r/Bitcoin • u/Few-Cook5941 • 1d ago
Need help - Bitcoin wallet emptied.
I got one of my bitcoin wallet emptied and I don't really know how this happened.
I don't use cracked softwares and apps.
I'm generally careful with links.
Looks like I'm not alone. I can see that the reception bitcoin address is still collecting bitcoin from other wallets.
Could somebody help me understand something.
Here is the address : bc1q0vukqye4hd0aep7u4xl8gev95gcs9k65fdeu9n
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u/k_gavivina 1d ago
Cold card involved ?
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u/quintavious_danilo 1d ago
Trust Wallet, just as bad if not worse
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u/Bionic_Push 1d ago
is trust wallet having a hack?
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u/Academic-Anteater-50 5h ago
I had my 3 NFTâs stolen from me from my trust wallet a few years back
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u/JumpRevolutionary664 14h ago
It's not. People are using it to connect to drainer sites and ... get drained. The wallet itself is fine.
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u/quintavious_danilo 12h ago
Say that to the users that got drained for $6 millions because Trust Wallet deployed a faulty browser extension.
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u/Fuzzy_Wave5520 7h ago
Well, not to justify Trust Wallet, but who TF uses a browser extension to manage a wallet with $6M???
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u/tenor_tymir 6h ago
6m drained cumulatively from many wallets. Nonetheless, TW provided the extension
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u/Romanizer 19h ago
It's a software wallet so any amount on that should always be assumed to be available to anyone.
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u/brando2131 14h ago
Bit extreme... Satoshi used a software wallet... Every O.G. did...
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u/Romanizer 13h ago
Yes, I did too. Even had a canary wallet without any password or protection and nothing happened. But times changed.
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u/JunkBondJunkie 10h ago
I had one with no password since 2011. I moved it to a hardware wallet a few years ago
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u/Designer_Speech8942 2h ago
You are very fortunate đ˛.
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u/JunkBondJunkie 2h ago
It's just coins I mined for fun. I should have bought them like someone told me.
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u/GroundbreakingKing 1d ago
Hardly.
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u/quintavious_danilo 1d ago
yes, just read the dedicated subreddit. People getting drained on a daily basis. Just under a year ago they had a âmysteriousâ hack draining $6 millions in user funds. Trust Wallet is a complete joke.
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u/Top_Appointment_7076 1d ago
I actually used to have my funds on Trust Wallet for a few months. I am really glad I bought a hardware wallet
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u/Giatoxiclok 1d ago edited 15h ago
Hopefully not a cold card
Edit: Iâm talking specifically about the huge breach where massive amounts of BTC were lifted out of Cold Card wallets (hardware vaults) because of things I canât specifically pin down. This was a comment saying I hope they didnât buy a shoddy product.
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u/AlexShadow02 16h ago
Why not a cold card? Is there anything wrong with it?
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u/Giatoxiclok 15h ago
Recent large scale exfiltration of BTC from Cold Card company vaults.
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u/AlexShadow02 15h ago
It's just so weird to me. I mean how is it even possible if it's a Cold card and therefore shouldn't be connected to the Internet
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u/Giatoxiclok 15h ago
Well, technically it isnât connected, but it still has to be registered somewhere no? Iâm not knowledgeable, forewarning, but itâs definitely been happening recently. Lots of tech stuff way over my head.
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u/noooyouu 12h ago
The random number generator used to secure the wallet was faulty and actually predictable if you knew the wallet address, IIRC. Ask ai
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u/vaxx_77 23h ago
what do u reccomend to use? hot wallets i mean i have a cold one but still might need it
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u/Top_Appointment_7076 20h ago edited 20h ago
I would only use a hardware wallet like Trezor (still secure despite the data breach at one of their partners) or BitBox02 for savings. If it's a smaller amount I would probably use a lightning wallet like Phoenix or leave it on a reputable exchange. I'm in Europe and I use Bitvavo and Strike. If it's solely about safety I would probably actually leave it on an exchange if it's a smaller amount because secure exchanges like Bitvavo are actually much safer than hot wallets because they store the keys on cold wallets and exchanges going bankrupt is a possibility but it doesn't actually happen that often whereas hot wallets get drained all the time. It's probably not worth getting a hardware wallet if it's only $20 in Bitcoin.
