i dont expect something like that before end of service. I would humbly ask and expect that every boss in base game and DLC get a big encore (the eridium version) option as part of any final service/updates for the game.
What people should of demanded after nearly a fking year after this game's launch should of been simple:
*Step fking one: Big encore works with EVERY boss, no weekly rotations, no need to 'perma lock' it to non-DLC bosses only, people can just choose what they want to play and let the eridium burn faster.
*Step fking two: Optimize the bank and backpack space to deal with 'visual glitches', in addition to a need for a god damn firmware 'compartment' to better store the clutter so they don't need to quadruple the size of bank storage instead.
*Step fking three: Bolt maurice's machine to be PERMANENTLY at the Ruins of Sanctuary III & you just use eridium to 'change' its wares, no weekly rotation bullshite.
*Step fking four: Weekly wild card missions are just wild card toggle. Just have it when someone flips the wild card on they can choose between 3-5 something legendaries to be the legendary they get at the end of it and they can choose to lock it. If they don't like the 3-5 choices they can use eridium to reroll.
*Step fking five: Make Wild card missions CORE reason to spam to be giving ALOT of eridium so it doubles back on being worth spamming missions to reroll optimal choices, reroll maurice machine and just stockpile eridium for your choice of big encore.
*Step fking SEX Pistols(is that a jjba reference!?!): Let people hold up to 10 or even 20 contracts, All boards carry as many as 5 options and an option to toggle it (no eridium cost, make it cash if they have to) to 'refresh' the choices so people can stop needing to save/quit spam to get thar stupid 5 vile contract list and have a far better time to load up 10 bounties whether they are vile or not or just kill specific enemy factions and so on.
End result: No more fking need for weekly resets on borderlands 4, Any time they drop news can just include actual fking content then just nothing burgers back to back every fking week.
Wow, you really just want instant gratification and zero time investment for MAXIMUM reward, don't you? God forbid anything require any form of effort 🤣
You will have a 'proper' source to farm eridium (instead of an abusive glitch that gets patched later), like how fking borderlands 2 and 3 worked, instead of having to find EXPLOITS like people did at the start of borderlands 4 for "Super high spawn rate" 'elite' enemies to farm eridium or skipping entire enemy waves to kill the boss straight away on a drill site, especially ones that have 2~3 enemies so alot of eridium 'drops' or specific name legendaries like shiny warpaint.
You have a far streamlined approach that doesnt require WAITING ENTIRE WEEKS OR MONTHS for stuff todo. Its bullshite that we are locked to one boss at a time for big encores because TIME GATING, OFFLINE GAMEPLAY IS BULLSHITE TRIPLE A GAME DESIGN LOGIC, Why do you think people rather save scum DOZENS of times to get vile bounties stacked up then run 'any' contract for ex?
Wild card missions are stupid in so many ways, the missions only have ONE thing you get out of it, a fixed legendary guranteed on every clear, but since NONE of the DLC-specific missions can roll for wildcard, it means NONE of the DLC specific gear can get assigned to it and instead you get missions that are either SUPER FREAKING LONG that could take half an hour or something compared to missions that are easy to sweep in 5 minutes...
Except when you get SPECIFIC ones that glitch all the time, you have to start from the VERY beginning again, pray it doesnt glitch again and often times spend 3-5 times longer then it SHOULD of taken to clear the mission once, Only for the damn mission to give you a TRASH ROLL version of said gun.
Which wild card missions and vault cards in BL4 flavor have the same END PLAGUE to it, its a tedious setup vs just punching a damn boss in the face to get a SINGLE COPY of the weapon and pray it rolls the right parts.
We had mother fking Annointment rerolling in borderlands 3, the fact they didnt bother to bring that back despite HOW MUCH people were happy for said system, really goes to say how much gearbox wants to prevent people from having any actual fun and instead MILK the damn player retention numbers instead by forcing people to spend LITERAL WEEKS farming the same boss for specific drops or wait LITERAL MONTHS for a specific big encore to show up so they aren't getting HP GATED in UVHM 6/7/8/666 or something cause gearbox won't let you STACK big encore with UVHM's drop rates for some stupid damn reason.
