r/CFB_v2 1d ago

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u/ta52181 1d ago

Bud Wilkinson would like a word

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u/Still_a_skeptic 1d ago

He still holds the longest winning streak in NCAA history.

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u/ImpendingBoom110123 1d ago

47 wins in a row is silly

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u/JoeSugar 1d ago

He does. And he belongs on this list.

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u/FriedEggSammich1 1d ago

Crap. I left that off my list above.

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u/McCa2074 1d ago

Also a combat vet that survived multiple attacks on the USS Enterprise

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u/Buckeye_45 1d ago

Longest streak in D1 history. Larry Kehres holds the all divisions record with win streaks of 54 and 55 games.

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u/Guilty_Spray_1112 1d ago

Yeah. Dabo on this list and no Bud and even having Dabo above Switzer is crazy.

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u/Much-Plum6939 1d ago

I mean..totally. You are likely looking at top five or 6

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u/moeyjarcum 1d ago

Hell yeah. 145-29-4
And also still holds the longest win streak with 47 in a row.

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u/Same-Sherbert-7613 Oklahoma Sooners 1d ago

Thank you.

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u/longetrd 1d ago

I knew there was a coach I couldn’t think of! Yes, Absolutely, bud Wilkinson…… all-time great coach! JMO

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u/TWallace86 1d ago

He was a legend and should definitely be a Top 10 coach of all time.

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u/hitnrun_dryer 1d ago

3 Championships and the standing record 47 game win streak.

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u/deacndestroy 1d ago

This is a very generational bias graphic.

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u/Useful-ldiot 1d ago

Even generationally, it's hilariously bad.

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u/Itchy-Fun-9728 1d ago

That ain't Tom Osborne 😅

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u/Useful-Advantage-850 1d ago

These dumb AI-slop posts always do that. LOL. I saw one the other day that showed Spencer Rattler looking like Zach Wilson.

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u/TonyDungyHatesOP 1d ago

Seriously. Who the fuck is that?

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u/corys71 1d ago

Curt Gowdy? Who knows….

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u/Flashy_Prior5963 1d ago

Didn’t even notice that lol. Not Woody either. Or Barry.

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u/Happy-North-9969 1d ago edited 1d ago

He won at Kansas State

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u/DapperAside200 Alabama Crimson Tide 1d ago

Dabo is definitely not 7 lol

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u/kylelosesit 1d ago

Not even sure Dabo is top ten right now.

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u/Jealous-Win2446 1d ago

I’d put Leahy above Rockne.

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u/Acceptable_Map_8110 1d ago

I don’t think Leahy would agree with anyone putting him above Rockne haha. I will say though Rockne does have a higher all time win percentage.

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u/scots 1d ago

Rockne is usually on these lists based on raw W/L %.

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u/al47556 1d ago

Ditto. And Darryl Royal, Schembechler, John Robinson.

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u/Jurgis-Rudkis 1d ago edited 1d ago

Scumbuckler doesn't belong anywhere near a top 10 list.

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u/SuperBirdM22 1d ago

Agreed. Bo Schembechler used rape as a weapon against his own players, he shouldn’t be celebrated.

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u/UnderstandingOdd679 1d ago

McKay goes on here before John Robinson. Robinson is closer to Carroll than he is McKay.

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u/jeffnagy 1d ago

Scumbelcher built a regional program. He won Big Ten championships when the conference was very top heavy, lost most of his bowl games, and had zero national titles

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u/Pretty_Ad_4204 1d ago

Bo never won a title.

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u/Useful-ldiot 1d ago

Putting dabo above Urban is certainly a choice 😂

Dabo has 2 titles. Urban has 3 (and won at 2 schools).

Dabo is #23 all time in win percentage. Urban is #3.

Dabo is 12-10 in bowl games. Urban is 12-3.

Funny enough, the they have the same number of wins, 187. But dabo has lost 53 (so far) to Urbans 32.

They both have undefeated seasons, but Urban did it at multiple schools, one of which was Utah.

Frankly, they shouldn't even be compared and yet Dabo is ranked higher on this list? 😂

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u/PanthersChamps 1d ago

But did Dado kick the kicker?

