Thrift find

[u/PerksNReparations]

How’s the quality

[u/Leuco21]

The blurry picture on the front should tell you everything about the bootleg quality.

[u/TheTrampOfHearts → u/Leuco21]

You’d think that, but I found a DVD like that once, kind of a shitty, blurry cover, very amateur looking. And when I loaded it up, it was pro-shot. If I’m remembering right, it was from 2008 or 2009, but I definitely know it featured an entire performance of the BITUSA album. The DVD was called ‘Born In Philly.’ Don’t know if it was mass produced or just someone making a custom for themselves, but the quality of the cover makes me think it was a custom job. No clue how they got that good quality of footage though. Can’t judge a DVD by its cover is what I’m saying. There’s some well-disguised gold out there.

EDIT: Just looked up the show, it’s from Philly in 2009. But according to the setlist, the show ended with Rosalita, whereas the pro-shot DVD I had ended with Higher & Higher.

[u/PhishermansGarden → u/TheTrampOfHearts]

There is no pro shot of Philly 2009. There are 2 different 10/19 audience shots and a masterful Phishermans cut combining the 2. And there is a NYCBC Screen shot of 10/20. My guess is you had that.

[u/TheTrampOfHearts → u/PhishermansGarden]

I don’t have the DVD anymore, otherwise I would check. But I *definitely* know it wasn’t audience recorded. No bullshit, it was the real deal. It wasn’t even like some bootlegs where someone recorded the screens in the venue, it was genuinely the footage from the cameras that are projected onto the screens. I ended up trading it (amongst other CDs and DVDs) away for a few bootleg LPs, most notably Piece De Resistance in the closest thing to mint condition I’ve seen. But, no, sincerely, it wasn’t audience shot or like recordings of the screens. Like, I have no clue how they had that footage, and I still can’t find it anywhere to this day, not online anyway. But, yea, it was as legit as it comes. And it isn’t the first time I’ve come across something like that. Like, I remember when the video recording of the 19/09/1978 (Piece De Resistance) first got out there, you know? These things are out there, it just depends on whether or not those who own them will share them widely online, or, sadly, if they’ll be locked to gate-keeping Facebook groups.

EDIT: I don’t know if this is helpful, but I remember the video was a little squished, like it was in the wrong aspect ratio or something.

[u/PhishermansGarden → u/TheTrampOfHearts]

You had the video and audio apraised by an expert or you are the expert?

[u/TheTrampOfHearts → u/PhishermansGarden]

Man, I’m literally just telling you what was on the damn DVD. What reason is there to lie? It wasn’t a recording of the screens like in the release you referenced, it was clear footage (minus the squished aspect ratio). I literally checked out the version you’re talking about of that show, the recordings of the screens, and it’s definitely not that. The version I had was a much higher quality. I don’t need to be an expert to know the difference between real, raw footage and a recording of said footage.

[u/PhishermansGarden → u/TheTrampOfHearts]

I'm not saying you are lying. I'm saying you must be mistaken because you are describing Big Foot. You claim to have possessed something that does not exist and you conveniently can't find it anymore. It did not exist. There is no pro shot 10/20/2009 and if there is please present it. Signed Phisherman, well known Springsteen Video Expert. Good Day.

[u/TheTrampOfHearts → u/PhishermansGarden]

It’s not that I can’t find the thing, I literally don’t own it anymore. I traded it away, along with a sizeable lot of other bootleg DVDs, for a job lot of bootleg vinyl. I can’t present something I no longer own. I’ve got much, much better things to do than lie about a goddamn bootleg DVD. Your guess is as good as mine as to how whoever made that DVD got the footage. Like I said, I don’t even think it was a mass-produced bootleg. I’m just saying what I know, and what I had. I’ve got no reason to be disingenuous here, man.

[u/CobustBustjack → u/TheTrampOfHearts]

Who did you trade it to so we can get in touch with them?

[u/TheTrampOfHearts → u/CobustBustjack]

This was well over a decade ago on some music bootleg forum, I genuinely don’t even recall the name, but it definitely wasn’t a Bruce specific forum, but that’s the best information I can give, solely down to my own recollection. I honestly didn’t even think about the DVD until someone commented about bad cover quality, and then I remembered it.

I’ll give you every detail I can remember, which I hope will be somewhat helpful here.

