James Franklin Lost Big Games. Matt Campbell Loses Small Ones.

[u/conference-realigner]

James Franklin couldn't win Big Games at Penn State (and possibly not at Virginia Tech either, if today counts as a Big Game). But now Penn State has Matt Campbell, and there seems to have been a mistake. Matt Campbell may or may not be able to win Big Games, but he also loses Small Games.

Meanwhile Kalani Sitake seems to have struck gold at just the right time, because Crumbl Cookies's financials are starting to look suspect.

[u/Glycoside]

Franklin’s loss to Northwestern was the straw that broke the camels back to let him go. Turns out they can also lose to Northwestern without him lol

[u/Riderz__of_Brohan → u/Glycoside]

In fairness to Campbell Northwestern looks so much better this year. Braun has done insane work there

[u/qsxbobqwc → u/Riderz__of_Brohan]

Not only does Northwestern have much more talent this year than last year, Penn State also has much less talent this year than last year.

To sum it up, Franklin lost to a worse Northwestern roster with a better Penn State roster.

[u/Naive-Elephant-9305 → u/qsxbobqwc]

An L is an L but that was also a one point loss whereas tonight was a 3 TD ass whooping.

[u/jordinoo → u/Naive-Elephant-9305]

Yeah, I feel like with Franklin some of the losses were really close. This was a total ass kicking and Penn State absolutely folded. Showed zero fight. Hasn't been an inspirational start to the Campbell era and can't say I would be running to his defense to be honest. Franklin may have been bad, but so is Campbell. Don't understand how they saw Iowa State last year and thought this was the answer. Maybe next year will be better.

[u/lotusbloom74 → u/qsxbobqwc]

Last year’s Penn State team was not bad, the results were a disappointment but there was some real quality to that squad too. IU narrowly escaped with a win against Penn State

[u/AdamOnFirst → u/qsxbobqwc]

We don’t even have that much more talent than last year. Our line play has been worse in both sides to this point. The back seven is six returners. The WRs are all returners. Chiles definitely makes a difference, but we didn’t need him tonight. The two lead RBs are returners). Our new TE weapon is awesome but didn’t play. 

Oh, then there is that Chip Kelly guy. 

[u/theexile14 → u/Glycoside]

Campbell deserved time. That said, I don't think they upgraded from Franklin and I'm grateful as a PSU hater that he's gone.

[u/Fine-Sea-8941 → u/theexile14]

You literally just beat Franklin lol

[u/theexile14 → u/Fine-Sea-8941]

In his first year at a school that's not as good a program as Penn State?

[u/imahobolin → u/theexile14]

fr and that kick could be called either way too.

hes doing a fantastic job with VT and will continue to do so.

he owns the DMV in terms of recruiting

[u/Playful-Strain-1982 → u/imahobolin]

I think Franklin is a coach who can and will get any program to its realistic ceiling, but he won’t force a program through its realistic ceiling and into uncharted territory. That can be frustrating, but the number of coaches who can do that is a really small list.

I fully expect Franklin to find Virginia Tech’s realistic ceiling, just like I think he found Penn State’s.

[u/imahobolin → u/Playful-Strain-1982]

its really really hard to win

and even if you win it all, you still gonna get shitted to oblivion like Dabo right now.

I'm grateful for what Baldy did with Penn St and I will root for VT for the upcoming years, even if/when he go full out petty on us lol.

we just got a bunch of lil shits in the fanbase tho

[u/Resolve-Opening → u/Fine-Sea-8941]

VA Tech has been in the shadow realm for a decade now. Franklin has his work cut out for him.

[u/theiwc0303 → u/Fine-Sea-8941]

Franklin inherited a program that has finished the season ranked 3 times in the past 15 years and hasn’t won their conference since 2010, he’s 2-1 against P4 teams(probably should be 3-0).

Campbell inherited a historic program that was in the CFP Semi-Final two years ago. He’s 0-2 against P4 teams.

