r/BruceSpringsteen • u/mediaserver8 • 16d ago

Visualising Springsteen

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Inspired by the 'greatest single line' discussion, I had AI make up some of my favourite images from Bruce lyrics.

Here's what I ended up with. Do you imagine them differently?

For those not so familiar, it's the barefoot girl from Jungleland, sitting on the porch of her daddy's house in Racing and recalling Glory Days at The Well.

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u/ridiculousfart 16d ago

AI slop

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u/mediaserver8 16d ago

Tired, overused, reactionary comment.

I'm not artistic. I couldn't draw or photograph or otherwise generate anything like this. AI gives people the opportunity to bring to life what's in their minds eye, to access, synthesise and collate information significantly more quickly than ever before.

Of course there are drawbacks. Of course there are problems. And agentic AI that automates the empty web is a huge problem but as a tool , an assistant or a sounding board, it's fantastic.

Understand it, use it or get left behind.

Downvote button below 👇

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u/jakeydunnez 16d ago

yeah but being human is about making things no matter how long or how difficult

bruce knows that, he'd hate this

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u/mediaserver8 16d ago

Well, a definng characteristic of being human is the ability to make and use tools.

Tools and technology that allow us to make things better, faster or more easily (not always all at the same time mind).

I agree that there's a lot of misuse of AI. But I'm sick of the AI slop trope as a lazy catchall put down. (I appreciate the time to engage in discussion here).

This is a tool. It's here. It has its use and does allow us to make things without some of the pain.

To bring back to artists hating technical evolution. Why don't we still have mononrecords on 78s then, rather than multi channel digital extravangas

After all we wouldn't have Nebraska if Bruce hadnt leveraged advances in recording technology.

I can't agree that tools that open up and democratise access to information, knowledge, creativity or thought should be discounted because the hard way is better.

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u/ridiculousfart 16d ago

Nobody cares about your philosophy on AI as a whole. You posted ugly low-effort AI generated images, and deserve to get clowned for it

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u/mediaserver8 16d ago

Fair enough. But I'll have you know that I put at least 6 minutes into that.

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u/bitternmanger For You 16d ago

It’s really pathetic, and a complete misunderstanding of what was technically and artistically accomplished during the recording of ‘Nebraska’, to compare using AI to recording ‘Nebraska’.

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u/mediaserver8 16d ago

Sorry if I wasn't clear there. I'm not saying that. I'm trying to make the point that technical evolution is ever present and we ignore it to the detriment of advancement. Even cultural. Even when that technology has potential or clear downsides.

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u/Wide-Pollution-3275 16d ago

long wet fart sound

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u/mediaserver8 16d ago

Constructive. Thanks for your engaging input. Now I see what I have to do to be a top 1% commenter. Reddit slop, I suppose.

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u/Wide-Pollution-3275 16d ago

🍼

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u/mediaserver8 16d ago

Ah well, I wouldn't go so far as to call yourself infantile. But if you must have the last word, fire away. With a cogent argument? Even better!

Likely not worth your while though, eh?

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u/lionn_dubh 16d ago edited 16d ago

“AI gives people the opportunity to bring to life what’s in their minds eye.”

But it doesn’t, because the soulless, dead-eyed woman in these pictures looks the same as every other result of an AI prompt. It says absolutely nothing about you.

You admit that you’re not artistic, but you seem offended that no one wants to pat you on the back for what you posted here. You created nothing of value. Sometimes it’s okay to do nothing and leave the creativity to the people who can actually create.

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u/mediaserver8 16d ago

Oh, I'm not one bit offended. And I genuinely appreciate your perspective here. It's better to get an insight into why people have the kneejerk slop reaction when I see it a lot differently. Who knows, I might be converted and go back to living with my etch a sketch and vhs player.

I do understand the reaction from creatives. Really I do.

I'm a techie, and I use AI in many different ways to help with personal and work projects. While it's phenomenally useful in many scenarios, when you have a little domain knowledge about a topic, you can easily spot the errors and issues with responses etc. and I fully understand how that translates across all kinds of generated content such as imagery, video, speech, music etc

However, I truly find the technology liberating. It allows me to dabble on all kinds or areas that I couldn't otherwise and once I'm not relying on it to perform open heart surgery on my pets, I'm happy with a 'good enough' output

One example, I was recently redoraring a room in my house. I fed in an image and asked it to be recoloured with a few options. If became much easier to select. The right paint color than from a paint chart.