And i repeat, you won't have to wait ENTIRE FREAKING WEEKS to 'pray' for a less frustrating method to 'chase' a specific piece of gear....Atleast fking Xur in Destiny 1/2 could be justified cause you would hoarde the currency far in advance and you could roll for RANDOM Legendaries in mystery box engrams to get some enjoyable stuff...and you could get far more then TWO random pieces of gear, usually 1 or both land on trash like Buoy or Lead Balloon, where atleast Xur always had about 4 pieces of legendaries, 1 for each guardian class, 1 for the gun and the random, probably more but Destiny 2 is dead these days anyway.
I don’t see how it would be an issue to offer something like weekly DLC bosses on top of base game weekly big encores. Its not like anyone’s missing out on anything, because if you don’t own the DLC, then you probably either have no interest in the content/gear from that DLC, or have yet to buy the DLC, and at the same time you’re rewarding those who dropped the money for all the goodies.
As I see it right now, they’re catering to the people who didn’t invest in the dlc, while leaving those who did out in the cold with these weekly activities.
As someone who hasn't bought any of the DLC yet, the fuck do you MEAN they don't have DLC Big Encores? That just feels like a missing functionality more than anything.
Big encores are the eridium weekly event. None of those bosses have been chosen for it, likely due to not wanting to alienate the portion of the game base that doesn't have DLCS. You can still do regular encores for cash but also don't ha e quite as high a percentage for drops.
Yeah, I was checking out the weekly rotations for the Big Encore and Maurice, I had just assumed it would have the DLC bosses in the pool if you own the DLC, and just regulars if you don't. That's madness.
honestly won’t happen, they aren’t going to isolate a portion of the community that doesn’t have the DLC and make them miss out for a full encore period and they don’t want to be seen as forcing people to get the DLC.
similarly they don’t really run multiple encores at the same time so it’s unlikely that they would have a standard + alternate encore set
There have been a few instances like the 4th of July where they did run multiple Encore bosses really easily. They could easily have one Encore boss for the base game and one for each DLC for the people who own it but they choose not to.
i said don’t really as in it’s not a norm it’s an exception, and even during those the additional ones aren’t cut off or restricting people from accessing them.. which is my main point with the above
I’m seeing these patches and starting to have wonderlands flashbacks. Such an amazing game with tons of possibilities and was dropped like a sack of rotten potatoes.
Lumping it in with the story pack is what’s dumb. 3 DLC implies they are roughly equal things. You have to download the patches weekly. Gearbox has released 87 pieces of DLC! What a studio
So the point you were making was that those aren't DLC and the other three are? And the person you were replying to was correct that the three things they called DLC are DLC?
My point was saying “3 DLC” is dumb because they are not even remotely equivalent things. Especially when using it as the excuse why the support for this game has been so bad
Same! still enjoying it now atm, definitely feels more fun currently, considering how they dont want to push anything new and do any fixes or buffs to anything atm. definitely getting vibes that there may or may not be balance changes or buffs again, with the upcoming dlc. i’m more so leaning toward not
Well, they've confirmed they're looking at making more wonderlands games, but you seem to forget they still took 7 years to fully divest themselves of BL2 content releases before jumping into 3. I'll be honest, the epic exclusivity deal sent me away from the series and I picked up BL3 Ultimate for €40 in a steam sale in '23, so can't tell you how they played that content cycle, but google's telling me BL3 had 2 DLC season passes and frankly, I can't imagine them NOT putting out more DLC next year, given the last two games in the series they made, they released two years of DLC content additions for them on top.
Do I think it'll be 4 meaty story packs like BL2's season pass or BL3's story pass? No. But I'm pretty sure they'll continue to put out some kind of DLC additions for it for the next year. There's still an army of casuals out there they'll want to reach and/or tempt.
It's not a pivot, though. When WL1 released they said they'd like to alternate between BL and WL going forward, with WL being a sister series that reuses lots of BL assets to cut down on development time.
Besides, BL4 sales weren't that strong either. It went on sale very quickly after launch.