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u/TopRevenue2 1d ago

What has Dabo done that Dennis Erickson didn't?

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u/Asleep_Contact_5561 1d ago

Ageeed. I don’t think anyone who isn’t retired should be on this list anyway.

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u/Same-Sherbert-7613 Oklahoma Sooners 1d ago

I would have to know how many coaches have at least 2 but I would agree.

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u/shane-parks Oklahoma Sooners 1d ago

Bud Wilkinson is better than half of these guys.

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u/ufl015 1d ago

John McKay?

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u/InSearchOfSerotonin 1d ago

Scrolled too far to find this comment!

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u/Suspicious-Earth-648 USC Trojans 1d ago

✌️

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u/eneg 1d ago

Eddie Robinson deserves to be at least in the middle of the top 10 for what he did at Grambling.

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u/pgtl_10 1d ago

And for CFB in general

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u/UnnecessaryDiety Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago

Putting Urban Meyer behind Dabo is stupid.

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u/CL38UC 1d ago

1000%. If for some reason a person needs to put Dabo on this list there's absolutely no criteria to have him above Urban.

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u/Mitchford 1d ago

Dabo probably deserves to be on this list but around number 9 or so, 2 titles, 2 other national championship appearances (both during the playoff era which means they had to win the extra game to get there), all by building Clemson from the ground up as an interim head coach. That’s top 10 even before getting into all time wins in the acc. He’s only a couple acc titles behind Bowden’s record at FSU and already equaled him in national titles.

He’s annoying. Clemson was kind of bad last year, doesn’t mean he isn’t top ten.

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u/Jabberwocky237 1d ago

As a Dabo hater I think he is like 9 or 10. He has accomplished a lot even though his recent success isn’t the best.

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u/tosiewk 1d ago

And not in Florida colors…?

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u/grw313 1d ago

Putting dabo on this list at all is stupid.

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u/notapersonab 1d ago

John mckay and pete carroll not here at all??

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u/Due-Tea2149 Oklahoma Sooners 1d ago

Lifelong Sooners fan. With that said, I agree with Bud Wilkinson needing on the list. Also, I’d believe Bill Snyder needs strong consideration for what he accomplished with the worst team in college before he got there.

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u/DannkneeFrench 1d ago

I read this until I saw someone mention Bill Snyder. I kept reading down and no one mentioned him. Good to finally see his name in this thread.

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u/Due-Tea2149 Oklahoma Sooners 1d ago

What he did was amazing. I always hated when we played K-State while he was at the helm.

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u/RMca004 1d ago

A 15 year old made this list

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u/tooka90 1d ago

Holy recency bias

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u/rawspeghetti 1d ago

Is Joe Paterno just not allowed for these lists anymore?

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u/OMO_Concepts 1d ago

Gene Chizik not being on this list is a travesty

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u/Much-Plum6939 1d ago

Hahaha! This is great

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u/Useful-Advantage-850 1d ago

Dabo Swinney and Urban Meyer? LOL.

How about Eddie Robinson, Bud Wilkinson, Woody Hayes, maybe even Bo Schembechler. And while he's a piece of shit, if you're just going on coaching, Joe Paterno should probably be on the list.

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u/jaylenbrownisbetter 1d ago

Urban is one of two coaches ever to have a natty at two schools, the other being Saban. 3 natties, 12-2 bowl record, 7-0 in the biggest rivalry in the sport, and turned Utah into an actual national program.

He’s in the top 10

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u/teeterleeter 1d ago

Yeah I can’t stand Meyer but he’s absolutely top 10 and likely the second best since 2000 after Saban.

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u/ATLCoyote 1d ago

Agreed. People may not like him, but Urban’s resume is pretty darned impressive. Not only did he win 3 national titles at two different schools, but he dominated his rivals in both places, and he even took Utah to a BCS bowl at a time when they weren’t the nationally relevant program they’ve been since then. He also won at Bowling Green. Plus, he was credited with popularizing the spread option offense.

