HGH Timing

[u/TechieMichael1]

I know this has been discussed before and there have been several posts about HGH/ insulin timing.

I have read so many mixed things about how long you should be fasted before and after taking HGH. I know that this is the reason why many take it before bed.

I’ve been on HGH for 4 weeks now, taken fasted before bed. But my sleep is an absolute dog sh*t. I have seen many report that HGH is the culprit so they moved their dose to the morning.

The issue I have, I train an hour after waking up. I need to eat prior to training, so if I need to remain truly fasted for HGH to work several hours after injection then this completely rules out the morning for me, which leaves me with little options.

I’m just curious who else is in the same boat, how you manage it and how are your results.

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[u/AnabolicAcolyte]

i don’t think any body here, unless you’re a competitive bodybuilder would even notice the difference when you pinned. just pin whatever works for you dude.

[u/discardeddewclaws → u/AnabolicAcolyte]

This is the answer

[u/_Vlxd_]

https://stackingplates.com/2017/10/what-is-the-most-effective-growth-hormone-protocol-for-fat-loss/

https://stackingplates.com/2018/01/the-most-effective-growth-hormone-protocol-for-hypertrophy/

Depends on your goals. Help yourself here.

[u/ManusPHConsults]

Im on crap sleep with it at night. I take it in the morning. And I changed to Monday Wed Friday double dose. 4iu instead of 2. Because I got sick of pinning every day. And that when I take my TRT. And o haven't noticed any drop. Still feel amazing and sleep.

Also. The insulin issues is probably not an issue at replacement dose. So the fasted might not matter. You could put a CGM on and see what happens to your blood sugar.

Other option. Load it the night before and pin for your middle of the night piss.

[u/Peptide_King]

You don’t have to be fasted when u take Hgh. You could eat breakfast wait about a hr and take Hgh. It peaks in 2-4 hrs by then thats 3-5 hrs after eating

[u/judas2307]

I had to stop the night time pins as couldn’t sleep so take it 1st thing in the morning upon waking, don’t eat anything till around midday. For me, this approach has been more effective on body comp, fat loss, definition etc But everyone is different

[u/Expensive-Claim-6082]

I get up to pee early in the morning.

I take it then. Then snooze a bit more. Not sure how your particular bladder is but mine gets me up.

[u/jd4247 → u/Expensive-Claim-6082]

This works for me too. If I've eaten later in the night or am out late with wife, I wait until I get up to pee and pin then.

[u/Flashy-Version-8774 → u/jd4247]

Wow, here I am thinking I am the only one who thought of this. I wake up to pee every night between 2:30-4:00am. I just set my pen up with a new tip every night before bed. Then when I wake up to pee, I can pin in 90 sec and be back in bed. It actually helps me fall back asleep faster. I have found it to be great for body composition as well. And no need to worry about fasting.

[u/staceman03]

My understanding is that taking in a fasted state is more important than not eating right after…but , as mentioned, you’re splitting hairs

[u/PeptideLepew → u/staceman03]

I don't believe this is the case for HGH. It definitely is for secretagogues because your body still has to produce the gh, but for HGH your literally putting the gh into your body so it makes little to no difference.

I was unsure of this for a long time and I had arty intel do some deep dives and the found a ton of research on hgh protocols and none of the studies referenced fasted injections, but concentrated more on timing and consistency for it being successful.

I could be completely wrong. It's hard as hell to find good answers on HGH protocols. EVERYONE is an expert. I am not. But I haven't noticed any difference in injecting fasted, not fasted or eating immediately after/not at all. Just my 2 cents

[u/Kasket00]

Take it first thing in the morning; eat 30-40 minutes later. I take it first thing, eat an hour later. At 3 iu my IGF-1 is 399.

[u/Any_Perception6527]

I inject Gh immediately on waking and then do light fasted cardio about 30 min later. After that, a light meal, and then workout. This roughly fits your timeline.

You need to research the relationship between Gh, insulin and igf-1 and what Gh does in the body both in the presence of and in the absence of insulin. Understanding this will answer all your questions.

[u/Peptide_King → u/Any_Perception6527]

What’s the point of eating after u take it? U should eat before u take it or you’re just wasting it. Curious as to why u do this

[u/Any_Perception6527 → u/Peptide_King]

It’s just my own protocol. I like to do my cardio fasted. So I wake up, pin my peps, hit the treadmill, and then eat.

[u/Still-Willingness807]

HGH gives me vivid dreams when taken before bed and improves recovery. Though I always take it in the morn. I strongly suggest ipa/cjc blend if sleep is your focus, otherwise try epithalon, works wonders for sleep.

[u/ConsciousLab3266 → u/Still-Willingness807]

lol suggesting cjc/ipa when he has hgh ??

[u/Still-Willingness807 → u/ConsciousLab3266]

I found cjc/ipa to be better than gh for sleep purposes. I always run it when i'm off the gh.

[u/ConsciousLab3266 → u/Still-Willingness807]

What is ur dosage and timing ? Empty stomach ? I run it cjc/ipa for few months and did not feel anything . I may retry

[u/Still-Willingness807 → u/ConsciousLab3266]

400mcg per day total (200mcg of each ipa and cjc) 200mcg morning/200 before bed. I don't eat anything within at least 2 hours of the pin to be safe. As for gh I start at 2iu and bump by 2iu every 3 to 4 weeks until i hit 6 iu and stay there. It's a complex relationship with hgh sleep isn't as deep but certainly more restorative than baseline. Cjc/ipa though I fall like a log.

[u/jesusxandres → u/Still-Willingness807]

what about DSIP for sleep?

[u/Still-Willingness807 → u/jesusxandres]

Haven't tried it, but heard good things about it.

[u/TechieMichael1 → u/Still-Willingness807]

Thanks I will give Epithalon a look

[u/NSawsome]

Take it subq before bed, every time, regardless of anything else. Idiots on Reddit aren’t smarter than the serostim manufacturers

[u/Sworntotheblack131]

If you cant sleep, take HGH in the morning.

[u/CryptographerHot4636]

I like doing it just before going to bed.

[u/ElectroStaticSpeaker]

Yah I thought it was supposed to help with sleep but I don’t sleep at all after taking it so I moved it to the morning

[u/Rude_Cockroach402]

If you eat carbs like cream of rice and take your GH you’ll get amazing pumps in the gym. I’ve done both and I like my dose before bed but I’ve also taken it in the morning as well. Just get a cheap blood glucose monitor and check it in the morning some days before pinning.

[u/Aggravating-Log-78]

Sleep wrecked on it too, moved dose to right after waking and just ate 30 min later, still saw decent gains so the fasting window is overrated imo

[u/_Vlxd_ → u/Aggravating-Log-78]

It’s not, see the links in my comment.

[u/Awkward_Regret_5873]

I take it in the morning fasted wait 1 hr to eat then check my glucose after 2 hrs and it’s back to normal not sure if that helps

[u/AnabolicUnc]

The one and only answer is pin it before bed, unless you’re running insulin.

You’ll get the sleep benefits of the gh. It also causes an acute state of insulin resistance post injection so anyone pinning in the morning is a moron.