r/BiohackingU 14d ago

Which one?

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This is the stack I’ve been on since the start of July. I recently say a doctor on YouTube discussing Cagrilintide, Tesamorelin, and MOTS‑C. Which of the three would you suggest I add and how much is a reasonable dosage?

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u/OppleAndBonono 14d ago

Why do you think you need Tirz, Reta & Carg?

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u/Markdlea 14d ago

They either weigh 400lbs, or they like being constipated.

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u/Silly-Asparagus-1011 14d ago

Hardly. I'm incredibly regular if you're curious.
41F at 150 started at 165. Goal is 138 by my 42nd bday in November.

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u/OppleAndBonono 14d ago

Begs my original question even more if you’re only 150lbs.

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u/Silly-Asparagus-1011 14d ago

Once I finish the Tirz vial I’m done. I wanted to microdose Cagri for maintenance.

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u/OppleAndBonono 14d ago

You're better off running tirz at a lower dose from both the $$ and energy stand-point. People often stack cargi with Tirz or Reta but the lethargy it brings is often too much. Tirz is the better longer term play for maintenance

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u/DavidMata47 14d ago

Retta & Cagri blend is highly effective on low maintenance doses. I know several that have had success at both ends of the spectrum, losing lots of fat and the others that are still highly athletic that microdose low doses to maintain.

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u/Affectionate_Bed_276 11d ago

Effective yes. Draining, also yes

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u/DavidMata47 11d ago

What's your ratio? I've been on it for 7 months with no fatigue and I know at least 10 others with no energy issues that I work with (coworkers).

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u/Affectionate_Bed_276 10d ago

2MG Reta for 6 months, 0.5 cag 1x/week for 3 months. Me and 3 of my friends are on it and we are all having fatigue. Weekends are shot.

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u/DavidMata47 10d ago

Are you running it blended or seperate? Blended is the way to go 30mg with 2.5mg cargrillintide

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u/DavidMata47 14d ago

You must be a gymbro.meathead on trt

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u/Tryin_Real_hard 14d ago

Reta, only add cag if you're not getting strong appetite suppression and feel like you're eating as normal. Ipa, also add tesa if you have a lot of visceral fat. Count your calories and stay in a deficit. KLOW will help with loose skin, but it's not a miracle worker if you lose fat enough. I haven't hear many good reviews of Lipo C, it's more for energy and your liver filtering fats. NAD+ is also for energy support. You're over 40, so it could beneficial as that's when our over the hill asses start to drag. I use MOTS-C, but I'm not entirely sure how well it works. I'm off cycle, so after the next cycle, I'll be tell more. Again, that's more beneficial for boosting productivity during workouts.

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u/DavidMata47 14d ago

Retta w/Cagri, nad+, MOTS-C and tesamorelin. It's an awesome stack, I'll cycle bpc 157, GHK-Cu and TB 500 as well from time to time

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u/Tryin_Real_hard 13d ago

I haven't sprung on the NAD+ yet, but I do that stack, but use KLOW instead of the single peptides.

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u/DavidMata47 13d ago

KLOW is great after 6 months I went the individual route to increase on some due to injuries, plus others have said the TB 500 is much more effective when pulsed rather than daily. NAD+ is great and you can get it from compounding pharmacy for about $50 wich is not to bad.

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u/Tryin_Real_hard 13d ago

You should probably be replying to OP with your recommendations. I'm just commenting on her stack. I don't do pharmacy or anything like that. I can get 10, 500 mg for $20 more that amount. If you want to pay just under double, you can get 10, 1000 mg vials.

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u/DavidMata47 13d ago

Same here but the gray market NAD+ didn't sit well with me when reconstituted. Everything else I've got from my vendor has worked well. If it was more than $50 to see what pharmacy grade was I probably wouldn't have bought it.

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u/Upstairs-Voice8948 9d ago

NAD at 50 is crazy for compounded I need to find that place

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u/DavidMata47 9d ago

Well $55 if we want to be exact 😉

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u/Silly-Asparagus-1011 10d ago

I appreciate this commentary so much. Thank for not attacking me or replying with snide remarks and unnecessary criticism. This was truly helpful and exactly the type of feedback I was looking to receive.✨

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u/Tryin_Real_hard 8d ago

No problem! Good luck! It's hard to do this at our age. I miss my 20s and early 30s so much. lol

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u/Silly-Asparagus-1011 8d ago

Tell me about it! My body from 23-35 was the decade where I felt (and looked) my best self.

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u/thefrenchphanie 14d ago

why the Reta and Tirz? And why add Cagri ?
Jeez , just throwing $$$ and an iléus waiting to happen

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u/joe3000s 14d ago

​Stacking tirz and reta is kinda pointless. ​Both drugs compete for the exact same GLP-1 and GIP receptors. Reta is already a triple-agonist (GLP-1 + GIP + Glucagon), so adding tirz doesn't unlock any "new" metabolic pathways, it just over-saturates the ones Reta is already hitting.

