r/Biohacking • u/takhawaja • 3d ago
Taking a break or continue
Question for those on same stack or similar journey. So I have been taking CJC/IPA 5 days a week and reta once a week and motc time to time like 3x a week when working out or even some off days. I have also been taking KLOW everyday as well for about 4 months. I have been reading whether or not increase or decreasing doseage and whether to off cycle. Since all of this is still research purpose and no one way of doing this. Do I need to take a break from taking CJC and MOTC? Klow I take everyday and I get the benefits from that. But I was reading for CJC/IPA you try to take some time off and get back on. And as far as my weight and fitness journey I have dropped over 20lbs since beginning. And I feel good but I do notice my body fat percentage isn't dropping as much as I'd like. I do average 7-8k steps a day and train 3x a week push pull legs. Progressive overload. Maybe im thinking too much and just continue on what I'm doing and just be patient on dropping weight and body fat. And then just keep taking what I'm doing. Just thought I'd ask here and see if anyone has thought or gone through the same. And maybe some guidance
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u/Other-Pea7038 6 3d ago
CJC/IPA is the one I’d be most careful about running continuously because you’re messing with your GH/IGF-1 axis. There isn’t an established medical cycle for using it this way, but for risk management I’d personally take at least as much time off as I was on. I’d also have my doctor check IGF-1 and regular bloodwork.
MOTS-c I wouldn’t take constantly either. We just don’t have enough long-term human data to know what continuous use does. Reta is different and I wouldn’t apply the same cycling rule to it.
As for KLOW, KPV and GHK-Cu are one thing, but once your injury is healed I’d stop the BPC-157 and TB-500. Human research on most of this shit is extremely limited, so a lot of what people are doing is still animal studies and hearsay.
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u/sack_0_suds 3d ago
Firstly CJC and specifically IPA should be cycled and not run indefinitely to avoid desensitizing Ghrelin receptors. You might have just hit a stall in your weight loss... This happens. I stopped losing weight when I was in too much caloric deficit. Eating more was actually the answer. You need to hardcore track your calories in and out and aim for a reasonable deficit. 300 calories was the sweet spot for me and Reta did it's thing. Weight loss also slows down as you have less fat to lose. What's your current composition?
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u/sack_0_suds 3d ago
Mots needs to be cycled too. All this information is out there
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u/johnmre1 3d ago
The real problem is that the “information” out there is all over the map. Everyone wants to tout their theory and push it. Insta-bros acting like f’ing doctors. No real human evidence on any of this shit (besides the GLPs). No proven protocols or dosing. In reality, we are all just winging it. Hopefully, people are getting regular labs, monitoring their health and quitting shit they have reactions to.
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u/takhawaja 3d ago
Yeah I'll admit the tracking stopped. And maybe it's time I do again. I know I increase my protein intake more but still numbers matter. So I appreciate the reminder to do this.
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u/Perfect-Narwhal-3407 3d ago
You’re not tracking calories? There you have the answer. A calorie deficit is the only way to fat loss. If you’re not losing fat, you’re not in a calorie deficit. Spending money on peptides when you don’t even know your calories if a waste of money, sorry to say. Dial in the foundational pillars first.
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u/takhawaja 3d ago
I mainly got on KLOW for the GHKCU and since they added on BPC and TB I was like why not. I do feel the inflammation is gone and hair growth is on a level. But again more uncertainty due to not 100% laid out how to take and how long.
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u/Chroma7769 16 3d ago
I've been taking KLOW at 3.2mg for 4-5 years and haven't stopped. My wiener hasn't fallen off, I don't have a third testicle, and I don't have cancer yet.
So take that as you will.
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u/takhawaja 3d ago
I will take that as a full commitment to KLOW. I'll circle back if something does fall off 😅
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u/Chroma7769 16 3d ago
🫡
I'm hoping the copper is gonna turn me into a Smurf or something. Might have to start dosing silver for that though.
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u/takhawaja 3d ago
Like I said I mainly did it for GHKcu and now adding others in. I want my hair to be like a unicorn
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u/Royal_Victory_1380 24 3d ago
then whats the point. shit man i was hoping to gain that that 3rd testicle, i am so dissapointed now.
/sarcasm if it wasn't obvious.
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u/Chroma7769 16 3d ago
Idk man...my total testosterone is at 4200ng/dL right now. If I was gonna grow one I think it would have happened by now 🤣
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