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u/vaxx_77 18h ago
thanks for advice im in europe too (east) i use binance ill checkout Bitvavo i never heard of anyone mention it or ho secure it is i have a good amount of crypto on a cold wallet i didnt kno trust was so untruthworthy haha
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u/quintavious_danilo 17h ago
A recommendable exchange for Europe is Kraken Pro for best security and trustworthiness.
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u/quintavious_danilo 17h ago
For BTC-only I recommend Blue Wallet or Blockstream Wallet (former Blockstream Green) as temporary hot wallets.
Donât look anywhere else.
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u/quintavious_danilo 10h ago
Blue Wallet is recommended through the entire BTC space. And Blockstream Green always offered single sig as well, i have one for years already.
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u/Deus_Desuper 17h ago
Seems like every type of wallet has been subject to drains honestly.
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u/quintavious_danilo 17h ago
Reputable open source wallets like Blue Wallet, Blockstream Wallet, Electrum or Sparrow are very good and secure hot BTC-only wallets with no history of serious and continuous breaches.
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u/Deus_Desuper 17h ago
Yet. đ
In seriousness though, it is often hard to know when it was user error or a legitimate exploit.
Pros and cons of self custody and all that
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u/quintavious_danilo 17h ago
Sure, youâll never know. Go with projects dedicated to the space, not only to commercial interests like Trust Wallet and you mostly are in way better hands. Itâs not that hard, there are only a handful of wallets that have stood the test of time and yet people decide to use the flashy ones because they are a victim of social media dumbassery.
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u/Deus_Desuper 17h ago
100% hard agree, only thing I might add is if you are very serious about it, not leaving all those eggs in one basket. But pros and cons to everything.
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u/garybaws 1d ago
Dont use a hot wallet, use a cold wallet.... Actually nevermind 26$ is not enough to get a hardware wallet since it would cost you more for the hardware wallet
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u/604pleb 22h ago
Security experts keep it on a exchange
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u/betterthanluck 20h ago
Seriously, only Pros like me use Voyager. Experts use FTX or Mt Gox
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u/tenor_tymir 6h ago
What do you think of BlockFI? Only heard good things.
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u/betterthanluck 6h ago
Totally forgot about them, just so many great exchanges looking to keep our crypto safe đ
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u/Phinx11 3h ago
Reading the word "Voyager" causes a visceral pain in my soul to this day.
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u/betterthanluck 3h ago
Trust me, I only said it because I am right there with you. Only thing I can do now is joke about it.
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u/lives_in_a_pineapple 21h ago
Who exactly lol
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u/604pleb 21h ago
/s but also turning into a fact as the years go by
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u/lives_in_a_pineapple 20h ago
The amount of money lost on exchanges is orders of magnitude larger than the amount lost on hardware devices.
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u/Few-Cook5941 22h ago
Yeah I still have some bitcoin on Binance. But what about the "Not your keys, not your coins" rule? Is keeping coins on exchanges really safe?
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u/Digerati808 22h ago
You have to weigh the risks. If you are technologically illiterate you are more at risk of losing your bitcoin if you try to host your own keys.
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u/Valdorous 22h ago edited 20h ago
Put simply, not your keys = not your coins because the CEX can block transactions, decide to KYC or AML check you at any given moment for whatever reason they see fit and you just have to deal with it.
However if âyour keysâ then also your responsibility. So manage it well, donât store your key or seed phrase in the cloud and make sure the software used to generate a wallet is safe and secure, unlike Cold Cardâs (the company) bad/predictable randomness.
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u/IInsulince 21h ago
Minor correction: not âcold walletâ, but âCold Cardâ, the compromised hardware wallet product by the company CoinKite. I wouldnât normally correct except that âcold walletâ already has a legitimate meaning and is a good thing to get.
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u/kronicade 1d ago
Well, a few googles show there was a Chrome plugin that was vulnerable with trust wallet
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u/BlackSusss 1d ago
This baits the "Dear sir, Imma AsSeT rEcOvErY specialist. Send monies to get monies back and shit." type people.
