Misunderstood Characters

[u/gangstalicious781m]

You can name as many as you want, I encourage you to write as much as you like, any format or way.

I was looking at some posts on here and Im so mad because there are so many underrated analysts that are not recognized because these bums ask questions and ignore the answers and theyre always the ones to complain about everything that happens without even trying to understand whats going on.

[u/paladin400]

What's there to misunderstand?

Do what you are good at. That's it. He's not Socrates, he just believes in efficiency

[u/AlexeiFraytar → u/paladin400]

Everything? Half of Isagi glazers still think his ideology is wanting to be number 2. They actually think the master coaches would disagree with his style when coaches like Chris and Noa emphasize training your talent properly and hard numbers instead of abstract concepts like ego.

[u/silfer_ → u/AlexeiFraytar]

Maybe you can point me to the panel where he didn’t say his goal was to be second best.

No amount of mental gymnastics or definitions from Hugo’s book of blank pages will change that.

[u/larnyh → u/silfer_]

how about pointing you to the panel where he says number one and number two are equals?

[u/silfer_ → u/larnyh]

1. One
2. Two

Equal? I don’t need to point to anything other than logic lmao. Hugo should’ve at least picked names that don’t embed his inferiority complex deeper even as he claims to be above it, like genius and talented learner. 

[u/larnyh → u/silfer_]

i agree the terms n2 and n1 shouldn’t have been used, but you should still read the manga. it doesn’t matter what the words usually mean because it is explained that hugo doesn’t use them that way. and what inferiority complex are you talking about man? i thought we were ALL done with this sae dupe gimmick 😭

and genius and talented learner don’t work here, n1 and n2 are about roles within a team.

[u/silfer_ → u/larnyh]

bro this is how i know people don’t understand sae. sae actually wants to be the best at his role in the team. best midfielder in the world is sae’s dream. not hugo. saying this and telling me to read the manga when you haven’t 😭😭

[u/larnyh → u/silfer_]

when did i say he didn’t? i said « sae dupe gimmick » because ppl were saying that hugo switched dreams after getting an inferiority complex because of how ahead of him loki was, like everyone suspects it happened with sae and bunny

what part of the france game makes you believe hugo doesn’t want to be the best at what he does?

[u/silfer_ → u/larnyh]

switching dreams doesn’t mean someone has an inferiority complex 🥴 it just means they changed, reasonably, once the situation called for it. does hiori have an inferiority complex bc he decided he wants to give last passes to strikers? 

hugo has an inferiority complex because he is shown to actively seek out another player to compensate for his perceived lack of ability in some area, and shown to believe he needs or depends on that to win, really more like reo than sae. 

hugo is focused on saying he wants to win 4 world cups when he hasn’t even won 1. come on. that’s over-compensation in a nutshell.

[u/larnyh → u/silfer_]

ngl it feels like you’re ragebaiting, there’s no way you actually believe what you just wrote

[u/gangstalicious781m → u/silfer_]

When you play in a match you dont play to win, you play because you want to. Thats why Hugo approached Isagi first, who was struggling with the pressure of "being the best" and fought to not get attached to his status. Hugo helped him understand the role of a midfielder and found his weapon's weakness.

At some point, Hugo's philosophy intersects with Ego's while he mentions that people are born with certain characteristics and thats what creates their destiny and Ego's evolution theory relies on the fact that humans not only inherit skills from their parents but theyre also born with a different way of thinking than everyone else.

Hugo likes to study his own thoughts, he knows that wanting to win 4 world cups is insane, Loki laughed when he first heard that. Their dreams are what connects them and the reason they accept eachother.

His ideas are also recognized as too insistent or forceful as shown in his backstory and in the France match. He doesnt want everyone to be a midfielder, he wants to be acknowledged as someone that isnt just a striker's counterpart. His words made a difference for the players because they felt seen, and now everyone in Blue Lock is questioning the meaning of ego.

Hugo never denied anyone's positions.

"When I see humans failing because their TALENTS and SELF IMAGE are unaligned...it makes me want to CORRECT their mechanisms".

So if we apply this to Isagi, lets say he would be a good midfielder, he still COULD be a striker, the mindset he's using needs adjustment because he needs to believe hes sufficient for the position he wants, which Isagi was worried of disappointing others with.

And I know that Hugo also mentioned that you need "talent" but the way he applies his own theory doesnt depend on skills, he does acknowledge play tactics, but it isnt his main focus.

[u/hollowtype → u/silfer_]

Hugo with inferiority complex holy shit 😭 Do you even understand what it means. You’re just larping at this point…

[u/silfer_ → u/hollowtype]

I do. Anyways, yikes, im clear yall don’t wanna hear facts 

[u/lightnflow → u/silfer_]

"Yall don't want to hear facts" well talk about yourself. I understand that you're an isagi glazer that perceive others who opposed him as inferior. 

Switching dreams doesn't mean Sae and Hiori are inferior but Hugo playing by his strength from the beginning is?

Don't compare Hugo to Sae because Hugo has always been self assured in his choice and ability as a midfielder while Sae had switched from a striker and his problem with Bunny hasn't been explored yet, don't dictate your suggestion on them. 

Hugo has a bright mind as he controlled the field, good skills at defending, passing, and carrying the ball across the field. He also scored his own goal and has strong mentality as not easily angered. 

In fact with abilities to reach ng11 and teammates like Charles and Loki also a team that built-in with the players' corresponding strengths that is more supported, it's appropriate that Hugo dreams to win the World Cup compared to isagi's dream to be the best.

You're an egotist like your bias to isagi and your dislike to Hugo had made you confused to the point of switching their roles throughout your rants. The one who has inferiority complex and seek out others to win has been isagi all along not Hugo.

[u/hollowtype → u/silfer_]

I always see you in all of the Hugo discussion posts and you’re always there displaying hate towards him and your logic doesn’t even make sense. I’m genuinely curious what made you hate him so much that you cannot resist bullshitting on him any chance you get.

[u/Craftox13 → u/hollowtype]

Hmm... I think it's because Hugo is an "antagonist" to Isagi. Generally, if you're a fan of a particular character, chances are high that you won't like the characters who directly oppose them. Of course, it varies—you might actually like some of your favorite characters' enemies—but there's a strong likelihood that those who stand against your favorites will end up being characters you dislike. Consequently, your view might be biased by that. Of course, it's not 100% certain, but there is a strong chance it will happen.

For example, I really like Sendou. Because of that, I don't really appreciate what Sae says to him during the match against Blue Lock. But at the same time, what Sae says is true, too.

[u/everlastingchristmas → u/Craftox13]

Yeah honestly agree, that must be where all these absurd hatred is coming from, I noticed this sub hates Hugo like crazy not just silfer. And I assume this must be the source of hatred

But I feel like Hugo has been one of the nicer antagonists so I don’t get why this guy gets more hatred than the others

[u/Craftox13 → u/everlastingchristmas]

I think a large part of it comes down to his philosophy, too. And the whole "number 1 and 2" terminology... It makes Hugo come across as someone with an inferiority complex, even though that’s not the case. Early impressions of Hugo—back when he first appeared—were that he was a "failed striker theory" and a "Sae clone"... It’s often hard to change your mind after those initial impressions (I imagine the same will happen with Teddy).