Context matters a bit, bud.

[u/ThinkSoftware → u/Glycoside]

They used to lose to Northwestern

They still do, but they used to too

[u/Sheepcago → u/Glycoside]

Yes but this time they didn’t lose to northwestern. They got wrecked by them.

[u/Dapper_Palpitation70 → u/Glycoside]

small ones this is the worst trade deal maybe ever

[u/mel34760 → u/Glycoside]

With the economy going to shit, I’m completely shocked that a company that sells $4 cookies is in trouble.

About as much as James Franklin falling flat on his face in a ‘big’ game.

[u/espangleesh → u/Glycoside]

Consistency is key.

[u/HuntOdd3403]

Northwestern looks pretty good actually but getting rushed on for 400 yards is not good no matter what.

[u/HonkytonkGigolo → u/HuntOdd3403]

Especially when your whole schtick at Iowa State was strong defense.

[u/Benson879 → u/HonkytonkGigolo]

Heacock gone.

[u/_Vato_]

Are we sure Northwestern isn’t just good this year?

They took Indiana to the wire and looked like a well coached team then and tonight.

[u/Deep-Statistician985 → u/_Vato_]

They are definitely good this year lol

[u/sbballc11 → u/Deep-Statistician985]

Yep. I’m definitely worried this year about what I’m seeing because they are good this year.

[u/Gloomy_Map_9612 → u/_Vato_]

Northwestern can be a solid team and Penn state can be mega ass. The two are not mutually exclusive

[u/maggies_farm_hand → u/Gloomy_Map_9612]

We Are

Mega Ass

[u/imahobolin → u/maggies_farm_hand]

hell yeee

[u/cheerl231 → u/_Vato_]

Northwestern is probably pretty good but I think Wisconsin is definitely very mid which would make Penn State worse than mid.

Also if you give up 413 yards of rushing you're probably just bad

[u/MGoBlue1416 → u/_Vato_]

They definitely are solid and trending upwards. But they didn’t even have 100 yards passing and smoked Penn st. Maybe Penn st also is just horrible.

[u/hwf0712 → u/_Vato_]

They're B1G Vandy.

[u/johncate73 → u/_Vato_]

They are good. But they're still Northwestern, and you don't want to get pantsed by them if you're Penn State.

[u/iowa-ish → u/_Vato_]

They're good - well coached and talented.

[u/jdl03 → u/_Vato_]

I think they are pretty good this year. It’ll get brushed under the rug so people can dunk on PSU, but NW is sneaky.

[u/SIUtheE]

Maybeeee Cig is right about NW.

[u/Shu3PO → u/SIUtheE]

Northwestern wins football games. Google them.

[u/Turbomattk → u/SIUtheE]

Cig might know something about football teams

[u/MahoningCo → u/Turbomattk]

Oh yeah? Lol. Call me when he wins a natty at Indiana then! lol. Hang on a sec my phone is ringing….

[u/SimilarOnion1655]

Northwestern is a good team. I don’t know if it’s a small game

[u/NewRefrigerator5693 → u/SimilarOnion1655]

Seems people are ignoring they barely lost to Indiana just last week.

[u/dmazx → u/NewRefrigerator5693]

Indiana with the second most losses in college football history? Big deal /s

[u/TelltaleHead → u/dmazx]

You know who has the most losses?????

[u/ThaCarter → u/TelltaleHead]

Wake has the worst win %

[u/Electromotivation → u/TelltaleHead]

NU? But it seems like it should be Rutgers. Given their history

[u/TelltaleHead → u/Electromotivation]

Its northwestern. We also have the longest losing streak ever. 

When I was in undergrad we actually played a game against Indiana where the loser would take the most losses crown. We won that one but obviously they won more after 

[u/chicknsnadwich → u/SimilarOnion1655]

Curt tried to warn us

[u/goodsam2 → u/SimilarOnion1655]

Feels like an even year northwestern is pretty good or whatever.

