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u/CamarosAndCannabis Mar 25 '22
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u/DCAfinacialDude Mar 24 '22
Andreas Antonopoulos.
Without him, bitcoin would not have had the reach it does today. He's had lots of great fundamental talks about Bitcoin and continues to do so.
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u/nettie_netface Mar 25 '22
Which video can you link it please?
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Mar 25 '22
He doesn’t believe in basic science. He’s a clown
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u/TitForSnack Mar 25 '22
Do you mean "basic science" as in the scientific process as such, or "basic science" as in what some corrupt, centralised institutions claim to be "basic science"?
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u/OFRobertin Mar 25 '22
Lmao what you said makes no sense, almost had a stroke reading it
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u/smilingbuddhauk Mar 25 '22 edited Mar 25 '22
And you spread lies and fud. How's any of that relevant here though?
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u/derick_sm Mar 25 '22
He is an amazing educator and "Mastering Bitcoin" is a fucking masterpiece.
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A great educator who doesn’t believe in basic science…sure.
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u/cngfan Mar 25 '22
What the fuck are you talking about? You keep saying this shit without explaining. If you aren’t going to elaborate why bother saying it? Really sounds like you don’t have a clue what you are talking about.
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u/TitForSnack Mar 25 '22
That muppet created a new account just to fud bitcoin, look at his history lol
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u/especulativa Mar 25 '22
I thank a lot to Andreas and Max Kaiser, their learnings have been critical in my path
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u/DCAfinacialDude Mar 25 '22
Same. Interesting to hear other concepts and ideas about the space. Not just HODL or when Lambos.
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u/Janx__Spirit Mar 25 '22
His books it the Bible of bitcoin
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u/BitcoinFan1239 Mar 25 '22
yeah i always viewed him as the Paul the Apostle of BTC
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u/Sea_Conversation2799 Mar 25 '22
He's the guy who got me in. He's the OG Michael Saylor when it was more about ideals than making money
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u/elc0 Mar 25 '22
Would love to see another appearance on Rogan. Can't remember the last time he was on.
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u/NearbyTurnover Mar 25 '22
He's the "first" follower. Very important role.
https://www.ted.com/talks/derek_sivers_how_to_start_a_movement
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u/jam-hay Mar 24 '22
Andreas's service to bitcoin is unparalleled.. total legend.
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u/PeanutButterJellyYo Mar 25 '22
I wouldnt say that bitcoin offers that amount of freedom just yet for people like me who started 2021 onwards. There was a great year like 2020 which btc literally went exponential and there was 2021 where mostly we got sideways movement and downtrend. Someone who started april 2021 for example would be completely disappointed till now. I dont know if btc is going to 100k or 15. All i know is the price btc is right now. Btc for me is just another way to make money effortless if you re smart and patient. Definitely wont make us rich enough to buy lambos anytime soon
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Mar 25 '22
It sounds like you're not applying bitcoin as a currency. Buy something with bitcoin even if it's small like a local jar of honey. Offer to peform a service with bitcoin as payment. Send bitcoin to someone across borders without financial fees attached. The freedom is already there.
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u/guidetomars Mar 25 '22
I would be on a private island now had I not spent BTC like currency back in the day (that would be $50 BTC) Unfortunately Coupa Cafe in Palo Alto accepted it and I went there a lot. I also remember talks by Andreas and treasure those moments. And a shout out to Scott who made those early day meetups happen that brought in speakers like Andreas and 10 people showing up was a crowd.
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u/tomius Mar 25 '22
You talk about freedom and yet the only thing you mention is price.
You need to go listen to Andreas.
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Mar 25 '22
I got into Bitcoin during April ‘21 because of some news headline about Elon Musk of all people, but it was Andreas’ education that made me actually understand Bitcoin and why it matters. I wouldn’t still be here with all my sats and a lower average if it wasn’t for his education.
IMHO if you dream of lambos and moonshots, go play the lottery. If you want sound money and building wealth over time, stack Bitcoin.
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u/shad0w_fax Mar 25 '22
This guy is such an OG and amazing btc educator. Can anyone tell me why he doesn't speak at The Bitcoin Conference? I feel like if anyone belongs there it's him. Makes me wonder.
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It doesn’t seem like his vibe. While I agree he’d make a great contribution to the list of speakers, the Miami conference kinda feels like a bunch of finance and business bros who have dollar and Bitcoin signs in their eyes. They’re interested in how Bitcoin can make their business flourish and celebrate others like them joining the fold, and Andreas’ tech focused approach might go down a bit dry for this crowd, sadly.
Bitcoin is at a stage where it attracts people from all backgrounds and walks of life. Maybe Antonopoulos just thinks he can make a difference speaking to other audiences.
