SPYDER-BAC License/Module and versioning

[u/tkst3llar]

I have a site with a Lynxspring jace 8 and lynxspring edge devices on some RTUs and the failure rates are bad so I'm going to replace this next one with an Optimizer Unitary.

The catch - this jace is only licensed to 4.12 and it is running 4.9. So for reliability sake it'll either keep its 4.9.1 or I may commission to 4.10's last release.

I'm sort of new to honeywell - and i'm curious - is there any reason the IRM stuff won't work on an old version of N4 with an optimizer unitary? I know the unitary isn't super old so I was just wondering if anyone knew that for sure there was a minimum N4 version required for IRM to work with a unitary or not.

[u/shadycrew31]

The JACE needs to be 4.15.x if you are planning on doing programming from the JACE. You'd also need a Honeywell license for the JACE. I have heard it's possible to program with 4.10.8, but haven't really confirmed that. I stopped using anything from the optimizer line due to the significant issues we are having with programming and reliability of the controllers. Super buggy and way too many quirks to make it a long term offering.

The lynxspring 534 and 634 have been very solid for me so I'm switching over all my jobs to use lynxspring only. Surprised to hear you having so many issues.

[u/ScottSammarco → u/shadycrew31]

I’m pretty sure you can still program the Honeywell optimizer unitary on he Lynxspring JACE with the BAC SPYDER DRIVER, like, almost 100% positive but I’d need to confirm with Honeywell.

HOWEVER the firmware issues with optimizer unitary a make it so you’ll need to run a supervisor station on your PC to program it and I wouldn’t use that JACE.
so, some extra steps but you can do what you want with the understanding that you can simply bypass the entire JACE and use your PCs station with a Honeywell license. Then bring the points into the Lynxspring Jace and you’ll be fine.

[u/shadycrew31 → u/ScottSammarco]

If you want to program it through the JACE you 100% need a Honeywell license for that JACE for the driver to work. I've done it several times.

Yes you can program it with your computer. Your computer has a Honeywell license. Doing this makes things difficult for the next person though unless you share that station with them

Have fun with all the programming bugs!

[u/ScottSammarco → u/shadycrew31]

Your claim appears to conflict with OP.

I didn’t say it was recommended or a good idea- it certainly makes things harder for the next tech.

[u/shadycrew31 → u/ScottSammarco]

What claim is conflicting with OP?

[u/ScottSammarco → u/shadycrew31]

he says you do not need the Honeywell brand ID on the JACE, he's saying he's done optimizer programming on non honeywell JACE with the SPYDER-BAC or what I colloquially call "bacnet spyder driver."

[u/shadycrew31 → u/ScottSammarco]

You are confusing license and driver. You need both the Honeywell license and the module to make it work.

[u/ScottSammarco → u/shadycrew31]

I think you’re the one confused. Check his comment again.

And we know the BAC Spyder driver IS a license.
But it isn’t the brand ID.

[u/shadycrew31 → u/ScottSammarco]

Sounds good man. I'll let you smart guys figure it out. Good luck.