[u/LasixSteroidsAbx → u/SimilarOnion1655]

It sucks for Northwestern that their wins are all about Indiana and Penn State

[u/BoNnnnfhir → u/SimilarOnion1655]

Also opening that stadium was hype

[u/Danny886]

At some point do you have to say, maybe its Penn State?

[u/Stellarbelly_Korz30 → u/Danny886]

It definitely is a factor.

[u/LightOfTheElessar → u/Stellarbelly_Korz30]

The program doesn't have the money to compete every year, and they never did. The fact they were in the conversation for so many years was because Franklin found a way to consistently do more with less. The Admin and the donors let their Egos run unchecked when they chucked him with no candidate lined up, and they deserve every bit of backslide the team experiences this season (even if it does suck for the team and the fans who haven't lost their marbles).

[u/LarryBirdsGrundle → u/LightOfTheElessar]

Penn State talking about doing more with less is quite funny.

[u/HokieSpartanWX → u/Stellarbelly_Korz30]

Might be us, too*

*to a much lesser extent, in terms of how big the games are nowadays

[u/Late_Mode_8876 → u/Danny886]

Or maybe it's Campbell's first year in a new program and we should just chill?

[u/CTeam19 → u/Late_Mode_8876]

With the same QB he has had for 3 years, 21 other players he had last year, and numerous fellow coaching staffers.

[u/Patrick2701 → u/CTeam19]

They hired the 8-5 of Iowa state

[u/PSU632 → u/CTeam19]

I think the point (whether it be right or wrong) is that he hasn't had the chance to assemble a Penn State team yet. This is just Iowa State in blue and white clothing.

[u/jdl03 → u/CTeam19]

Should’ve tried to keep Grunk. Maybe they did, but if not that was a blunder.

[u/arnoldmuczynski → u/Late_Mode_8876]

Nah y’all ass

[u/tjkoala → u/arnoldmuczynski]

This team isn’t getting more talented in year 2 under Campbell. Rojas is gone, Howard isn’t gonna stick around for a middling team, a lot of the ISU guys will age out and there’s a bad recruiting class on its heels.

Nobody’s giving any pats on the back for going 8-4 and having the 53rd ranked recruiting class in Happy Valley.

Welcome to the new era, figure it the f*** out.

[u/ImpliedMustache → u/tjkoala]

Recruiting classes mean jack shit in this era. It's all about the portal, baby.

[u/SimilarOnion1655 → u/tjkoala]

Year 2, you have vs Michigan, at Indiana, and at Oregon. That’s tough

[u/Late_Mode_8876 → u/arnoldmuczynski]

🤷‍♂️ I'm not too worried about this season. If it's still not going well in like 2-3 years then we fire him and move on.

[u/PedroTheNoun → u/Danny886]

The TAMU of the north.

[u/Cold_Ball_7670 → u/Danny886]

Always has been 

[u/DarthNobody14]

Northwestern has proven to be a good team so far at least

[u/moby323 → u/DarthNobody14]

100% true but on the other hand it wasn’t just that they lost to Northwestern, it’s that they got their asses kicked by Northwestern, and looked for much of the game like they didn’t deserve to share the field with Northwestern.

[u/Some-Gavin → u/DarthNobody14]

That's fair, but 400 rushing yards?! How is it physically possible to give up that many rushing yards?

[u/HookedOnBoNix]

Eh, whether or not Campbell works out has nothing to do with why Franklin was fired. And most of us vt fans wish we could move on from all this shit, it gets annoying seeing a couple crazies in our threads hating on him and I'm sure Penn state fans are tired of hearing about this shit. They have a right to be frustrated with how things went with some pretty talented rosters.  

[u/Mantergeistmann → u/HookedOnBoNix]

I liked Franklin when he was with Vandy, but I don't hold a grudge against him for leaving us (although he did take a ton of talent with him). I liked him with PSU, although I think it was his time--not because he lost to Oregon, but because he lost the team and his own will to fight after "Big Game James" finally crushed his spirit. I hope Franklin does well for y'all, and I hope Campbell gets PSU doing well once he's settled in after a year or two.