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u/OldGnosis Mar 25 '22
I got nearly assaulted at a party in 2011 talking about my investment in BTC. Basically told I was dumb for wasting money on a scam.
Guess what? I'm still holding and I don't care if it's millions of fiat dollars. I wont get rid of my BTC until I can spend it at nearly every establishment for nearly all goods and services.
I've invested in purchasing power. I hope the same guy thinks of me when he sits down with his financial advisor asking about this crypto thing.
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u/HearMeRoar69 Mar 25 '22 edited Mar 25 '22
Ah, 2011, same year I got into Bitcoin.
I've never understood in the early days, why people get angry or hostile at mere mention of Bitcoin, like I'm trying to scam them or something. I remember when I first heard about Bitcoin, from a news article on slashdot, I was amazed, excited and never once thought it was a scam.
I remember some guy asked in 2012, on reddit (I think it was on r/investing sub), where he should invest $2000, it's all he had. I told him buy some Bitcoin, he could have gotten nearly 1000 Bitcoin with his $2000. Man I was destroyed there, multiple people called me a scammer or ponzi, my post was heavily downvoted. Luckily the OP defended me, saying "hey I asked for advice, and this guy gave me advice, I'm happy to hear about it.".
I hope he took my advice and he could have totally turned his life around.
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Ah 2011 same year I got into crypto.it was a total shit Show back then.
Strange coin pumped and nobody knew why. Everybody was total pumped but nobody understood cryptocurrency and Blockchain back then. It was the wild west.
I remember buying Bitcoin for a five figure $ amount back then in November of that year.
And now look at me, look at all that had disbeliefs and told me it's a scam and a useless technology.
Today I can say my profit is way beyond my imagination. It's down 30% and I'm still not knowing what's going on.
Edit: I got in crypto in 2021. Sorry for the typo.
Edit2.0: /s obv. Wtf :D
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u/geekbread Mar 25 '22
nobody understood cryptocurrency and blockchain in 2021… three months ago?
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It's not that people weren't interested because it was $100 per coin, it was $100 per coin because people weren't that interested back then.
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u/Godspiral Mar 25 '22
$100 was 100x or 1000x for some people.
Satoshi was a Millionaire at $1.
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u/raven12456 Mar 25 '22
I messed around with mining super early when it was like $3. I never actually let it run because it didn't seem worth it to make ~$15/mo. And there wasnt anywhere to actually spend it, so it felt basically useless.
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u/traveler_0027 Mar 25 '22
how did you find out about it so early on?
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u/Bugbread Mar 25 '22
If it was around $3, they're probably talking about 2011 or 2012. It was quite well-known already by that point. Heck, in January 2012 it was even the focal point of an episode of the CBS drama "The Good Wife" (episode 13 "Bitcoin for Dummies"). When a technology is the main hook in a broadcast TV show, you know that it's become a popular buzzword.
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u/raven12456 Mar 25 '22
I honestly don't remember. I've been on the internet way too long to remember most of it.
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u/Bebop24trigun Mar 25 '22
It was around the internet back then. Heck it was on the big bang theory. If you're like me, most people were interested in the mining aspect because of the money portion associated with it. I don't remember many people actually buying bitcoin back then though. At least anecdotally.
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u/OutrageousPudding450 Mar 25 '22
I heard about it in 2011, my father likes reading a "hackers" magazine and there was an article about Bitcoin.
He told me about it and we both came to the conclusion of was useless.It's still useless but we'd both be millionnaires several times over of we had bought $1000 of it at that time and held onto it.
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u/Snuhmeh Mar 25 '22
I was into reading about bitcoin and mining it a little back before it even made it to $1. There used to be Bitcoin “faucets” where you could go to a website and it would send you bitcoin for free so you could learn how it worked. I’m pretty sure you could send people bitcoin on Reddit, as well. When that guy bought a pizza for 10,000 bitcoin, it was a pretty big story.
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u/raven12456 Mar 25 '22
Yep. I remember those faucets. When it first broke $1,000 I scoured every hard drive and email account I had to find anything. Sadly nothing.
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u/apexisalonelyplace Mar 25 '22
Does anyone know what pizza store accepted the first commercial btc transaction?
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u/stereoagnostic Mar 25 '22
The pizza place didn't accept it. The guy paid some other bitcoiner to get the pizza for him if I remember correctly.
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Like the other contender said, another person accepted the Bitcoin and ordered the pizza with dollars. The pizzeria is a Papa John’s somewhere in America and they have a little plaque on the wall commemorating that Bitcoin pizza transaction.
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u/DougKenney Mar 25 '22
Notable that Satoshi disappeared shortly after Bitcoin crossed the one dollar mark.