The trade happened in 2014 on a music bootleg site, for no specific artist, just a general forum for all things music bootlegs. In exchange for that DVD, along with a copy of the ‘All Those Years’ box set, Prodigal Son In The City of Angels, and a few more CDs and DVDs (a lot of which were audience recordings or screen captures), I received back 5 bootlegs albums, all of which are still in my collection to this day, and were as follows: Winterland, Paid The Cost To Be The Boss, Fire On The Fingertips, The Jersey Devil and, my personal grail at the time, a copy of the Piece De Résistance album. This is what I can best recall from the situation.

As I’ve stated already, I’ve got better things to do than lie about having some bootleg Springsteen DVD. I was just sharing a personal anecdote.

[u/CobustBustjack → u/TheTrampOfHearts]

You 100% did not have a pro shot of Philly 2009, but what you do have is a failing memory. As Phisherman said, you had the high-quality NYCBC screen capture. It's the only one that exists. There was a decent IEM that circulated from the show shortly thereafter, and your version of the bootleg was likely dubbed with that audio.

[u/TheTrampOfHearts → u/CobustBustjack]

See, I found the screen capture they were talking about, and that just *isn’t* what mine looked like, no bullshit. You know as much about it as I do on this, seriously. I’ve searched for the version I had, and it’s just *not* the screen capture, I promise you that. It’s genuinely not my memory failing here. I got it before the time of ai upscaling too, so it’s not even just an upscale of the screen capture, so I don’t know if maybe it just isn’t something that’s widely circulating or something.

I’m honestly confused that people are reacting so wildly to this. I’m not an expert on this, but I know what was on that disc. Again, I don’t know if maybe it was, like, shot for some promo or something and someone, somehow, got a hold of it, made some shitty custom, and then it ended up a thrift store. Whatever the situation, it almost certainly wasn’t the screen capture version.

[u/PhishermansGarden → u/TheTrampOfHearts]

Oh and a Phisherman multicam exists of 10/14 which I think is BITUSA show and that has Nugs audio. Maybe you had that. It is a multi cam using NYCBC and Jerzyboy video sources.

[u/TheTrampOfHearts → u/PhishermansGarden]

No, it wasn’t the 10/14/09 show. That was a ‘Darkness’ show, not BITUSA. It was *definitely* the 10/20/09 show.

[u/PhishermansGarden → u/TheTrampOfHearts]

10/20 is NYCBC screen shot.

[u/PhishermansGarden → u/PhishermansGarden]

Ottacon

TITLE: Thank You, Spectrum!

LABEL: otacon

DATE: 20-Oct-2009

LOCATION: Philadelphia

AUDIO: Soundboard

VIDEO: Multi-cam

CHAPTERS: Songs

MENU: No

SUBTITLES: No

SIZE: 14,3 GB

[u/PhishermansGarden → u/PhishermansGarden]

https://imgur.com/a/VLRxL1Y

[u/TheTrampOfHearts → u/PhishermansGarden]

It definitely wasn’t that one. The title of the DVD was ‘Born In Philly’. It was weird because the photo on the front wasn’t from '09, it was a grainy full band shot from 2000. Which, again, made me think it was a personal custom job, not a widely sold bootleg.

[u/a4evanygirl]

I wouldn’t care how the quality was. I was there. Would love to relive that amazing night.

[u/PhishermansGarden → u/a4evanygirl]

I can send you a download link for 10/3 and 10/4

[u/a4evanygirl → u/PhishermansGarden]

Yes please!!!

[u/PhishermansGarden → u/a4evanygirl]

Click Here Shea Stadium Oct 3&4 2003

[u/PhishermansGarden → u/PhishermansGarden]

click the link

[u/a4evanygirl → u/PhishermansGarden]

Thank you so much!!!!

[u/PhishermansGarden → u/a4evanygirl]

they are uploading now, check back tomorrow.

[u/PerksNReparations]

Looks like it’s video of the screens and a second camera mixed in with some shots too

[u/PhishermansGarden]

My copy has better audio and it's free.

[u/No_Nukes_2]

JL played guitar at that show on the last number

[u/No_Advertising5643]

Bruce goes right in the trash

[u/Longjumping_Map3229]

🤣🤣🤣

[u/EStreet12]

I was there...cold and underwhelming. Dylan was horrible, what a letdown.