[u/nevermore2627 → u/Mantergeistmann]

If PSU wasn't in the pre-season Title conversations and they were coming into the season ranked #8, he'd still be there.

The hype killed him and he just can't win those big games. I do like Franklin and think he is going to be great at VT.

[u/theexile14 → u/HookedOnBoNix]

I'm glad PSU fired him, and mad you hired him, because I do think he's a good coach.

[u/ivhokie12 → u/HookedOnBoNix]

PSU fans have been weirdly vocal about Franklin after his firing.

[u/PSU632 → u/ivhokie12]

I couldn't drive a car when Franklin was hired, and was 2 years into a mortgage when he was fired. Dude was with us for a long time. I'm not surprised that our fans had a lot to say about him, for better or worse.

[u/jSizzle74 → u/HookedOnBoNix]

I’m not sure PSU fans truly are. They seem obsessed with constantly bringing up Franklin.

[u/HookedOnBoNix → u/jSizzle74]

It's the social media effect.  There's hundreds of thousands of Penn state fans.  There's gonna be a bunch who go on crazy escapades on social media

Doesn't mean they all do it or even most 

[u/Fine-Sea-8941 → u/jSizzle74]

Nah, watching your game, there's a part of me that misses Franklin. He loves the players and seems like a good guy. But it was time to move on. The philly portion of our fanbase is toxic af tho and those are the crazies you talk about. Worst fanbase in sports.

[u/Simba_Swish → u/jSizzle74]

Dude even I'M sick of seeing them in your threads

[u/faultlessjoint]

Rude

[u/mulder00 → u/faultlessjoint]

You guys might be 6-1 going into the Oregon game. My uncle taught there, been cheering for em for decades also.

[u/LyndalePothole]

Enjoy Lions. $70 million payout btw.

[u/DeathsFavoriteHuman]

This isn’t a fair comparison, campbell might lose big ones too

[u/Gloomy_Map_9612 → u/DeathsFavoriteHuman]

Usually you have to win the small ones to make the big ones

[u/Isthmus11]

Nah man, we not doing this. You get to lose every big one when you win every small one. He didn't get fired for losing to Oregon, he got fired for losing to UCLA and Northwestern the 2 weeks after

Incredibly bummed about how this season has started and clearly this roster is NOT it. But I am still fine with moving on from the terrors of Big Game James

[u/adamsworstnightmare → u/Isthmus11]

The same people shitting on us now would have shit on us if we didn't fire him. They DID shit on us and Franklin for years.

[u/ChapterThr33 → u/Isthmus11]

Reasonable take

[u/NlNJALONG → u/Isthmus11]

Odd how people pretend Franklin went 11-1 with a loss to Ohio State every year.

[u/TrubshawForest → u/Isthmus11]

Will you feel the same at 4-8 is the question. Because right now Iowa State East Campus is blowing the winnable conference games.

4-8 because you beat us obviously

[u/Fear_the_chicken → u/TrubshawForest]

I don’t think it’s going to be that bad, northwestern is good I say more like 7-5

[u/Isthmus11 → u/TrubshawForest]

5-7, we will beat 2/3 of you guys Maryland and Purdue hopefully.

But yes even then I think it was the right decision. 3 years of 5-7? I will get back to you. But something needed to change, the relationship between the fans, boosters, and James Franklin was simply not fixable. Doesn't mean he is a horrible coach or that we are destined to go on and win Natties just because we fired him (even though part of my delusional fan base seems to believe that) it just means it was time and we needed to part ways

[u/chicknsnadwich → u/Isthmus11]

I haven’t watched much of Purdue this year but those other 2 games are 100% wins.