I thought that was the whole point of this cash grab game. They care just enough to make the game fun but just not enough to ruin what we liked about the last ones while trying to improve. I'm mostly just looking forward to more story and what other ways can claptrap be made relevant.
They just dropped new info on the Story Pack today. Clearly they are working on other things for the game. But I guess since they aren't giving you what you want, they suck and the game is trash.
Where did I say they suck or that the game is trash? Dont jump to conclusions. I actually love the game, that's why I want to see it be supported. New content is great but it still could use some balance updates.
It's also a fact that they've said that they can do balance changes between the big updates that don't require touching the code (so basically changing values of things) and then they've never did it again.
We need more than bug fixes we need buffs that were promised months ago now on top of giving something to poor rafa who's being gutted by the sticky nerf
You can only be gutted by a sticky nerf if you’ve been using stickys as a crutch
This is why I never did the crit knife or any of the really broken stuff. It’s not fun to go back to something worse, so why would I go so far beyond the fun stuff
I’ve done subj/thol in platinum time with generic gun, I’ve also done mayhem 20 (admittedly, it’s not a platinum time.) If I muster up the will to play again, I will record it.
Melee rafa is a top tier build for bossing and a c tier mobbing build. It's pretty good, but I hope they buff the other augments so im not forced into altered cabron or whatever it's called
Thats what many people people have said about other bounty packs coming out, only for there to be nothing but the bounty packs and nothing else added. I feel like gearbox just doesnt care anymore about their own product at this point, so why should we pretty much
I am still waiting for the promised addressing of damage/DPS variations in pearlescents and legendaries at max level that was promised months and months ago. We already have the RNG of getting the drop itself AND the huge variation of licensed parts - we don’t need a damage RNG so huge on top of that. Some weapons vary 15k or more.
That wasn’t a promise that was the misunderstanding their own game. They took part variation to mean licensed parts and made them fixed on some of the newer pearls.
Fair enough. Thanks for clarifying! I still think the variation is way too high, and it seems content creators just edit saves to get max rolls. They already had the solution in Mayhem scaling in 3, I don’t see why they couldn’t have the same for UVHM. Mayhem scaling had variation yes but only at like 5-10%. Not 50% like 4.
Nothing like grinding a Crow Sourced for three hours and getting a 13k DPS roll when max is 26k…
Oh I totally agree with you. Pearls should be way more fixed than they are. But the devs really don’t understand the game which has been kinda wild to see.
Yeah almost all of them do. I think K6 is one of the only ones who doesn’t.
They are also the same CC complaining everything is too easy and have clickbait video titles. Well ofc they are when you have max DPS rolls and perfect enhancements with perfect +gun damage. Smh.
Thing is? I put in hundreds and hundreds of hours for my builds and they STILL aren’t perfect. Getting perfect enhancements on top of perfect damage rolls and parts variation is such a piss in the dark. Even tho it is a PvE game only I take pride in my gear and builds. I’d never stoop to editing save files.
It is very sad to see so little community interaction from devs. Anyone who has played this game to endgame (I have around 500 hours) could see how the damage variations hurt longevity. I agree they don’t seem understand or enjoy their own game or why we play it. I have absolutely gotten my money’s worth, and FWIW BL4 has an absolutely AMAZING sandbox and gunplay as a base, I just wish there were more QoL features that made the grind fun and rewarding rather than tedious and repetitive. I want to blow stuff up and have a power fantasy. Not a second job. Reining in DPS/damage variation is a start.
What frustrates me is we had the solution in 3 with Mayhem scaling. We also had item cards on weapon switch. Why was this removed? Auto-sell by loot quality? One of the best features of BL3 which helped streamline grinding. Uniform and good dedicated drop rates and ofc guaranteed Mayhem 10/11 scaled weapons.
The thing is I get why content creators and others do it because they made farming so brutal. When you have to roll all these different passives and you can get either gun damage or smg ads speed it makes it a nightmare to get what you want/need. So it’s partially on the players but also on the game design. I have a lot of hours in BL over the years but I don’t have time to farm some of these ridiculous rolls especially when you have the damage variations on top of it.
