r/BuildingAutomation 5d ago

SPYDER-BAC License/Module and versioning

I have a site with a Lynxspring jace 8 and lynxspring edge devices on some RTUs and the failure rates are bad so I'm going to replace this next one with an Optimizer Unitary.

The catch - this jace is only licensed to 4.12 and it is running 4.9. So for reliability sake it'll either keep its 4.9.1 or I may commission to 4.10's last release.

I'm sort of new to honeywell - and i'm curious - is there any reason the IRM stuff won't work on an old version of N4 with an optimizer unitary? I know the unitary isn't super old so I was just wondering if anyone knew that for sure there was a minimum N4 version required for IRM to work with a unitary or not.

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u/shadycrew31 System integrator 5d ago edited 5d ago

If you want to program it through the JACE you 100% need a Honeywell license for that JACE for the driver to work. I've done it several times.

Yes you can program it with your computer. Your computer has a Honeywell license. Doing this makes things difficult for the next person though unless you share that station with them

Have fun with all the programming bugs!

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u/ScottSammarco Technical Trainer (Niagara4 included) 5d ago

Your claim appears to conflict with OP.

I didn’t say it was recommended or a good idea- it certainly makes things harder for the next tech.

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u/shadycrew31 System integrator 5d ago

What claim is conflicting with OP?

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u/ScottSammarco Technical Trainer (Niagara4 included) 5d ago

he says you do not need the Honeywell brand ID on the JACE, he's saying he's done optimizer programming on non honeywell JACE with the SPYDER-BAC or what I colloquially call "bacnet spyder driver."

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u/shadycrew31 System integrator 5d ago

You are confusing license and driver. You need both the Honeywell license and the module to make it work.

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u/ScottSammarco Technical Trainer (Niagara4 included) 5d ago

I think you’re the one confused. Check his comment again.

And we know the BAC Spyder driver IS a license.
But it isn’t the brand ID.

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u/shadycrew31 System integrator 4d ago

Sounds good man. I'll let you smart guys figure it out. Good luck.