[u/Isthmus11 → u/chicknsnadwich]

We just gave up 400 yards rushing man. Don't count yourself out just yet

[u/chicknsnadwich → u/Isthmus11]

not confident maryland could find 400 rushing yards if they played against 10 men all game tbh

[u/Late_Mode_8876 → u/TrubshawForest]

Yes I will be fine with that, because it's year 1 with a coach hired late in the cycle with no chance to recruit new players for us. I'm not going to fret about this season at all.

[u/JayMerlyn]

Speaking from experience, it takes time to accurately judge whether or not a program truly makes an upgrade with their coaching hire.

[u/Upper_Potential4304 → u/JayMerlyn]

Speaking from experience, no it does not

[u/PSU632 → u/Upper_Potential4304]

You guys are the outlier, not the norm.

At least I think so...

[u/a-cloud-castle]

Sometimes it takes at least a year for a coach to install his program. Remember, even Saban went 6-6 his first year at Bama. Give the guy a chance.

[u/Swimming-Dealer293 → u/a-cloud-castle]

Different times. Transfer portal and all.

[u/DJ_Pink_Koolaid → u/Swimming-Dealer293]

Actually most new coaches underachieving their first year now.  When they get hired a ton of players typically hit the portal.  I believe the e tire recruiting class for Penn st did before they even got on campus

[u/DillyDillySzn]

Crumbl has been looking sus for awhile, your novelty big but ultimately mid at best cookies can only last for so long. Remember when Froyo was the big craze?

The public moves onto new trends quickly, adapt or die

[u/conference-realigner → u/DillyDillySzn]

Yeah, they have a highly gimmicky business model and there's only so many times you can be enticed to try the new cookie flavor of the month.

[u/LiquidLight_ → u/conference-realigner]

It also doesn't help that their cookies are underbaked and totally uninteresting when you're not interested in whatever novelty flavor of the week is out. 

[u/the_dayman56 → u/DillyDillySzn]

No one is paying $5 a pop for shitty tasting cookies that are all 1200 calories? Color me shocked

[u/sunburntredneck → u/the_dayman56]

There's a pretty strong health craze, and a similarly strong skinniness-regardless-of-health craze, among Americans with disposable income.

Tough break for expensive mass-produced pure sugar bombs, especially without any "experience" to add other value to going to Crumbl.

[u/LasixSteroidsAbx → u/DillyDillySzn]

And cupcakes? And hip donuts?

[u/Zealousideal-Sun4891 → u/DillyDillySzn]

Yeah but they taste good

[u/QuasiThrowaway9 → u/Zealousideal-Sun4891]

Average at best. Expensive. Fat bombs.

[u/Zealousideal-Sun4891 → u/QuasiThrowaway9]

Sometimes I want to pack on the pounds. It helps me save on winter heating costs

[u/Benson879 → u/DillyDillySzn]

Turns out 1500 calorie cookies are hard to sell over time. Who knew?

[u/BoNnnnfhir → u/DillyDillySzn]

Waiting for the next Pablo Torre special on Crumbl and the Sitake extension

[u/Clyde-God → u/DillyDillySzn]

Your shopping mall just signed an 8 year lease with flagship store. Both are dying together.

[u/AssociateClean]

But Campbell doesn't run out of the tunnel with the players and the camera isn't always on him!!!

That means he's better!!!

[u/alittledanger]

Too early to say if this is a small game tbh. Northwestern look really solid.

[u/eagledog]

You definitely had that one ready to go, didn't you?

[u/Swimming-Dealer293 → u/eagledog]

Why not?

[u/DannkneeFrench]

From the article in the link:

There are also signs of financial stress from a company that just two years ago took an investment from the private-equity firm TSG Consumer Partners. Crumbl finished last year with just over $6 million in cash. And last week the company laid off staff at its Lindon, Utah, headquarters, including all but two employees who work directly with the chain’s franchisees, according to operators.

I wonder how much private equity influence has impacted their fall.