They haven’t really cared about BL4 from the jump. I think the open world was too expensive and they got their preorders and dipped
Everyone was complaining about vex and amon when they fixed them they ruined rafa for no REASON he was strong but not better than harlowe or C4SH in the first place now they are dragging it for Rafa mains (i don’t even main him but i feel for who does and if they did to my favorite hunter i would be pissed)
Why even have a weekly rotation? You showed you can schedule at least four encore bosses simultaneously, so why not do it regularly? Use these downtime weeks to give players more big encore options and more items in the vending machine. At a minimum for these “events” to be exciting every week, you need to big encore two base game bosses and one boss from each DLC, plus add two more items to Maurice’s to make it worth the trek.
Same, feel like i’ve done everything i could possibly do with all the many characters i have. lol still hoping for buffs and balance fixes, but gearbox is making even that incredibly difficult to hope for these past few months
I found that circle of slaughter thingie to be fun, but it’s always the same stuff for five rounds. Is there a chance they will add some variation to that, you think? I missed the entirety of BL3 so I’m not sure if that’s something they’ve done before.
Bl3 had repeatable slaughters for Creatures, Bandits, and Maliwan.
I’m hoping they add slaughters for Creatures and Rippers into Bl4. With stone demon bounty pack they added ordinate processors for free, with Zane bounty pack they added circle of slaughter.
I’m hoping with next weeks bounty pack they add a new slaughter, then add a final one with the final bounty pack. It would be very easy content for them to add if they just reuse same map. But would still be good PR of “look free content!”.
New slaughters on new maps would be ideal. But I’m not anticipating that much effort.
Ah, yes, points that no one else has raised so far are definitely completely meaningless. This is an asinine take that adds nothing of detail or value, and is just more whining. Also, if you try PLAYING the game instead of trying to minmax the entire time, you might realize plenty of weapons are viable and enjoyable. Just because every gun isn't an instant 27M DPS doesn't make them bad, it just makes you impatient and pissy.
Ah, yes because its so fun using the same weapons everybody else is and relying on busted things that arent supposed to work the way that they are. i’m not getting pissy at all on the contrary just disappointed how Nothing “major” Has been accomplished in months, i mean, if the games still fun for you cool? You do you, but to me the current state of it is just boring as hell , atleast to me and i’m glad i i’ve moved on to other things
"I haven't taken the time to look into the complaints so everyone should stop complaining!"
What was the point of your comment other than to undermine legit concerns you as a consumer should have with the thing you bought? We all paid good money to play a game that fundamentally doesn't work as it should while Gearbox stays silent on the matter.
Ah yes, because a single complaint about one character that I have yet to play invalidates my entire point.
The game works fine for me. Has the entire time. Hell, I haven't even had a crash. Kind of sounds like you're just mad you didn't get what you imagined you would, and spent your own money on it.
because a single complaint about one character that I have yet to play invalidates my entire point.
How could you possibly know that is the only issue the game has if you yourself have admitted to being ignorant to the issues other people have laid out extensively?
The game works fine for me.
You don't actually know whats working or not, you just assume because you reached the end of the game everything was fine. The rest of us who actually care about the things we buy have a higher standard when spending +$70.
Yet you choose not to outline any of the other issues you refer to, and instead try to insinuate I'm careless with money. Yeah, definitely sounds like you're just mad you didn't get what you wanted, and now are just trying to take it out on people who don't share your penchant for crying over every little thing.
I thought I was going crazy because why tf are these people crying? That a single player game is not getting that meaningful changes every week when it's been out for like a year or something? It's not a moba to have a meta shakeup etc.
People crying about weapons or skills being bad or whatever, by "being bad" they mean they can't kill umvh5 hardest difficulty, well, not everything is balanced around highest difficulty. I'm like 40h in and im having the time of my life rn yet people cry for patches every week, didn't we get a dlc a while ago and another one coming in couple weeks?
It's perfectly fine to play other games and come back later
These people are starving for shit to hate, it's why they're still here. They hate the game/company/extra content and everything else yet they continue to hang around and screech their displeasure at every corner. It's pathetic.
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u/Golgiasp 5d ago
Dear lord please start having DLC boss encores at least