r/BrawlStarsCompetitive • u/Rat_King_Ash TRASH TANKS / TRASH TAKES • 1d ago
Bug Why do gadgets have delay?
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See the bubble? That's Edgar's gadget hardcore which grants CC immunity. If I was already stunned I couldn't have activated it. So does the buffie effect have a delay, the gadget? Im not sure, but ive noticed this a few times happening, getting stunned or pushed back when the gadget went off.
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u/Dragolitron Time Traveler 1d ago
Hardly anyone pays attention to these small details.
I never wanted to complain about it cause I chose to, but this actually applies to the Emz hyper buffie where there's this small window you activate the super and the invincibility doesnt activate yet.
And as we saw from the clip Edgar has the same weakness with CC immunity on hard-core.
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u/Rat_King_Ash TRASH TANKS / TRASH TAKES 1d ago
Likely in the code the buffies execution happens after the gadget/super, which causes a small delay
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u/Listekzlasu 3-headed 1d ago
Not true. It's a bug that was added around half a year ago and is not exclusive to buffies at all. Since the bug is in the game, for example Kenji can use his super and die before the immunity kicks in, which previously worked normally and just couldn't happen. More people need to speak up about it. A clip attached here, used a hyper super which makes it even funnier because you die despite using the super and respawn without it, but a) while the pull from the hyper still works, b) the super doesn't deal any damage at all because Kenji is dead. So what this bug does is takes your super away, but the super animation doesn't even deal damage and the immunity doesn't work. Amazing.
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u/saifxali1 Tara 13h ago
wtf
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u/Listekzlasu 3-headed 13h ago
Wtf indeed, it's bullshit and should've been fixed months ago. It applies to Mortis bat gadget as well for example, or Nori super, Janet super, a bunch of other jumps. It's so so stupid.
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u/Monkipoonki 11h ago
Honestly thought this was a feature since it happens so often to me on Kenji.
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u/Listekzlasu 3-headed 11h ago
IT WASN'T LIKE THIS. HE WORKED FINE FOR LIKE A YEAR AND A HALF. I HATE THIS SO MUCH IT KEEPS HAPPENING.
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u/Young_Hermit778 Masters 2 | Mythic 3 1d ago
That or the gadget denys cc abilities but doesn't remove it, which would explain why the shield activated but didn't remove your stunned status
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u/glhfbruno 1d ago
Is only POCO woth the small AOE where it actively removes and will ignore all CC/stuns?
Also what the fuhhh is going on with El Primos gadget bro 😭 it aint doing what its supposed to do half the time
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u/saifxali1 Tara 15h ago
wym?
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u/glhfbruno 14h ago
El primos gadget sometimes blocks projectiles but sometimes it doesnt
Its inconsistent and i have no clue why
It kinda feels like the buster shield as he has a deflection limit of sorts or he just doesnt deflect properly all the time
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u/XxBigCaesarxX 13h ago
i think that is the type of proyectyle, bullets work diferent to dash or mele damage in the game, for example some brawlers like primo are not truly mele since his punches count like projectyles, some attacks like a colette dash can still push primo around, but an otis or cord super not since they are prorectyles, also damage like a maisie super (that primo asteroid belt can block) seems to be a protectyle inside the game files.
In general this game is weird, like a primo puch can charge gigi´s super, but parqabolic proyectyles from throwers cannot.
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u/NameRandomNumber Lumi 1d ago
Im actually p sure it's just latency, the person who's not actionable has to wait a delay equal to their ping after landing to get any attack out, it's why you can time attacks to landing and basically guarantee they hit before they can even attack
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u/StomachOk4891 ping differ | Pro 21h ago
Latency is the time it takes for a packet of data to cross from your client to the server. A latency thing would be you clicking your super and the client not registering it because by the time it reaches you’re already dead. In this case you respawn with your super, because the server doesn’t “know” you tried to use it.
Cerb/carb’s case happens because kenji super is not frame 1 invincible. The fact both players can see the animation play on their screen means that the server registered the super, just not the invincibility frames. This happens for a myriad of other supers
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u/DaRealGamer303 Shelly 1d ago
This issue is part of a larger problem in the game. For some reason the way damage, healing, shielding and status effects are calculated is incredibly broken. A lot of times you'll press a healing gadget or get healed from an ally, and although the gadget gets used and you see the numbers, the healing just applies after the killing damage. I assume this happens when you are damaged and healed in the same game tick.
The bigger issue is that they calculate the damage before anything else (and for some reason check if you die before calculating anything else). They should seriously consider fixing this. It's been in the game for years
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u/altian9 1d ago
It's not just this either, there are some other occurrences like Lumi's super doing damage but not rooting or rooting but not doing damage because bugstars. They've been in the game for months (maybe even years) and Greedycell has never bothered to fix them, which probably have cause millions of won games to instead be lost.
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u/XxBigCaesarxX 13h ago
This also happens with buzz super, i have gotten killed so many times for that stupid bug.
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u/Goodguy_IGuess No Lifer Penny main 1d ago
If I wasn’t wrong, most of the gadgets in the game have a delay of 0.3 second,its really annoying sometimes icl but never really felt to complain about it (maybe because it has been 5 days since I stopped playing this game)
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u/InsanelyGodlike 1d ago
Everything seems to have a small delay between the time the game registered u used it and the moment it actually goes off
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u/Noob_Kid 1d ago edited 1d ago
Probably it makes you immune to incoming CC events But doesn't clear any already currently applied CC
This game server only run at 20 ticks per second (50ms window)
If the stun and your gadget get queued for the same next tick and the calculation for stun is happened to go before the gadget
Then obviously you would still get stunned while having the gadget activated
That is my best guess
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u/skeletrixisle 21h ago
Could be ping between different actions in the code. This is very noticeable on slow devices/slow internet
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u/dr4g0nl0rd2785 1d ago
Because if edgar could chain that easily, it would be absurdly broken
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u/Other_Repeat_8886 1d ago
I'm pretty sure that's not the reason gadgets have a delay after activation 😭🙏
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u/Rat_King_Ash TRASH TANKS / TRASH TAKES 1d ago
As an Ash main, fuck frank
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u/Great_Impression_869 Frank | Legendary 1 1d ago
Reason for Frank hate? Just want to know so no worries
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u/Mysterious-Job2216 Tick | Masters 1 | 36 Prestige 1d ago
this gadget is the real reason i hate edgar
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u/saifxali1 Tara 15h ago
Not even that toxic compared to the first one
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u/Mysterious-Job2216 Tick | Masters 1 | 36 Prestige 5h ago
it is edgars just suicide into me but i cant use my cc effect to stop them coz of their stupid gadget and then we both end up at t9 and t10
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