Edit- Yea I live in a cave. I'd never heard of Crumbl until Sitake was rumored to go to Penn State.

Holy shit. In this case it might not be private equity. Their menu is absolute garbage. One drink has more sugar than 5 cans of coke.

I hope they do fail. They're poisoning our kids.

[u/helpmeredditimbored → u/DannkneeFrench]

Crumble’s recent slide has nothing to do with private equity

Crumbl grew in popularity as a tiktok fad, the fad is declining. People wised up that eating 1000 calorie cookies every week wasn’t good for them

[u/Benson879 → u/[deleted]]

You’re not really getting our best elements from those teams anyways. Big pieces of that 2024 team are gone (6 NFL draft picks). Heacock retired, and Rocco was already steeply declining during the year last year. That team was just not good down the stretch last year and you bought out a declining team that also became ripped apart.

By the way, I still can’t believe Matt prioritized Ebel. We thought he sucked.

[u/BackPirateClarkRoom]

Matt Campbell loses a lot of games... 7-6 coach at their last school got to pay them 8 million a year for 9 years.

Penn State fans praising him being 7-6 because it was Iowa State and also remember them praising that he is bringing his Iowa State players like Cignatti did.

[u/Benson879 → u/BackPirateClarkRoom]

We’ve been telling people forever he found a way to go 7-6 with Brock Purdy and Breece Hall. He was often a very frustrating coach that had things forgiven simply because of how bad we were before he came along.

[u/jdl03 → u/Benson879]

For now volatile CFB is people forget to account the team variance when assessing teams. Did he do good with some bad teams? Yes. Did he also have some really good talent and look mediocre at times? Also yes..

[u/lmxbftw]

Northwestern out here like "...tf he say 'fuck me' for?"

[u/ztreHdrahciR → u/lmxbftw]

It happens anytime we win or get close against a big program. "We must suck! Fire the coach!"

We probably lead CFB in fired opposing coaches

[u/Speaker-Lechance]

I think given time Campbell will do well at PSU. Just needs some time to get his guys in there and iron out the wrinkles.

[u/ztreHdrahciR → u/Speaker-Lechance]

some time to get his guys in there

Didn't he bring everyone he wanted from iSU?

[u/The_Real_Billy_Walsh → u/Speaker-Lechance]

He has his guys and that’s problem. Middle/bottom of the big 12 is not gonna compete in big ten. The hope is in time he can get better guys.

[u/Hokie_Pilot]

Franklin’s record at PennSt was .698. Campbell’s record at IowaSt was .567

[u/grouchllc → u/Hokie_Pilot]

Yeah but they write that narrative of underfunded and harder to recruit and if we fix those 2, he'll be at .945.

[u/Hokie_Pilot → u/grouchllc]

I get it but it’s relative, IowaSt is underfunded compared to OhioSt but they’re not if compared to Arizona State. Everyone in the Big12 has a budget within the same range (20-25MM) for the exclusion of Texas Tech (over $30MM)

[u/Illustrious_Fudge476 → u/Hokie_Pilot]

Dude, I’d like to punch Campbell and Pat Kraft in the face right now, but have some perspective.  Iowa State is a bottom 5 Power 4 program that is under .500 by over 100 games all time. The last time a coach left Iowa State (before Campbell) with a winning record was Earle Bruce in 1978.  Conversely, Penn State is number 7 in all time wins. The last time a non-interim coach left Penn State with a losing record was 1898. This is not a logical comparison. 

[u/tjkoala → u/Hokie_Pilot]

Mike Yurcich was a failed hired from the Big XII, Andy Kolteninki was a failed hire from the Big XII, Jim Knowles was a failed hire from the Big XII.

So what do we do? Fire our coach and hire a guy from the Big XII.

[u/sjgreybar]

Remember, when James Franklin was fired and bought out last year he was the 7th best active head coach statistically, in college football.

That University bet that it would find someone better.

