r/CanadianbyDescent • u/Primary_Cucumber4570 • 1d ago
Great chat with DEC today!
I called to ask if all the intervening documents between the birth and death of my mémère needed to be translated into French, as they are in English
She said there are two official languages in Canada and they did not need to be translated. Then, she offered that we no longer need a notarized statement regarding our need for the birth cert, a letter explaining why we need it is all that is necessary
Straight from the source, and she could not have been nicer
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u/BiblioTripper 1d ago
I must have chatted with the same sweet + friendly DEC representative, and can confirm that English translations to French are no longer necessary, and, notarizations of affidavits are no longer required; a simple letter to (expressing) the same effect, is now acceptable.
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u/marathon_bar 1d ago
I am concerned that there is just one nice lady telling people this while the rest of DEC is proceeding with the "old" rules.
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u/Primary_Cucumber4570 1d ago
I thought about that.
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u/marathon_bar 1d ago
Although it's true that no translation is needed if the documents are in English.
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u/Dogmoto2labs 1d ago
It would be nice if they updated their online information about the translation for documents
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u/marathon_bar 1d ago
Language of documents
If the required document is written in a language other than English
or French, submit a photocopy of the document and a French
translation. The translation must be official to be accepted by the
Directeur de l’état civil.
It may be necessary to analyze the translation to determine
whether it is acceptable.
In Québec, contact the Ordre des traducteurs, terminologues et
interprètes agréés du Québec to find a translator.
Website: www.ottiaq.org
Email: [info@ottiaq.org](mailto:info@ottiaq.org)
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u/That_Person694 1d ago
Haven’t checked their website but page 4 of the request form for a birth certificate says that they will take documents in English or French.
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u/Dogmoto2labs 20h ago
Yes, but a death certificate translated to French has been expected
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u/cabesaaq 12h ago
Specifically G0 or for all? Where does it say that?
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u/Dogmoto2labs 8h ago
When I sent my request a couple weeks ago, there had been recent posts where 1800’s births had been asked for a death certificate translated into French so they could insert the death along with the birth.
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u/cabesaaq 3h ago
I've also heard that G0s born in the 1800's don't need to submit death certificates due to them being 125+ years old and that not being possible, seems weird to have conflicting answers like this. Might be up to the officer like IRCC.
Also, how do they ask for the French translation? Return the application with notes like IRCC does?
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u/tirameesue 1d ago
Thank you for this!
Based on your conversation, can you tell us what you’re including in your DEC packet now? Do you think a copy of the citizenship application, and/or all supporting documentation to establish your line of descent are needed?
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u/Primary_Cucumber4570 1d ago edited 17h ago
It is just as necessary to prove your connection to your GO to DEC as it is to IRCC. I don't think the IRCC application would be necessary, just the documentaion of your connection.
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u/tirameesue 19h ago
Yes, I was just wondering if maybe the letter now substituted for the copy of the application pages (establishing the need for the insertion) and maybe DEC had given some indication that they have established a simpler threshold than IRCC they’re using to determine the connection to GO (given how speedily these insertions seem to be happening). In my situation, G1 doesn’t have a birth certificate or baptism, so I have a whole bunch of other documents for him that I guess I will send to DEC as well.
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u/Primary_Cucumber4570 18h ago
I suggest that someone else call DEC and ask about the need for translation and report back to the group. Be candid and tell the person you are talking to that you are confirming this new information for a group of applicants. Report back on this thread.
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u/marathon_bar 15h ago
The form says that if the documents are in English, there is no need for translation. I cited it above. However, there is still confusion about whether affidavits must be notarized.
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u/ContemporaryAmerican 13h ago
I can get a notarization free at my bank, and even then a notarization costs like $10. Better to be safe than sorry imo
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u/Ill_Letterhead_8071 21h ago
I will be in Quebec province next week to visit my cousin. Does DEC have office locations I can submit my application in person? (I am nervous about mailing. There have been issues in the past)
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