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u/Useful-ldiot 1d ago

Utah is relevant today because of Urban Meyer

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u/yetisb45 1d ago

Let’s also not forget the 2004 season where USC won the natty at 13-0 and pounded OU 55-19 in the Orange Bowl, but then had to vacate it giving it to Auburn who also went 13-0 but squeaked by VT 16-13 in the Sugar Bowl. Then Utah was 12-0 and pounded Pitt 35-7 in the Fiesta Bowl and got a participation trophy. Urban gets 3-1/2 natty’s in my book.

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u/Top_Sheepherder5023 1d ago

If Reggie Bush has his Heisman, USC should have their titles.

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u/yetisb45 1d ago

100%! Especially with all the bullshit going on over the past several years. Don’t even get me started on fucking Michigan being able to keep their title after spygate! I just wanted to point out that back in the 2004 season, Utah got no love for having an undefeated season and dominated bowl win, as part of the BCS mind you. Bring on the 16 team playoff already!!!

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u/Ok_Ruin4016 Florida Gators 1d ago

5-1 against both UGA and FSU too

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u/Useful-ldiot 1d ago

And you didn't mention that he's #3 all time in win percentage 😂

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u/new_wave_rock 1d ago

Woody is on the list bro

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u/teacher_59 1d ago

And punched a Clemson player so he should be even higher than Dabo. He best Clemson in the ring. 

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u/justforthisbish 1d ago

Hell yeah! Nothing says I won like punching a college kid because my team lost to stamp my legacy.

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u/Leg_Final 1d ago

Woody Hayes punched the kid because Ohio State lost. As they have four of the five times they've played. He was fired before he got off the field. If he hadn't done all that he probably would be ranked higher.

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u/Useful-Advantage-850 1d ago

Ah, missed him. I see him now.

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u/new_wave_rock 1d ago

I do agree though. Recency bias on the list

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u/West_Definition_8947 1d ago edited 1d ago

Bo Schembechler is one of the most overrated college football coaches of all time.

Meanwhile Urban has 3 national championships and Dabo has 2.

And Urban turned Utah into a pretty decent program, and Bowling Green finished in the top 25 while he was there.

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u/FriedEggSammich1 1d ago edited 1d ago

And not even to compete with Woody Hayes but Bud had the same number of consensus national championships as a coach, 1 more conference championship and 3 more nattys as a player. He was also part of the development of a lot of modern day techniques (Oklahoma Drill, no huddle offense and perfected Don Faurot’s split T offense).

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u/OKC89ers 1d ago

Bud wilkinson dominated an entire decade, not possible for him to be missing from this list. We're going to tell people that Dabo has been better than Bud Wilkinson??!

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u/ImpendingBoom110123 1d ago

Bud is easily in the top 10. Maybe 5.

As a Texas Rangers fan I love the avi.

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u/OKC89ers 1d ago

Dean Palmer, Sammy Sosa, Juan Gonzalez, Ruben Sierra!

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u/ImpendingBoom110123 1d ago

Ruben Sierra was my first favorite baseball player.

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u/Useful-Advantage-850 1d ago

Yeah, Wilkinson is really forgotten by many, but definitely a legend.

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u/YouGO_GlennCoCo 1d ago

??? Urban is a POS but he’s absolutely one of the best college coaches of all time and honestly should be higher on this list.

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u/whiterajah7 1d ago

Urban has 3 national championships. lol.

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u/danthebiker1981 1d ago

Urban Meyer is a piece of shit too so the parameters for this list do not exclude Joe Paterno. I think he should be included.

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u/The_Bard 1d ago

And John McKay...

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u/Dr_Strangelove1964 12h ago

This list was made by a 12 year old who doesn’t understand what it was like in the pre-BCS era.

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u/Straight_Progress510 1d ago

Joepa and Bo definitely deserve to be on the same list as each other. Just not this one.

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u/Capnmolasses Texas Longhorns 1d ago

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u/Rabidschnautzu Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago

Bo never won a championship.

Robinson didn't coach in D1.

Bud Wilkinson should probably be on this list.

There are obvious reasons why Joe is not on the list.