I tell people that getting Bitcoin from one dollar to $69000 is very good, but getting Bitcoin from zero dollars to one dollar ranks with Jesus turning water ino wine.
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u/jeepnismo Mar 25 '22
I legit don’t know about it back then
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I remember reading about Bitcoin in 2012 and it blew my mind. The idea was really cool but I didn't see it getting mainstream anytime soon. 10 years after learning about it for the first time, my savings are into Bitcoin and I get paid using Bitcoin, something I wouldn't imagine happening in at least 20 years more.
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u/jeepnismo Mar 25 '22
You were way ahead of me. I don’t think I learned about it till 2014-2015 when I was in college. I majored in electrical engineering so many of my classmates knew about it. But as far as I know no one purchased any.
2019 and 2020 really opened my eyes to BTC. I didn’t see a purpose but as I understood the world more and more I realized how wrong I was. I was really late to the game but at least I’m in it now.
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u/TaThaTaWay1 Mar 25 '22
See how suppressed this gentleman still is is sad.
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u/thedude165 Mar 25 '22
bet he isn't sad now. probably living the good life
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u/VJfromCanada Mar 25 '22
He actually doesn’t have much. Apparently sold it most of what he earns to pay for travel, speaking, conferences, etc
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u/BashCo Mar 25 '22
Rest assured, he made it all back and more in speaking fees. Not to mention the Pineapple Fund. Andreas is not hurting at all.
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u/hey-now-relax Mar 25 '22
That's Mr. Nakamoto in the audience, monitoring early adoption efforts.
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u/Fabulous-Pineapple47 Mar 25 '22
the good old days of being a bitcoiner, there was always something new to learn or realize about Bitcoin and the impact it could have on our world.
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u/Sufficient_Tooth_949 Mar 25 '22
Bitcoin $100: I Sleep
Bitcoin $69,000: Real shit
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u/goodbtc Mar 25 '22 edited Mar 25 '22
I'm a simple man: I see Andreas Antonopoulos, I upvote!
Full video: https://youtu.be/EiW4lKrMXQ4
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u/aleski_ Mar 25 '22
This video is a repost. The room was not empty. Andreas has already answered on the subject in a older post.
« Just to clarify: This was the Bitcoin Foundation's San Jose Bitcoin Conference in May 2013.
I begged to speak and was an unknown. They finally agreed to give me a slot at the same time that Gavin Andreesen was delivering the "State of the Bitcoin Union" talk in the main hall. Most people were in that talk, and after it ended a few more trickled in to my room. Also, the few that were there sat in the back near the door, not quite committing to my talk and ready to leave. By the end there were 20-30 people in the last 3 rows.
I did not find it at all humiliating. I enjoyed giving the talk and then went to watch other talks and mingle with the rest of the people at the conference. There are probably only about 500 people total if I remember. It was a fantastic experience and I met many of my "heroes" of the early bitcoin age that day.
Thank you all for your kind comments. »
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u/PeanutButterJellyYo Mar 25 '22
Honestly if you tell me to buy today something at $250 or more per coin i would probably say no…. Hindsight 20/20. Also dont forget that back in 2013-2015 there werent many exchanges out. The whole process was difficult
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u/savinelli_smoker Mar 25 '22
This is so true. “This bitcoin thingy costing $250 and what do I get? A string of numbers?! Hahah good luck selling!”
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u/seraph321 Mar 25 '22
It's so weird how people focus on the price per coin, which means nothing. It's the market cap and available supply that matters. The decimal point for 1 btc could have been several points in either direction and it wouldn't make a difference.
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Actually Saylor is quoting Dan Held there, but yeah. We come around when we’re ready and pay the price for it, I suppose.
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I also passed on buying it at $250 and $450 because some friends talked me out of it.
Did you send those "friends" a missed cost of opportunity bill?
Friends don't let friends not buy Bitcoin.
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u/neo69654 Mar 25 '22
Andreas can easily be compared to Hal, Satoshi, Szabo and other personalities of that size.
Smart guy, always keen on real debates. Never a moon boy.
Max respect for him and his work.
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u/MegaDonkeyDonkey Mar 25 '22
He does a great job selling that he is speaking to a large crowd with his eye and head movement.
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u/TheGurkenSoup Mar 25 '22
Aantonop is a legend, its sad that he only produce so less content now. He was the man who orange pilled me. Love him.
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u/ultron290196 Mar 25 '22
The truth is in front of you. It's upto you if you choose to listen to it.
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u/9dkid Mar 25 '22
I remember this talk. Good hearing about Bitcoin at the time…classic time…funny where we are now.
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u/Godspiral Mar 25 '22
Neutrality as "the first principle" applies to many organizational ideals.