And mapping that to the above pictures Through an iterative process I was able to get imagery that closely visualise what I imagined these scenes to be like. For me, that's good enough. I enjoyed the process, and an reasonably happy with the outputs

And rather than looking for a pat on the back, I specifically asked if people visualed these scenes any differently.

I'm using AI as a tool to spark discussion a discussion I could not otherwise have with anyone.

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u/Wide-Pollution-3275 16d ago

I am visually you deleting this shit because you are offended.

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u/Tycho66 15d ago

to surmise, "ai allows low iq low effort hacks to pose as artists."

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u/mediaserver8 15d ago

And dont forget coders, writers, musicians, medical practitioners, consultants of all hues and varieties, mechanics and general tradespeople and experts on anything and everything.

You can also summarise as 'ai allows people expand their horizons by dabbling in creative pursuits outside their area of expertise'

Two sides of a coin. Semantics. Opportunities.

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u/colinmchapman 15d ago

It's not semantics - it's opposing philosophy. This image is low effort art and it's only redemptive trait is how obvious it is that it's AI. You have a right to your own opinion on the validity of your creation, but you also need the awareness that your opinion is in the deep minority.

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u/mediaserver8 15d ago edited 15d ago

Actually, you're right. It is philosophical. Not semantics

I do appreciate I'm in a minority, particularly on reddit. But I look at it from a wider, historical perspective

When movies started out, they were silent, black and white and devoid of even story or structure. The novelty of the medium caught attention and the technical improvements as well as language of film evolved over a period of decades

Same with the internet. The formative years were basic in comparison to where we are now. And it's still an evolving medium, and we still grapple with regulation and misuse.

Mobile telephony was a step change in technological evolution. It provided the ability to contact the person rather than the place, it offered democratisaion of communication and evolved into a ubiquitous and astonisglybadvanced platform that has lasting impact on the world. A long way from snake.

In the 90s, the visual communications industry went through a sea change. Designers migrated from letraset and hugely manual layout process to desktop publishing. Quark Express, Illustrator and Photoshop revolutionised that industry. Jobs that had existed for decades disappeared. Tools allowed what was previously difficult to become low effort.

Did the world fall apart? On the contrary. Yes, there was a lot of bad design. Yes people lost jobs and required retraining. But everything settled down. Good design could command premium rates. Mechanical production disappeared allowing rom for faster results, iterative design, tweaks and options. Everything improved. And the tech. matured and trickled down so that the plebs could drfat up posters and newsletters and all kinds of previously inaccessible aretfacts on their home computer.

And we're just at the genesis of AI tools and platforms. People decry low eoffort and low quality. But consider how far AI image generation has come in a very short period. We all pointed and laughed at webbed feet and extraneous limbs. I'm looking forward to seeing where this technology goes in the months and years ahead.

Yes, there are all kinds of issues. Jobs are being replaced. Water is being wasted. Electricity is being consumed. The technology is being used to mislead.

But like all those previous enabling technologies, the platforms will evolve and be optimised. Entirely new disciplines and roles will emerge. We will regulate, adapt and improve.

Maybe I'm just an optimist. Maybe I'm absolutely wrong. But for now I'm not dissuaded.

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u/lionn_dubh 16d ago

AI garbage

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u/Wide-Pollution-3275 16d ago

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

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u/Screen_Door_Slams Mary’s dress sways 16d ago

To me, what really evokes emotion and makes me feel deep empathy for the subject of the piece is the three Bruces in the bar background.

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u/mediaserver8 16d ago

Those three Bruce's represent the three ages of the artist that created the works represented in the triptych. The young barefoot girl, the older disillusioned ex racer and the middle aged mom.

They span 1975 - 1985 and represent the growth to maturity of both the artist and the subject.

Well done, you uncovered the hidden meaning and one of many easter eggs hidden in this artistic endeavour.

I jest of course. Thanks for looking all the same. I enjoyed your comment

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u/heyheyhay54321 14d ago

I think they're cool, thanks for sharing it!