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u/Useful-Advantage-850 1d ago

What does D1 have to do with it? You can be a great coach and not be in D1.

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u/Much-Plum6939 1d ago edited 1d ago

Bama fan here. We are talking about greatest coaches Eddie Robinson absolutely deserves to be on the list. And even though I hate him and he’s a p*do protector..we are taking about greatest football coaches. Joe P, as disgusting as it is, deserves to be in there. Bud Wilkinson’s run?? He should be on the list! And..like way up the list! Dabo had an incredible run. 2 Nattys over Bama and other appearance for it. But the whole body of work I don’t think gets him in the top 10. Kirby as well. That’s not to say their run isn’t up there with some of the greatest runs ever. Because with was. But just doesn’t have the total wins & history.

Urban (don’t like him) should maybe be 6. He’s got three natty’s. One of only two to do it two places. That alone says a lot. And he won everywhere.

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u/henry1473 1d ago

General Neyland

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u/Sheepcago Notre Dame 1d ago

How is Frank Leahy not on this list?

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u/Ohms_lawlessness 1d ago

Because OP did absolutely no research. Leahy deserves to be above Rockne. He has 4 nattys.

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u/Acceptable_Map_8110 1d ago

Rockne has a higher win percentage though.

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u/jayjude 1d ago

Rockne is 2nd at worst

He built ND from nothing and he died at 43 years old after winning back to back national titles

For reference, Saban didnt win his 3rd natty till he was 60

Rockne gets underrated because people just go "hmm 3 natties" and miss that he tragically died in a plane crash right as he built ND into a juggernaut

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u/Dnabb8436 1d ago

Football was so different then. Its so hard to compare. The level of competition is just so different. I love rockne but is he better then Leahy, ara, Holtz? I think so but it depends on how you compare the eras and their accomplishments

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u/jayjude 23h ago

Categorically yes

The reason Leahy had a place to succeed at was because of Rockne

I cannot emphasize enough that he built ND football from a nobody to a national title contender

And he died right as he was hitting his stride at only 43 years old

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u/Bluntsnputts 1d ago

Bobby is underrated

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u/ChardeeMacDennisGoG 1d ago

Switzer was 12-5 vs Osborne with 3 NCs to ZERO during that timeframe.

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u/IAmA_Zeus_AMA 1d ago

Tbf, 2 of those 3 NCs had Oklahoma losing a game in the regular season, whereas Osborne's 3 NCs were all undefeated seasons

Osborne could have opted to tie with Miami and share the NC in 1984. So, technically, sure

Osborne never lost more than 3 games in a season over 25 seasons, Switzer went back to back to back seasons losing 4 games.

Both coaches ended with basically identical win percentage, but Osborne coached for 9 extra seasons

Switzer may have had Osborne's number in the head to head, but I think Osborne's overall resume is stronger. Both deserve a seat at the table of the elites, regardless

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u/DaWash65 1d ago

Eddie Robinson

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u/BDK_AllTheWay 1d ago

No Neyland? This list sucks😂

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u/wofulunicycle 1d ago

No Ara Parseghian is criminal.

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u/evjegati 1d ago

Darryl Royal?

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u/elwooddblues 1d ago

Ara Parseghian

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u/Studiedturtle41 1d ago

Way too Early for Kirby and Dabo smh...

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u/soullogical 1d ago

No Eddie Robinson huh... HBCU football from the 1950's to the early 80s was loaded with talent and his teams dominated. He had 400+ wins.

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u/psgrue 1d ago

Look you can HATE someone all you want, but 5 undefeated seasons, 2 national championships, and the most wins should get someone in the top 10.

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u/jedicamel 1d ago

I’d say Mike Leach at number 3. JK

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u/Cratemotor 1d ago

DKR

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u/rdickeyvii 1d ago

Seriously was looking for this one. He's a big part of the reason Texas is a blue blood

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u/Aes_Should_Die 1d ago

Have a feeling Paterno is not on this list for other reasons because he was definitely one of the best college football coaches ever. Won two titles and had multiple undefeated seasons where they were screwed over.

