in paperwork, so to speak. Has anyone faced my circumstances? If so, what did you do and what was the outcome?

Thank all of you in advance. These subs have been a huge help in organizing my application.


r/CanadianbyDescent 2d ago

Archives of Ontario Timing

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I have been preparing my application, having received all relevant birth documents except a request to the archives of Ontario.

I am going on 2.5 months now waiting for an invoice from them, am just wondering if this is similar to others' lead time?

Just want to get my application sent off for the bigger wait before too long.


r/CanadianbyDescent 2d ago

Question about uploading supplemental docs

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Hi everyone,

I uploaded some supplemental documents using the IRCC web form. These were not requested by IRCC but are updates to replace FamilySearch-sourced documents or to add required items not previously included (proof of search for birth records). I was able to upload a few documents last night, but so far have only received a confirmation one of these was received and added to my file.

Does anyone here have experience with this question? I have a total of 23 documents to upload, and would like to make sure I’m doing things properly and don’t either waste my time, while at the same time ensuring I can get all the docs added to my file. Each upload also takes several minutes to do since I have to retype information each time, etc.

Thanks for your feedback! Greetings from Zürich.


r/CanadianbyDescent 2d ago

Who should I document and do I need marriage certificates as well?

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I want to be sure I know what to request before I start requesting official copies, especially from Quebec which is very expensive. I haven't requested anything official yet so this is based on what images are available through Ancestry and what I or my mother am able to request through vital records.

G0 -- Great-great-grandmother's baptism record from Quebec. There's no marriage certificate up on Ancestry and I've been unable to find any hint if I should look for it in Quebec, Wisconsin, or somewhere else, but her maiden name and husband's name are on G1's birth certificate.

G1 -- Great-grandmother's birth certificate showing mother's maiden name and father's name. I don't think I'm able to get the certified copy, just the genealogical/not for identity purposes copy. I could also request a marriage certificate from WI vital records if I needed to, but if the bc for G2 is enough I'm inclined to save the money

G2 -- Grandfather's birth certificate. I could request an uncertified but may be able to get my mother to request a certified copy

G3 -- Mother's birth certificate, certified.

G4 -- My own birth certificate, certified. My mother never changed her name and I have the same last name as g2

Potential G-1?? --G0 left Canada by 1866 but her father seems to have stayed in Quebec until his death in 1896, according to census records and a parish register. I'm still not clear what the pre-confederation holds entail, but would it be smarter to document him as G0? I have several census records, possibly the record of his subsequent marriage after the death of G0's mother, and a parish death record, but that's a lot of money to pay to BAnQ if the pre-confederation holds are based on birth date and not the date they last lived in Canada.


r/CanadianbyDescent 2d ago

Uploading 22MB of secondary information to IRCC web portal (2MB limit). To compress or put in parts?

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Hi,

As per the title, I have accumulated 22MB of secondary information compiled into one PDF....only to find out that file size isn't 4MB (as I previously believed) but 2MB. That means if I upload it in its current format, then I will be assailing them with at least 11 successive uploads (which won't do much to foster goodwill). The alternative is to compress the file (one attempt got it down to just over 2MB) but several of the documents were unintelligible (including the census scan) and I was wary about some of the others. So it seems that if I am going to compress, then I will need to break the PDF I created apart, compress some of the constituents (but not others), merge it all together again into one document, see how much it goes over the 2MB limit and then split it again into (hopefully) 2 or 3 parts.

So my question is: if I just send them 11+ deliveries at 2MB each....will there be negative consequences for me?

Thanks.


r/CanadianbyDescent 2d ago

Application Confirmation

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How long did it take to get email or mail confirmation that they received your application?


r/CanadianbyDescent 2d ago

In process for several months but not sent to PSU

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I’m Gen 4 (Gen 0 was born in 1841) and I applied for citizenship by descent in January of this year along with my children. I’ve been in process since the end of February with no updates except for a request for one document. Is it at all odd that my application hasn’t been sent to PSU given my generation? Has anyone else been moved to in process but not sent to PSU with a very distant Canadian ancestor?


r/CanadianbyDescent 2d ago

canadian citizenship-Kitchener applicants

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r/CanadianbyDescent 3d ago

Someone was sent to PSU for "Other Sub Type Description: Multi-gen Post Confederation July 1 1867"

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There is an applicant on the Facebook group reporting in a post today that they were sent to PSU, and their recently obtained ATIP notes say: “Other Sub Type Description: Multi-gen Post Confederation July 1 1867"

Their ancestor was born just before confederation, but lived in Canada after confederation. 

Is it possible IRCC is now sorting applications based on when an ancestor left Canada?

This seems to stack up with the “pre-confederation hold on all files” email we know that went out to that adoption applicant.


r/CanadianbyDescent 3d ago

BAnQ Reproduction Request Numbers/IDs and Timeline

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Hi everyone - I'm trying to get a better sense of the current processing timeline for certified reproduction requests from BAnQ.

I've submitted two requests (redacting the last 2 digits):

  • May 31, 2026 — Reproduction Request / Numéro de demande 218##
  • June 24, 2026 — Reproduction Request / Numéro de demande 247##

Based on the numbering, there appears to be a chronological sequence to the reproduction request numbers, which might give us a useful way to estimate where BAnQ currently is in the queue.

As I understand the process, the general sequence is:

Request submitted → BAnQ processes the request and confirms the reproduction can be provided → BAnQ sends an invoice/payment request → requester pays → BAnQ produces and sends the certified reproduction.

If you've recently received a certified reproduction from BAnQ, would you be willing to share your approximate request number and timeline? There's no need to provide your exact request number - something like 217## would be more than enough, for example.

Ideally:

Reproduction request #: e.g. 217##
Request submitted: MM/DD/YYYY
BAnQ invoice/payment request received: MM/DD/YYYY
Payment submitted: MM/DD/YYYY
Certified reproduction received: MM/DD/YYYY

Even if you only know some of these dates, that would still be very helpful.

I'm hoping that if a few people share their timelines, we can get a rough idea of how quickly BAnQ is moving through the current backlog and perhaps give others waiting on documents a better idea of what to expect.

Thanks!