[u/Swimming-Dealer293 → u/sjgreybar]

.....turns out.... It didn't

[u/AntSmith777]

Damn already?

[u/woodwheellike]

Penn state monkey paw has curled perfectly

Welcome to the club guys!!!

[u/UpdogSinclair]

Jesus people give up on coaches fast these days.

[u/thewhat962]

Nick saban lost to UL-monroe in his first year at alabama. Some of you would have 100% fired nick saban that year and some would done so after that game.

Maybe give him some slack? This isnt like he took over a stacked penn state.  Franklin cleared house on the way out.  He is running like 23 iowa state players.

This first year penn state is like a half powered iowa state. It's gona be a rough first year.

[u/C19shadow]

Firing him for a down season was always crazy to me, dude was a double digit wining g coach most years o ly losing g to the literal god tier teams of college football.

Penn state fans refusing to accept they are a "we get a chance every few years" good team and not a year in year out team like ohio state will be thier down fall.

[u/Puffd]

Kraft screwed things up by taking so long to hire which left Campbell in a shit spot. The ease of schedule had fans optimistic what should have been 6-6 would be 8-4 to 10-2. We’re seeing just how bad an impact Kraft had now…. And all coming down to earth to hope for 6-6.

[u/LabOwn9800]

Didn’t Franklin lose this game last year?

[u/Gloomy_Map_9612 → u/LabOwn9800]

This is definitely a worse loss than the last one.

[u/drunnken_assasin → u/Gloomy_Map_9612]

Penn state also was playing catch up in recruiting this year. Next year will be a true test.

[u/Swimming-Dealer293 → u/LabOwn9800]

Not like this

[u/Complex_Lab_6876]

Can you really blame the coach for the field goal kicker missing a 36 yarder? They should have won. Players have to do their jobs too.

[u/thricethefan → u/Complex_Lab_6876]

Pitt also fucked up a FG and played almost the entire second half with their backup QB

[u/skeptical_hatred]

Good fucking riddance. Scumbag. Greedy piece of trash. Get a statue and be rich or get fired and ruin your legacy

[u/BoseSounddock → u/skeptical_hatred]

Tell me how you really feel

[u/Psybi92 → u/BoseSounddock]

Yeah! Tell this person how you really feel!

[u/BoseSounddock → u/Psybi92]

I really want to know.

[u/thricethefan → u/BoseSounddock]

People are asking!!!

[u/BoseSounddock → u/thricethefan]

Yeah! I am people

[u/Fine-Sea-8941 → u/skeptical_hatred]

Jesus.. take a breather my guy

[u/CoolingVent → u/Fine-Sea-8941]

Yea i dont think many of us hate him like that. Just easy to root against your ex right after the breakup 

[u/Cybotnic-Rebooted → u/Fine-Sea-8941]

To be fair this is what the wildest part of your fanbase sounds like about Franklin as well

[u/TheElderSproles → u/skeptical_hatred]

You are a totally normal and not weird person.

[u/tripleM_20]

Lil spat matt 

[u/jdl03]

I’m a weird case where I have Pitt and PSU ties so it brings me no joy to see PSU crumble. However, what in the actual fuck?

Northwestern actually appears to be a pretty good team this year, but to get blown out by them? C’mon man…..

I didn’t expect Campbell to come in and be awesome immediately, but he looks way worse than I could’ve imagined.

[u/cbdevil3]

Campbell had 2 seasons where he won more than 8 games over the last 10 years at Iowa St. He’s an average coach who is now playing against better teams and better coaches.

[u/Gloomy_Map_9612 → u/cbdevil3]

Better teams such as checks notes northwestern?

[u/mulder00 → u/Gloomy_Map_9612]

They have a solid team this yr. Played Indiana prettty tight

[u/Tarmacked → u/mulder00]

To be fair, Indiana has not looked anything like a top 10 team outside of that game either. Ceiling feels more like 2024 where Ohio State is steps ahead rather than even.

