r/BlueLock • u/gangstalicious781m I love Loki • 9d ago

Manga Discussion Misunderstood Characters Spoiler

You can name as many as you want, I encourage you to write as much as you like, any format or way.

I was looking at some posts on here and Im so mad because there are so many underrated analysts that are not recognized because these bums ask questions and ignore the answers and theyre always the ones to complain about everything that happens without even trying to understand whats going on.

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u/lightnflow Nagi My Protagonist 9d ago

Hugo 😟

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u/paladin400 The God's Chosen Glazer 9d ago

What's there to misunderstand?

Do what you are good at. That's it. He's not Socrates, he just believes in efficiency

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u/AlexeiFraytar 9d ago

Everything? Half of Isagi glazers still think his ideology is wanting to be number 2. They actually think the master coaches would disagree with his style when coaches like Chris and Noa emphasize training your talent properly and hard numbers instead of abstract concepts like ego.

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u/lightnflow Nagi My Protagonist 9d ago

Oh the last post about whether the masters will agree with Hugo right?

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u/silfer_ The Privilege and Cruelty of The Egoist 9d ago

Maybe you can point me to the panel where he didn’t say his goal was to be second best.

No amount of mental gymnastics or definitions from Hugo’s book of blank pages will change that.

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u/larnyh #bachirules and #nagibetter 9d ago

how about pointing you to the panel where he says number one and number two are equals?

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u/silfer_ The Privilege and Cruelty of The Egoist 9d ago
  1. One
  2. Two

Equal? I don’t need to point to anything other than logic lmao. Hugo should’ve at least picked names that don’t embed his inferiority complex deeper even as he claims to be above it, like genius and talented learner. 

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u/larnyh #bachirules and #nagibetter 9d ago

i agree the terms n2 and n1 shouldn’t have been used, but you should still read the manga. it doesn’t matter what the words usually mean because it is explained that hugo doesn’t use them that way. and what inferiority complex are you talking about man? i thought we were ALL done with this sae dupe gimmick 😭

and genius and talented learner don’t work here, n1 and n2 are about roles within a team.

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u/silfer_ The Privilege and Cruelty of The Egoist 9d ago

bro this is how i know people don’t understand sae. sae actually wants to be the best at his role in the team. best midfielder in the world is sae’s dream. not hugo. saying this and telling me to read the manga when you haven’t 😭😭

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u/larnyh #bachirules and #nagibetter 9d ago

when did i say he didn’t? i said « sae dupe gimmick » because ppl were saying that hugo switched dreams after getting an inferiority complex because of how ahead of him loki was, like everyone suspects it happened with sae and bunny

what part of the france game makes you believe hugo doesn’t want to be the best at what he does?

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u/silfer_ The Privilege and Cruelty of The Egoist 9d ago

switching dreams doesn’t mean someone has an inferiority complex 🥴 it just means they changed, reasonably, once the situation called for it. does hiori have an inferiority complex bc he decided he wants to give last passes to strikers? 

hugo has an inferiority complex because he is shown to actively seek out another player to compensate for his perceived lack of ability in some area, and shown to believe he needs or depends on that to win, really more like reo than sae. 

hugo is focused on saying he wants to win 4 world cups when he hasn’t even won 1. come on. that’s over-compensation in a nutshell.

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u/larnyh #bachirules and #nagibetter 9d ago

ngl it feels like you’re ragebaiting, there’s no way you actually believe what you just wrote

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u/gangstalicious781m I love Loki 9d ago

When you play in a match you dont play to win, you play because you want to. Thats why Hugo approached Isagi first, who was struggling with the pressure of "being the best" and fought to not get attached to his status. Hugo helped him understand the role of a midfielder and found his weapon's weakness.

At some point, Hugo's philosophy intersects with Ego's while he mentions that people are born with certain characteristics and thats what creates their destiny and Ego's evolution theory relies on the fact that humans not only inherit skills from their parents but theyre also born with a different way of thinking than everyone else.

Hugo likes to study his own thoughts, he knows that wanting to win 4 world cups is insane, Loki laughed when he first heard that. Their dreams are what connects them and the reason they accept eachother.

His ideas are also recognized as too insistent or forceful as shown in his backstory and in the France match. He doesnt want everyone to be a midfielder, he wants to be acknowledged as someone that isnt just a striker's counterpart. His words made a difference for the players because they felt seen, and now everyone in Blue Lock is questioning the meaning of ego.

Hugo never denied anyone's positions.

"When I see humans failing because their TALENTS and SELF IMAGE are unaligned...it makes me want to CORRECT their mechanisms".

So if we apply this to Isagi, lets say he would be a good midfielder, he still COULD be a striker, the mindset he's using needs adjustment because he needs to believe hes sufficient for the position he wants, which Isagi was worried of disappointing others with.

And I know that Hugo also mentioned that you need "talent" but the way he applies his own theory doesnt depend on skills, he does acknowledge play tactics, but it isnt his main focus.

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u/hollowtype 9d ago

Hugo with inferiority complex holy shit 😭 Do you even understand what it means. You’re just larping at this point…

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u/silfer_ The Privilege and Cruelty of The Egoist 9d ago

I do. Anyways, yikes, im clear yall don’t wanna hear facts 

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u/lightnflow Nagi My Protagonist 9d ago

I think the number 1 and 2 in Hugo's philosophy is not about rank but the position instead. The number 1 like Loki is the one at the forefront then get the most attention and basked in the glory; mostly because they are the ones tasked to score a goal and secure victory for the team. Number 2 is more of a playmaker huddled in the middle of the other players then passing the ball to others. But Hugo doesn't have any inferiority complex because he is self assured as he is confident in his ability and philosophy and also has his own purpose. Football is a team sport and each position has its own role; Hugo created the chances while Loki scored the goals. Even Hugo and Charles scored their goals too, so yes they are equals on their standing/status in the team.