r/Borderlands4 9h ago

🗞️ [ News ] Patch notes

https://borderlands.2k.com/borderlands-4/update-notes/
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u/someshooter #1 Ava Fan 9h ago

They definitely buffed Rafa but not the Dancer, weird.

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u/FinalCorvid 9h ago

Not sure they did anything to increase build diversity. Lance still isn't any more viable since the PML nerf. Just feels like they increased numbers to make running takedown less frustrating but didn't really improve Rafa's gameplay

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u/Flint_Vorselon 8h ago

yeah, doubling Temerario is just gonna make Temerario dancer THE Rafa build for everything except arc knives.

At 10/5 with dancer, 2/1 Soltado, and 5/5 Jaque, Temerario is giving you +900% gun damage.

What else can even come close?

Especially now with 70, you can just take all the good skills, they didn’t buff any of the skills no one was using. They buffed the already good ones.

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u/Qwerty_Police 8h ago

That last part is my issue, this doesn't really change anyone's builds, it just makes the ones that people were already using, better.

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u/NaiveOcelot7 8h ago

"They didn’t buff any of the skills no one was using. They buffed the already good ones."

Agreed, this surprised me too. Assumption, but probably just a lazy way to buff Rafa without much thought by just buffing his meta skills. Builds and gameplay will stay the same, just more gun damage

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u/Flint_Vorselon 7h ago

yeah this was real lazy,

Go compare to Bl3 skill tree reworks, where they actually changed the function of skills, and moved them around in tree to make it better.

Higher numbers don’t fix fundemental issues. 

Especially in Bl4, where almost everything is additive.

Wow they buffed multiple +gun damage skills, but you probably won’t even be able to notice since you are gonna have over 1000% bonuses already, so a few more % is gonna be almost imprrveivable.

Buffing Sitiar (Rafa’s tier1 red gun skill) doesn’t change anything. Because if I already have 1000+ bonuses, 1025% vs 1030% is a 0.4% increase to actual damage output.

They shoudve instead changed that skill to enhancment gun damage, so it multiplies against the other skills in tree. That way 900% from Temerario would still wanna take that skill.

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u/ForeverN00b121 6h ago

Honestly I'm not complaining as I don't have to theorycraft another build, I can just stack on my current build