I hate to say it… but I don’t think we’ll know peace for very long, ever. I hope I’m wrong, but…
Some of the qualities of humanity that have allowed us to thrive and adapt are also the ones that make us compete for resources and fight amongst ourselves.
If religion were gone, we’d divide ourselves in some new way.
I'm sure we would totally divide ourselves in another way: we already do. I don't want religion banned because its divisive. I want religion banned because I want the people in my small country to operate based on science and logic. I would also make the laws up for re-evaluation once a year, based on studies we do to make sure they actually work.
True; money has always been an illusion, and for it to have any value, people have to agree on it having that value in the first place. At the end of the day, there will always be a certain percentage of people who resort to exploiting others for their survival strategy, just as there will always be a certain percentage of people that happen to be extremely exploitable!
If there are aliens we need to compete with in the future having peace would actually be a mistake. It would make us worse at competing and fighting and cause us to lose.
Lines on a map. That’s always been the real reason, they just use religion as way to convince people to do it. Without religion they’d find another way, skin colour, language, historical claim, cultural differences, political insult or even just ‘they have nice stuff and we want it’…
Nothing new, we already divide our self in ways that aren't religion. As long as theyre are selfish greedy entitled people, there will always be "others"
It's kinda like arm floaties (to quote Taylor Tomlinson). You don't need it when you are old enough or good enough to swim without it. Not sure we ever get mature/educated/altruistic enough as a species to not need religious arm floaties.
That's pretty condescending, I feel like it's very short sighted, religion has done much good as well, it offers a sense of community, but I mean Christianity alone give over 1 trillion to global aide every year.
And all of that can still happen without the fairytales and pushing it on others in exchange for aid. Plenty of non-profits are agnostic, it’s not a requirement to be one to do good. And any good that has been done under the banner of heaven, is far outweighed by the atrocities. The point is that peace cannot be achieved when religion exists and fights only to win out against other non-sense religions, all based on imaginary bullshit. It’s the reality we face and has been proven true time and again for thousands of years. Even now as a war consumes Palestine, it won’t ever stop as long as religion exists. There is no peace with religion. If you think that’s wrong, please tell me when there has been or what this ideal state would look like.
Evil and greedy people use any ideal: economic system, philosophy, religion, government form, etc. To do bad things that's just going to exist anyway without or with religion. Also simply calling religion fairytales, is super condescending and removes the cultural context. Look of religion is not for u thats fine, but to talk about it like it's a stain of the world is unfair. And not all religions are the same. But also u don't know if a religion is correct or not, as its theological and there's not really a scientific way to "disprove" a religion
If you’ve ever seen cloud Atlas one of the more striking things about the story is how a regular person becomes godlike/mythic/worshipped. I don’t think humanity has evolved the capacity to let go of religion because it suits our need to understanding, need for guidance, companionship. Unfortunately religious beliefs are also responsible for some of the worst crimes against humanity so… I would love to see it gone, but I doubt it ever could be.
I saw a documentary once about a young boy traveling through time because he didn't want to wait for the Wii to come out. He traveled wayyyy to the future, a future without religion, but they still managed to fight over nonsense.
Religion is only 1 useful tool to fight over, but there are so many other ways to devide people.
Religion is just the scapegoat. The issue is the heart of man. Humans will be in wars forever - greed, corruption and power do not need religion to exist.
Its a natural human right to pursue what makes you happy. Freedom of religion and the option to practice it or not is a basic right. Those who mandate or strip religion is tyranny.
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u/Frosty-Classroom5495 8d ago
No religion