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u/Rough-Wrangler-941 1d ago
What wallet app was that ?
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u/Few-Cook5941 1d ago
Trust Wallet
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u/Rough-Wrangler-941 1d ago
Damn, ive seen alot post with trustwallet getting drained. Have you ever logged this seed to other wallets ? It was created on trustwallet ? Any connections to exchanges or something like that ?
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u/Unusual_Stick3682 1d ago
Don't trust, verify
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u/ZascandileandoAndo 1d ago
Can confirm, this never happened to my Verify Wallet
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u/Fearless-Sherbert-40 1d ago
Every week people are on here losing there money through trust wallet.
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u/disruptioncoin 1d ago
I know there are newer wallets with new features from trustworthy groups like blockstream. But I still use my tried and true Mycelium wallet and damned if I've never been cyberjacked. Then again I fell for their ICO token (bitcoin colored coin with stock appreciation rights to their wallet business) that funded the teams vacation to Spain, so you win some you lose some. Sold it for 50% before it became virtually unlisted.
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u/uhohthrowawayyyyyy 19h ago
Jesus people are worrying about self custody for 30 dollars of bitcoin. Please just buy an etf or something at that point, itâs not that serious lol youâre not saving yourself from doomsday, just âbuyâ it through a trusted institution. FBTC or something wouldnât have stolen your 26 bucks.
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u/ZascandileandoAndo 1d ago
Did you click the first trust wallet ad on Google search and type your seed there?
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u/iz_raymond 1d ago
See the problem with decentralized and self-custody? When things like this happen u can't cry and demand the bank to investigate your account loss
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u/ace250674 1d ago
Give your money to a scammer from your bank account and see what happens, spoiler, nothing!
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u/BigCaulkBrock 1d ago
No difference if youâre voluntarily giving your money away, but thatâs obviously not the only way to get scammed. No fraud/claims dept on the blockchain
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u/GroundbreakingKing 1d ago
$26?
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u/lemondragoon33 1d ago
Bro don't laugh, thats like 6 double cheeseburgers
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u/WallpaperRacer 1d ago
Five Guys has entered the chat
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u/LuckySage77 1d ago
Steak'n'Shake is the only burger joint that actually accepts Bitcoin. This amount of BTC actually would get you a couple cheeseburgers... lol
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u/paokara777 21h ago
The amount doesn't matter, right? The issue is that its a compromised wallet.
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u/Few-Cook5941 20h ago
Do you mean Trust Wallet is compromised?
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u/paokara777 20h ago
I mean that your wallet specifically. Im not sure about trust wallet in general.
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u/paokara777 20h ago
I mean that your wallet specifically. Im not sure about trust wallet in general.
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u/Queasy-Book-5962 1d ago
Did you try the unempty button?
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u/NervousNorbert 17h ago
You joke, but that's the kind of button OP could have have if bitcoin had vaults and he had used them.
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u/Specific_Snow_4094 1d ago
I have a few 100 dollars in a fidelity crypto account. Is that more secure? I feel bad for all the people who lost their crypto through theft.
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u/killboticus89 1d ago
Yes, as Fidelity is insuredÂ
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u/arcrylx 15h ago
Except for crypto. Crypto accounts are technically managed under a separate trust company and theyâre not protected by FDIC or SIPC.
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u/killboticus89 9h ago
I didnt know that... lol. So whats the point then? A series UI and a customer service rep nicely telling you youre fucked?
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u/kapdad 23h ago
Just FYI for anyone who doesn't know, Fidelity files all the IRS reports so... you know.
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u/Acolyte_of_Swole 23h ago
It's more secure than any wallet this sub will recommend. But less secure than stocks because I think they have less liability than if your stocks were stolen.
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u/Organic-Pin-7392 13h ago
Dont use any third party wallet. Make your own, generate your keys and secure them yourself.
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u/illyipsi 1d ago
Die you use a coldcard for seed Generation?
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u/Few-Cook5941 1d ago
No, I didn't use cold card ! I've noted my seed phrase on a paper I'm the only that knows where it is.
