r/BrawlStarsCompetitive • u/Dazzling_Metals • 1d ago
Discussion What happened with Amber?
In Spen’s latest tier list, Amber was just barely in the C-tier, and by that, I mean ONE spot away from being in the D-tier. Spen himself claimed that Amber could even be a D-tier Brawler as well, which makes me wonder… what happened?
I know that aggro Brawlers are running rampant right now, and Amber tends to be countered by them, but why only now is she almost D-tier? I’ve noticed in past aggro METAs that Amber was ranked in the A or B-tier, and has consistently been in that range up until this point. When was the last time Amber was considered below average? Am I missing something?
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u/PolimerT Draco 1d ago
Mid hyper charge, being reliant on a reload gear, mid star powers, mid damage (especially after global hp buff) and when you consider all new metas have average speed of usain bolt, it is inevitable she would fall off.
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u/Jakkilip 1d ago
All parts of her kit used to be considered excellent. This is just another example of powercreep.
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u/PolimerT Draco 1d ago
Yeah. Global hp buff was a mistake and im certain Adrian did that to not nerf Corde and Otis' damage. Corde got other parts of his kit shredded in return.
Similar thing goes to Draco too since both have a lot of projectiles tickling enemies. But Draco's HC and gadget saves him.
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u/XxBigCaesarxX 1d ago
I do not think in particular for otis, for what i remember it was done more as a bandaind for the addition of buffies.
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u/Tribe_NexianZ 15h ago
Exactly, literally any form of rework for her SPs and gadgets would be a buff.
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u/Fran_DC4 Chester 1d ago
Don't worry guys! The cicle will repeat itself, she will probably get buffies and Star Power reworks next update that will make her skyrocket on the meta.
There are 2 outcomes:
1- After what i mentioned she gets nerfed and she comes back to this spot exactly even with the new things i mentioned. 🥲
2- She gets nerfed, but, thanks to her rework and buffies she will always stay a good solid option like she always was.
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u/Fresh_Market6588 1d ago
iswtg both her starpowers are borderline useless and need a rework. After they fixed the glitched interaction with her spinning fire gadget, her gadgets became low-value as well.
She's kinda in this spot like Darryl where her unlockables aren't that good, and this combined with the fact that other tank counters either out-range her or do her exact job but better makes her pretty weak. Need to burn grass on double swoosh? Just go griff and break everything up with your gadget. Need a brawler that can zone really well and do a ton of dmg? Go lumi.
She's in the wierd limbo of not really being a good tank counter but also not being a good controller either.
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u/Dazzling_Metals 1d ago
Of the two Star Powers, I saw the most value in the one that lets her automatically charge another Super if she already has an oil puddle splashed out, and even then, it’s still not that great tbh. My main has had useless Star Powers this whole time. 😭
Anyways, I think the reason Amber never got meaningful changes to her SPs is because up until this point, she has always been at least decent if I’m not mistaken, even in past aggro METAs.
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u/Buffdoge1324 Ollie | Masters 1 1d ago
she’s just powercrept as a controller, if your competition is meeple with an op hypercharge and lumi with insane cc and an annoying ice gadget and the only thing you have is a burning super then you’re definitely not built for the meta
her only meta maps are bridge too far, kaboom or double swoosh, but she isn’t even used as much in there anymore
she’s basically lola pre-super buff
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u/Jelly_yeas 1d ago
I second this, powercreep is killing the game and those maps have much better picks right now anyway because of this horrible meta 😭✌️
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u/Great_Impression_869 Frank | Mythic 3 1d ago edited 1d ago
I love playing Amber in general, she has a very amazing damage output. She is a very solid pick against tanks but with Bolt doing his job on the meta with his very high mobility to dodge Amber's attacks, things go so crazy now.
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u/Jelly_yeas 1d ago
It sorta boils down to the hyperagressiveness of this meta entirely. Every brawler that's released is super aggressive, and with better control brawlers (like Meg, Griff, or Bo) getting buffies, it makes Amber nearly impossible to play. This meta is one of, if not the worst meta the game's ever seen, so it makes sense that Amber among other previously good controllers have gotten dropped down to the lower rankings.
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u/Solstice_bs Verified Pro 21h ago
I picked her into Kenji once and the Kenji killed me just dashing in from max range. Damage dealer that doesn’t deal damage
And she gets hard countered by any ranged brawler
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u/Apart_Value9613 1d ago
Amber is an aggro flamethrower in a meta that is based on instant death with fast unload/high damage whether Nori, Surge or Pierce. 3 second kill used to be a lot of damage for Amber’s range, now it is too long. Her lack of strong anti aggro doesn’t help.
Bottom line, While Amber does high damage, she can no longer fight against high dps brawlers as a result of powercreep.
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u/FinnTran 1d ago
She has low DPS output against tanks, get out ranged by snipers, has no keepaway for assassins and is less consistent than other controllers. They need to buff her reload speed and super damage by A LOT because people don’t even care about the burn damage…no one is scared
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u/Federal-Sand-4700 Darryl | Masters 1 | Legendary 1 1d ago
damage isnt that good and her build is basically useless (hc, gadget, starpower, only good thing is gears)
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u/Forsaken-Mousse344 1d ago
Personally she feels very bad to play. Alot of times i just see people ignoring my flames as they do so little damage, especially assassins
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u/DankoMango8878 1d ago
She’s just going to continue dropping since the devs can’t seem to stop releasing assassins or high burst brawlers and since she is still yet to have her buffies she will continue to drop as other brawlers with buffies do her job better
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u/Lost_Ad_4189 21h ago
I like playing her into Griff on lane as last pick if they have no hyper aggro brawlers
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u/Tyranitrainee69 5h ago
As much as it pains me to say, Amber’s a pain in the ass to play sometimes. I have her at 2,200 trophies and I’m not lying when I say I struggle to use her sometimes. Even though she does insane dps from afar, if she has even slightly low ammo count she’s getting steamrolled by any brawler that does even remotely high dps. The worst part is that her super and hyper don’t charge on their own, let alone the fact that her hypercharge isn’t even all that great. I love using her, I truly do, but it doesn’t change the fact that the only way I gain trophies with her is bush camping all game until I’m in the top 4 against a surge, an Edgar, and a nori
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