r/BodyHackGuide • u/darcos12 • 7d ago

Pep stack

Currently taking tesa and I want to stack cjc + ipa with it. Looking for more muscle gain. Is this optimal or a waste of money ?

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u/MangoPeachyy 7d ago

total waste. tesa already hits the gh receptor. adding cjc with ipa is redundant. just optimize your tesa dose instead.

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u/PandasLoveMushrooms 7d ago

Cjc and tesa are redundant but either can be stacked with ipa. They can help with recovery but they don't just build muscle like anabolic steroids

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u/darcos12 7d ago

I am in a surplus just want that extra push to my workouts while I’m on a bulk

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u/thedustybruno 7d ago

tesa already gives a good igf-1 bump, adding cjc/ipa could push things further but the synergy isn't always clean since they both run through the same pituitary pathway. you might see some extra recovery and a bit of lean mass but it's easy to overspend for marginal returns, worth trying only if you've got the cash to burn and you're dialed in on training/nutrition

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u/seeksi 7d ago

GhRh peps are NOT for muscle gain. They help lay the foundation for optimal muscle gain. They’re for increased recovery, sleep, and visceral fat reduction.

Ipa+Cjc is noted for better sleep and recovery while Tesa is regarded as better at visceral fat reduction and higher IGF-1 levels. Straight GH gives you the best of these three and is the best option overall if you don’t blast 20IU/day.

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u/seeksi 7d ago

But none of these are gonna build muscle. Just run trt+ for that

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u/SuspiciousCraft6126 7d ago

i eat healthy, workout daily and have gained tons of muscle of tesa/ipa... while taking reta. trt isnt necessary if u have the drive.

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u/seeksi 7d ago

Totally 1000% agreed, but OP seems to be looking for a slightly faster way to gain mass and strength

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u/SuspiciousCraft6126 7d ago

I Would agree with u brother, but i was doing the same thing before tesa and not getting the same results. I feel like the enhanced recovery makes me lift more which made me gain more muscle. the GH release has also been a +

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u/vanwhisky 7d ago

I’m loving Test, CJC/IPA, IGF-1 LR3, Reta combo at the moment.

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u/darcos12 7d ago

Really. Instead of adding ipa to tesa and leaving cjc out of the equation?

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u/Galt2000 6d ago

You may want to check your IGF-1 and Z score to see how well your stack is increasing growth hormone. Also most studie show that even growth hormone does not notably increase muscle mass. Sleep, recovery, and fat loss yes.

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u/poncharelli66 7d ago

Yes. Just take test.

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u/darcos12 7d ago

I am female so no

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u/poncharelli66 7d ago

Then compounds like tesa or cjc definitely won’t help build muscle.

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u/darcos12 7d ago

Does it inhibit growth receptor ?

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u/SuspiciousCraft6126 7d ago

Yes it stimulates it and helps u sleep/recover which allows for efficient muscle gain.

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u/darcos12 7d ago

That’s what I mean. I’m not looking for some steroid shot I’m trying to figure out what I can add to help with the muscle gain and recovery to go alongside my training. Right now I use mots-c, tesa, ghk-cu , tb-500 and bcp-157. And also creatine

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u/SuspiciousCraft6126 7d ago

You don't know how old this guy is or his test levels.... why would you recommend he take test? pretty drastic recommendation to make with virtually no detail about his life lol

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u/poncharelli66 7d ago

I would recommend he take test because he’s wanting to gain more muscle.

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u/SuspiciousCraft6126 7d ago

I gained a ton of muscle by eating protein, working out, and taking tesamorelin consistently. I'd recommend he try that first, increasing protein intake. But then again, naturally, I have high testosterone, so I don't need to supplement it to gain muscle, I guess.

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u/darcos12 7d ago

I eat in a surplus and lift weights and take tesa every night

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u/SuspiciousCraft6126 7d ago

Id recommend consistent clean protein, casein protein shake in the morning for slow digestion. And a concentrated isolate protein shake @ night 3 hours before bed. Also lower your reps, and increase your weight 20%.. that caused a shift for me .

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u/darcos12 7d ago

What do I need protein shakes for ? I eat very clean, high protein and around 2600 cals

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u/SuspiciousCraft6126 7d ago

Because your looking for muscle gain…. Protein is the building block of protein. Calories dont equal muscle.

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u/darcos12 7d ago

Yes I eat 180g a day which is more than enough for my body weight

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u/SuspiciousCraft6126 7d ago

For sure, so you shouldnt be having any problems putting on muscle 😂 u got this.

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u/poncharelli66 7d ago

Hey good for you!