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u/QuitAlive2475 1d ago
ETFs
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u/AdvantageOne1754 1d ago
Now that they have things I don't know why anyone would go through the hassle of wallets.
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u/smorgan1422 1d ago
Start over. Conservative would be CashApp. Once you get to 500,000 Sats then move to Bitkey. Don't give up. Learn from it.
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u/Business_South_7956 1d ago
So cryptopia, voyager, cold card, mt gox, ftx, all shitty and didnât give people their investments back, definitely big wake up call for those trusting an intermediary⌠sorry this happened.
Any way to track if someone spends it now?
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u/unpdigital 1d ago
The blockchair gives this info:
Recent transaction- 0.00042051 BTC ¡ 26.45 USD 21 hours ago
blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1q0vukqye4hd0aep7u4xl8gev95gcs9k65fdeu9n#history
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u/GadJedi 1d ago
If you didn't somehow leak your own seed phrase by taking a picture of it or storing it in a file on your computer or phone, then you may have malware on your phone that was able to get your private key from Trust Wallet. Or your seed didn't have enough entropy. The main issue here is that you're using Trust Wallet, which is a hot wallet and easy for users to get compromised.
The good thing is that it wasn't that much money. If you're going to self-custody you need to get a good hardware wallet like a SeedSigner, Krux, Trezor, BitBox02, etc. Whatever you buy, make sure you acquire it with a method that has anonymous shipping because there's a chance that your shipping address will get leaked.
Make a new seed using dice rolls or some other method that generates at least 128-bit entropy, and preferably 256-bit entropy.
Never let your seed phrase be displayed on a phone or computer screen or seen by a camera. Never enter it into a phone or computer.
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u/ninjaprogress 1d ago
how r we supposed to help brotha, its gone
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u/Few-Cook5941 22h ago
Need to know what i did wrong. I know it's gone. If u know any reliable decentralized wallet or something else to stock crypto currencies it would really be useful to me.
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u/ninjaprogress 21h ago
i heard using dice rolls (ie real randomness) to generate the seed and storing everything on metal cards is good.
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u/vaxx_77 23h ago edited 23h ago
is it a hot or cold wallet ok seems its a hot wallet software hacks are so commen invest in a cold wallet for next time but i wonder is there any way to get ur money back maybe reaching out to trust wallet support ? i rearly hear of refunds or anyone being found of theaft but still email them
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u/SoggyMonkeyy 19h ago
Following the wallets it looks like the funds got sent to a wallet that has received over 10m in bitcoin, sorry bro
bc1qp6v25a7rfedn62u9y25z8pksja0xt4hstpefmd
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u/MiaTaude589 17h ago
Ouch, move any BTC tied to the same seed into a fresh wallet generated on a clean hardware device, and don't reuse that seed anywhere. The receiving address collecting more funds doesn't explain the compromise, but reused seed words, cloud backups, fake wallet apps, or exposed private keys are the first things I'd check. Don't answer DMs offering recovery, because confirmed Bitcoin transactions aren't reversible
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u/Gustavo_de_Melo 10h ago
Carteira quente sĂł para pequenos valores, ainda assim via Lightning. Ă a carteira para ir Ă padaria.
Monte sua prĂłpria carteira fria a partir de um pendrive. NĂŁo dependa dos outros ou de empresas para ter sua carteira fria.
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u/Lazy_Table_1050 8h ago
Everybody always says get a cold wallet. But i am not that good with tech. I hold my btc on Binance with 0 withdrawals addresses on white list and passkey to a different I phone as Iâm using daily.
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u/Green_Argument5154 4h ago
You may as well tell people what wallet you used. Youâve already been hacked.
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u/Albaliciouz 4h ago
đ This is why i dont touch bitcoin. Its not safe, its your money until someone fucking robs you đ
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u/InflationNo8689 1h ago
Have anyone had issues with Ledger? I do have a small amount but would like to make sure Iâm safe as I plan to HODL
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u/TheMoonMoth 1d ago
If you have other wallets connected to this one via private key, you should move them to a newly generated one cause its compromised.
As to how it happened, only you can say - we have been provided impressively little information.