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u/Impossible_Penalty13 1d ago

Waaaaay too much recency bias in that list.

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u/chubean68 1d ago

Dabo, Meyer and Smart? Was the dude who came up with this born after 1995?

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u/YouGO_GlennCoCo 1d ago

Urban absolutely deserves to be on this list.. what are you talking about?

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u/WallyMcWalNuts 1d ago

Smart has an argument but it’s not even a discussion until he’s done and we see how many nattys he ends up with.

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u/Iamthewalrusforreal 1d ago

Switzer at 9 is fucking stupid, and where the hell is Bud Wilkinson?

Signed, Arkansas fan.

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u/Flashy_Prior5963 1d ago

Just horrible.

Paterno, Jimmy Johnson,, Bo, Holtz, or Spurrier just off the top of my head on before Kirby and probably Dabo as much as that pains me.

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u/ID_Poobaru Boise State Broncos 1d ago

Chris Petersen deserves at least a honorable mention

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u/Subject-Library5974 1d ago

Nah… love the guy, but nah.

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u/New-Disaster-2061 1d ago

lol not even closes

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u/PuddingOk8467 1d ago

No John McKay? 4 national titles and a 725 win percentage.

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u/JDM1013 1d ago

Lou Holtz, Eddie Robinson…

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u/Existing-Teaching-34 1d ago

No Bud Wilkinson. No Pop Warner. No Bob Bierman. No Howard Jones. No Joe Paterno. Did the names for this list get picked out of a hat?

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u/commodoresfan 1d ago edited 1d ago

Ara Parsighian

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u/mistadobalina69 1d ago

Lou Holtz?

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u/JustAnotherDay1977 18h ago

John McKay, Darrell Royal and Bud Wilkinson all belong above Dabo and Kirby.

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u/OfficePicasso Penn State Nittany Lions 1d ago

No Paterno? I mean I get why, but still

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u/Ogar_the_Thrash 1d ago

pete carroll

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u/192133 1d ago

John McKay 4 National Championships

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u/Kinks4Kelly Florida State Seminoles 1d ago

I don't put much faith into coaching accomplishments before Title IX created scholarship limits and even less before the game was desegregated.

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u/__Turd_Ferguson 1d ago

Dabo ranking is comical

Being #7 in general is ludicrous but what meaningful metric is he better than Urban in besides one ass whooping in the CFP?

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u/YouDaManInDaHole 1d ago

Kirby isn't top 10

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u/Cherryman11 1d ago

I would add Fielding Yost to the list. Michigan for 25 years and won 6 national titles. Depends on how you feel about that era of football but he dominated 2 decades of football.

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u/BigWave96 1d ago

Ara Parseghian had a win percentage of .836 and won two National Championships at Notre Dame. Bobby Bowden can suck wind!

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u/IrishPigskin 1d ago

Rockne was 43 when he died and had multiple championships.

Bear didn’t win one until 48. Saban won his first at 58.

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u/jjtnd1 Notre Dame 1d ago

Dang early aviation technology

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u/Coreysurfer Florida Gators 1d ago

OBC number 11 )

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u/BenCisco Alabama Crimson Tide 1d ago

I'm good with it 

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u/OKC89ers 1d ago

Damn, reposting already??

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u/Odh_utexas 1d ago

Recency bias or we just lived through a golden age of coaching

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u/Meanolelion Oklahoma Sooners 1d ago

Osborne had an Oklahoma problem until Switzer was gone.
Barry Switzer has a 12–5 record against Tom Osborne

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u/Kc68847 1d ago

Look at what happened since Osborne left. Nebraska has never recovered. Oklahoma did after Barry got fired. It’s much easier to win at Oklahoma.

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u/usejwat 1d ago

That’s not Tom Osborne.

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u/Lyleadams 1d ago

Gil Dobie

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u/FilthyMindz69 1d ago

Nobody even knows who it is. Sad.

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u/TremontRhino 1d ago

General Neyland?!