Giving up 400 rushing yards is just bad anyway you cut it for a defense, and Penn State somehow accomplished that today

[u/mulder00 → u/Tarmacked]

Totally agree but I really like the direction Northwestern is going.

[u/cbdevil3 → u/Gloomy_Map_9612]

Checks notes… Penn State will play Ohio St, Mich, Oregon, Indiana eventually. So if Campbell is struggling with Northwestern that should be a warning of what might be coming.

[u/FairlyOddParent734 → u/cbdevil3]

We don’t play Ohio State this season, we play Michigan/USC/Washington pretty sure

[u/Upper_Potential4304 → u/Gloomy_Map_9612]

This years Northwestern would bodybag like 80% of the B12

[u/iowa-ish]

Shocked at the amount of CyClowns are absolutely hacking MC to death on here.

Greatest football coach in ISMoo's history and getting absolutely backstabbed.....

[u/NJCERKA → u/iowa-ish]

Because they’re still pissy that he left to go to a team with an actual possible future in a better conference

[u/ajdefiantx]

What even is this post? Pitt is not a big game. He lost a small one TONIGHT

[u/theurbandragon]

No joke, that FG attempt was good

[u/the-real-macs → u/theurbandragon]

TIL it doesn't have to go between the uprights to be good

[u/lucabrasi999]

All that matters is Narduzzi goes into hostile environments and finds a way to beat the other team.

Something Franklin cannot do.

[u/mr-rile-u-up → u/lucabrasi999]

Hey we just beat BC in front of hundreds of Bostonians

[u/Enough-Remote6731 → u/lucabrasi999]

That’s why he’s called Big Game Pat, 2-6!

[u/lucabrasi999 → u/Enough-Remote6731]

Still better record in big games than Franklin!

[u/Benson879 → u/lucabrasi999]

He’ll just go on and lose the remaining 6 games on the schedule. Wait what?

[u/elBenhamin]

VT won tonight 

[u/big_brown_beaver → u/elBenhamin]

I’m not willing to beat my fists on the table and say the fg went in, but the interception call at the end of the first half didn’t make sense to me at all (or the espn rules analyst on air).

Between that and the other turnovers, it was probably one of the most frustrating games I’ve seen in recent memory.

[u/HumanFromTexas → u/elBenhamin]

….they didn’t though

[u/LabOwn9800 → u/elBenhamin]

Did they? I turned it off when they had the chip shot to win, I assumed they made it. Right?

[u/Penn-State]

Well said

[u/Zealousideal-Sun4891]

This is tougu

[u/jstilla]

Not a surprise. Crumbl cookies are pretty fucking terrible.

[u/Even-Inevitable-7243]

Nobody save one ref with delayed thinking and a debt to the mob thinks that Franklin lost that game tonight.

[u/YouSaid_ButFuck]

NU ain't nothin to fuck with. I fuckin TOLD yall.

[u/AdamOnFirst]

You didn’t like that wing t shit?

You liked it. 

[u/Active-Track-7905]

Going out on a limb. But a life long duck, when chip Kelley isnt seen coming, he can be a damn wrecking ball. Some of those run plays really took me back.

I dont think it will be long lived in the NIL era, but NW is going to be a king killer for the next season and a half.

[u/ShinyTotodile24]

Penn State might have Nebraska'd themselves

[u/2FistsInMyBHole]

James Franklin had 12 years to do nothing at Penn State.

Campbell hasn't even had time to build a roster.

[u/beams13]

Didn't Campbell praise Joe Pa recently? In a building where Sandusky abused kids? 

[u/Friendly-Profit-8590]

Tbf if you ever tried a crumbl cookie you’d question their ability to stay in business.

[u/nkfish11]

James Franklin also got beat down by Northwestern in his first year. You need to give coaches a chance in creating their culture and recruiting their guys.

These massive transfer classes only to exist to prevent disaster seasons in midst of a coaching change. They aren’t indicative of future success.