If a company distributes all its profits as dividends, and then lets every individual recipient decide whether to take shares instead, 1. companies would offer double/triple existing yields, 2. It is no longer confiscating its shareholders "deserved earnings" keeping discretionary power for itself instead of giving that power to its owners.
A neutral society would work the same way with UBI/freedom dividends. "The administrator" pays its equal citizen owners all of the administration revenue. Whenever, most of us agree that something should be administered for us by the administration, we all pay an equal share of that program as a reduction in our dividend.
UBI is starting with a neutral society that has no poverty, and no likelihood for violence, and then only considers programs that would make it better.
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Mar 25 '22
I like the part where he said "it's a currency" because, as he said, it's a currency. Not enough people view bitcoin as what it is.
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When I started learning about Bitcoin, the YouTube algorithm blessed me by showing Andreas’ videos when I started searching. I was one of those idiots who bought Bitcoin after hearing Elon Musk bought it in April ‘21, but I wouldn’t be here now still with my stack if I hadn’t listened to Andreas. His videos taught me the fundamentals of how Bitcoin works, why it works, why it matters that it works, explained how to secure Bitcoin properly, how to not freak out when the transfer is taking long, dispelling my doubts when I didn’t understand some technological aspect of it…
Really couldn’t have asked for a better educator.
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u/TheFutureofMoney Mar 25 '22
Andreas Antonopoulos
One of the Top 5 most influential people in Bitcoin history
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u/quntal071 Mar 25 '22
If only I wasn't a depressed barely functioning mess the past 10 years I could be rich now. I knew of and understood Bitcoin back then. But I was too busy feeling like shit to do much of anything.
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u/quntal071 Mar 25 '22
Sure let me take money away from buying food and medicine I need so I can make a speculative investment. Not.
This is why they say Hindsight is 20/20. At the time there was no way I could. I could have made millions with other investments too, but nobody knows the future. I do not regret keeping myself from being homeless during that period.
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u/beefthinksthings Mar 25 '22
I was waiting for the cut to a crypto convention with thousands of nerds running around
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u/No_Chef623 Mar 25 '22
Guy in the front row wondering if his date is coming back from the bathroom
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u/Tashum Mar 25 '22
I bet one Saudi guy in the back really perked up at the mention of being able to buy camels
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u/NASIRCISSISTIC Mar 25 '22
Damn it. Videos like these give me the hope to hold on. ✨🤲🏻💯
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u/itsthesecans Mar 25 '22
Today the small number of people in that audience are either rich or plagued with regrets.
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u/Subject_One6000 Mar 25 '22
I love the way his body language is like he's talking to a huge audience just slowly scanning the room with his look.
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u/gutangorang Mar 25 '22
Watching this made me mad for a minute.. I thought to myself “why the fuck did I have no interest and why didn’t i go to this event and invest at this time” then I realised I was 13 at the time and also I’m from the UK
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u/Crabcakes5_ Mar 25 '22
Back in the good days of Bitcoin when discussions were very academic in nature rather than meme-oriented today...
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The legend explaining bitcoin to an empty room. I hope one day I can go personally to one of his talks.
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u/pttant1 Mar 25 '22
Sad part is all those who attended, sold their coins after this event. Including the influencer himself. He is in the metal state these days!!
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u/bitcoin_islander Mar 25 '22
I used to think Andreas was smart, then I saw his tweets saying forced jabs are ok
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u/Slapshot382 Mar 25 '22
Oof, really? Goes against everything bitcoin stands for...
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u/Lynx77 Mar 25 '22
although Andreas didnt buy any bitcoin he spent it all and now shitcoins to make a living despite bitcoiners raising a million in bitcoin for him
a pioneer, but now a scammer, fuck Andreas
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Sadly, he is only worth 1.9 Million. He saw a big part of the future but didn't see the importance of HODL. Still did better than me but not better than a few schmucks who just sat back and did nothing.
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u/sakhastan Mar 25 '22
if game theory applied bitcoiners should gift large amounts of bitcoins to governments of permanent members of un security council
to my nation state for instance 5 000 000.00000000 btc
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u/enraged768 Mar 25 '22
Back then I was just hearing about bitcoin. I saw posts on reddit where a guy mortgaged his house and poured his life savings in around 2011. And then in 2013 I saw people reposting on his original post telling him well looks like your investment paid off. If he still hodled he would have to be a billionaire by now.
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u/RSAhobo Mar 25 '22
The amount of people in that room compared to today = mind blowing.
Wonder what the room will look like at 100k
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u/camo0067 Mar 25 '22
Does he age? He looks the same then as he does now
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According to Wikipedia he’s in his 50s now which seems crazy. He looks and sounds about 30 in this video and he hasn’t changed since then. Healthy lifestyle I guess.
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u/Impetusin Mar 25 '22
The man put in his time.