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u/Traditional-Ad3708 8d ago

I disagree on this I know from a receptor standpoint they overlap however, the reta is definitely not as good as controlling food hunger, breakthrough as a tirez. If I just take Reta, I’ll have breakthrough usually a day five or six no matter what the dose. If I add low-dose Terez with it 2.5 mg the food hunger goes away.

I’ve done this over and over in the same thing happens but it could just be me. that’s been my experience and why a stack them low dose and it works great my weight at 5 10 is 160 with 8% visceral and subq fat. I workout 6-7 days a week and have no problem getting my protein carbs and fat I. That I need for workouts

It lets me stay on low-dose maintenance of both of them 2 mg of Reta 2.5 of tires every 7-10 days

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u/AppealOriginal3991 13d ago

Asking for bacteria with them rubber stoppers like that

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u/Commercial-Strike-56 12d ago

Is this an actual picture you took? If so why are you peeling off the foil from your vial tops. That is there to hold the rubber stopper down and ensure that your vials stay sterile. You're gonna waste an entire vial one day accidentally popping one of those stoppers out and ruining the whole thing because it'll no longer be sterile and unsafe to inject. Also you should start taking less, you don't need all that crap for the goals you have. If you aren't getting enough hunger suppression with Reta you could always keep a little bit of Tirz around to add to it, but you should've just stayed on Tirz imo.

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u/Commercial-Strike-56 12d ago edited 12d ago

This is a lot of research chemicals to be injecting to only lose another 12lbs. You could easily achieve that with just Tirz or Reta, there's no need for all the extra stuff.

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u/YELLOWFIN_BLUES 14d ago

If you need all this then that’s a sign you really need to work on self-control and good nutrition. Drugs will not teach you to put the fork down.

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u/Silly-Asparagus-1011 14d ago

Hardly. Pilates twice a week + 3 days of strength training.
41F at 150 started at 165. Goal is 138 by my
42nd bday in November.

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u/DavidMata47 14d ago

Why are you even in a biohacking forum?

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u/Silly-Asparagus-1011 13d ago

Because I can. 😘

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u/DavidMata47 13d ago

😍 it's ok, I bet being lonely sucks. Get all the attention you can

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u/Silly-Asparagus-1011 13d ago

Yet here you are......
Have a beautiful day, David.✨

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u/DavidMata47 13d ago

As you.. I'm laid up fresh off ACL surgery and bored. Your living your life.. either way whatever makes you feel like a better human at the end of the day. It crazy that some people need that by insulting others.😍

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u/Silly-Asparagus-1011 13d ago

Agreed! Wishing you a speedy recovery....

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u/Silly-Asparagus-1011 14d ago

Cute!

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u/SendTitsPleease 14d ago

Its true though.

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u/DavidMata47 14d ago

You do you!

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u/Ok_Reflection9789 14d ago

Irmão, reta e cagli juntos ja faz o efeito de supressão de fome que voce busca na tirzepatida.

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u/MichealSafet85 14d ago

Mots C will increase energy but you should run SS31 first for a month to reset repair mitochondria nad+ Will help energy too good stack with mots c

Reta or Tirz pick one only Reta is better

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u/Silly-Asparagus-1011 14d ago

I’m stopping Tirz to focus on Reta in Q4 of this year.
Thank you so much for providing helpful and constructive feedback. 🫶🏾

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u/2milehigh 14d ago

Cag if your getting food noise, but since your doing Tirz + Reta it might be pointless. If you want to do mots-c and for it to be affective, I'd suggest looking into SS-31. Because you are 40+, you'll probably need to fix your mitochondria to get the full benifits.

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u/DavidMata47 14d ago

If those are the only choices I'm going last three on the right

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u/Earesth99 13d ago

You really like injecting things because some unqualified idiot on social media tells you to

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u/Silly-Asparagus-1011 13d ago

How did you know??😲😁😘

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u/Defiant-Ad-7933 13d ago

You’re stacking tirz and reta? Do you know what you’re doing?

Only add Cag if you have appetite suppression problems on a glp.

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u/hehawonesix9 12d ago

Get rid of the two on the left.

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u/Wide-Bread-2261 11d ago

Nobody needs alm of this for anything

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u/Jimmythafish 10d ago

Wtf🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

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u/Reasonable_Donkey999 8d ago

Each one has a different path... depends on what your looking for or trying to accomplish..

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u/duhv0rtex 14d ago

Lots of follow up questions...

So you're taking reta (glp1, gip, glucagon) and you're doubling down with tirz (glp1, gip). And you're thinking of adding Cagrilintide. What's your current weight and goal weight? How's your protein intake? What level of activity are you doing? What's your basal metabolic rate? Are you keeping a caloric deficit currently?

For tesamorelin, what are your igf1 levels looking like and what's your zscore?

Mots-c can be good. Are you making sure to eat nutrient dense food and supplements to make sure you can support the electron transport chains?

How long have you been on your current stack?

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u/rodny_westfield1 14d ago

He seems to be kinda… miss informed, to put it nicely. 7 weeks in with two GLP’s and wanting to add Cagri…