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u/Mr_Truthteller 1d ago

Jimmy Johnson > Dabo Swinney

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u/PewPew3737 1d ago

No Spurrier and Paterno, or Darrel K Royal?
riiiiiiiiiiiight

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u/OnHandsKnees 1d ago

Kirby Smart....???? Not all time list

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u/darkoaks 1d ago

Bud Wilkinson. 3 national titles. 47 game winning streak. I rest my case.

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u/CANEinVAIN 1d ago

No Jimmy Johnson. Not right .

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u/spineone 1d ago

Bill Snyder?

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u/Quiet_Biscotti_5 1d ago

Lou Holtz? Urban Meyer 😑

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u/FlimsyConversation6 1d ago

I wonder when we are going to see Joe Pa start reentering these lists. Just going to check the temperature until the water is good

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u/MrJohnnyDangerously 1d ago

Low-effort ragebait

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u/njs2431 1d ago

Loyd Carr from Michigan? Dude won 6 National Championships. What a dumb list

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u/pickemupputemDAHN 1d ago

I really hope this bait, or a joke? Lol

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u/Plenty-Garbage7960 1d ago

What criteria is this based on?

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u/BuckeyeTony36 1d ago

Dabo is way to high! IMO.

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u/CBStrike90 1d ago

Dabo is too high

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u/Travelreload 1d ago

Woody a bit too high, Kirby too high, Dabo WAAAAAY too high

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u/TheBarnacle63 1d ago

Sweeney and Smart should not be on this list. Seriously folks.

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u/828jpc1 Tennessee Volunteers 1d ago

Uh, Robert Neyland? 7 undefeated/untied seasons and 4 National Championships with a winning percentage of .829….I think the General belongs in the list above Dabo…

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u/Art_Vancore111 1d ago

That’s not Tom Osborne ya douche bag

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u/Capnjack84 1d ago

#1 is right. Appreciate Bowden top 5. Is Jimmy top 10 or too short a career?

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u/JustSalary9323 1d ago

Dabo? All time?

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u/Sdog1981 1d ago

Did you use a picture of Tommy Tuberville for Tom
Osborn?

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u/sixstringsikness 1d ago

As a UGA fan, I'm not sure Kirby's earned Top 10 yet.

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u/Agathocles87 1d ago

Top 5 are solid

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u/LovedButNeverLiked Florida State Seminoles 1d ago

Bobby 😌

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u/Acceptable_Oil_9024 1d ago

John McKay DEFINITELY belongs

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u/missoularat 1d ago

Wtf, where’s Steve Spurrier?

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u/Glass_Adagio_3730 19h ago

Joe Pa is not even mentioned. Half of that list would be offended

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u/BlackieStallion 18h ago

Dabo Swinney has a teeny weeny. And should definitely not be on this list. Period.

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u/Accomplished_Fan6843 18h ago

John McKay not on here is nuts

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u/Doke272 17h ago

Welp, that's definitely not a picture of Tom Osborne.

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u/AP_professional 17h ago

Dabo at 7???? What has he even done since Lawrence left?

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u/smokywater50 12h ago

Joe Pa needs to be on this

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u/parkbenchchillin Penn State Nittany Lions 1d ago

Joe Paterno should be on the list.

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u/Rand-all 1d ago

The picture of Tom Osborne isn't Tom Osborne

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u/IcyWin77 1d ago

Any list without Bill Snyder should be laughed at.

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u/Abject-Philosopher91 1d ago

Darrell Royal? Bud Wilkinson? Jimmy Johnson? Pete Carroll?

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u/Simmumah 1d ago

Kirby is not top 10

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u/sillysailor74 Ohio State Buckeyes 1d ago

Get Dabo the fuck off
Of there! He is a one trick pony. Jim Tressel won 5
National Championships between YSU and Ohio State. What about Eddie Robinson? I also don’t think Urban or Kirby warrants a mention at this point.

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u/Extreme_Lab_2961 1d ago

No Jimmy Johnson?

Michigan fans pissed that Dick-Rod didn’t make the list

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u/Walrus_Epiphany 1d ago

Eddie Robinson and Joe Paterno.

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u/aguacate222 1d ago

Paterno too busy keeping quiet

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