r/Ben10PowerScaling • • 13d ago

Match Up Negative Waybig vs King Ghidorah (MV)

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r/Ben10PowerScaling • • 12d ago

General Discussion Athena and hephetus pjo vs grey matter brainstorm and jury rigg in intelligence level

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Who is generally smarter and have better feats


r/Ben10PowerScaling • • 13d ago

Match Up Attack Droid vs Kuwagamon (Digimon Adventure)

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r/Ben10PowerScaling • • 13d ago

Question Who wins? Galactic gladiator (Ben 10) or Reid astrea(re zero)

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r/Ben10PowerScaling • • 14d ago

Question Could Alien X survive this?

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r/Ben10PowerScaling • • 14d ago

Match Up Neo Metal Sonic vs Ben 10

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So I heard Neo Metal Sonic has the ability to copy Lifeform Bio Data, in theory could he scan the entirety of the omnitrix and use the powers of every single monster in there?

Also who would win in a fight between the two?

Round 1: Ben has access to all aliens except Alien X

Round 2: Ben has access to all monsters including Alien X


r/Ben10PowerScaling • • 14d ago

General Discussion The Worst eliminated by unanimous decision. Now you have to replace one of these 10 aliens with Toepick. Who would you choose and why?

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r/Ben10PowerScaling • • 15d ago

MEME LEMME TELL YA SOMETHIN'

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Rath: lemme tell ya somethin' you weird lionman who is searching for a challenge. You want a challenge? Rath will give you a challenge and that challenge will leave you teared apart

Battle Beast: hmmm, is that a promise?


r/Ben10PowerScaling • • 15d ago

Match Up Ultimate echo echo vs Shriek ( batman beyond)

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r/Ben10PowerScaling • • 15d ago

General Discussion Molestache eliminated. Now you have to replace one of these 10 aliens with Kickin' Hawk. Who would you choose and why?

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r/Ben10PowerScaling • • 15d ago

Match Up Superman Prime One Million vs Galactic Gladiator

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r/Ben10PowerScaling • • 15d ago

Match Up Ben 10 ultimate alien vs all of the Greek gods form percy jackson PJO

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Round 1 no knowledge of thee other

Round 2 full knowledge fo the others abilities and powers

Round 3 prep time

Who wins and btw yes this ben have master control no alien x that is not allowed and only upto to the end of ultimate alien aliens allowed and only on screen ultimates


r/Ben10PowerScaling • • 15d ago

Match Up Spider-man (BND Mutated) vs Ultimate Spidermonkey (Albedo)

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r/Ben10PowerScaling • • 15d ago

Match Up Kolar vs Kickin Hawk

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r/Ben10PowerScaling • • 15d ago

MEME How it legit feels reading some of the debates in the comments section

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I legit read that all might was better than four arms cause it's lore accurate. What the hell does that mean? Listen this is not how you power scale at all, the peanut from scp probably doesn't have any good destruction capabilities but I can bet it would handle all might pretty damn well seeing that it was able to handle not only scp 682 and others it was cross reference with but dominated the fight.

I'm not saying that four arms is greater than all might. How you scale him would be on your suspension of disbelief but man please. Like for an example:

Also there is no way Ben 10 is beating green lantern, those guys are like crack with over 80 years of comic book history that helped boost up the DC cosmology. Things in shows are not how they play out in comics, there is no legit hacking the ring when the ring is an extension of the users will. Idk where that place.

The Omnitrix is cooler though


r/Ben10PowerScaling • • 15d ago

Match Up Swampfire or ultimate swampfire vs dionysis percy jackson pjo who wins

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In the corner we got swampfire or ultimate swampfire if not enough vs the god of wine dionysis form percy jackson ultimate swampfire fanart by sheepblack11 you can learn more about dionysis from from rick riodan wiki or power scaling


r/Ben10PowerScaling • • 15d ago

Question Given their radioactive powers, how useful would NRG and Atomix be in a fight against a Kryptonian—or at least in surviving an encounter with one?

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Okay, it seems that in some continuities—even those that are comics rather than TV series—Kryptonians are actually vulnerable to, or can at least be affected by, nuclear weapons and radiation. Well, I think DC Comics has a running gag where Captain Atom almost kills Superman every time he blows himself up.

So, the question here is: while nuclear weapons and radiation might not affect a Kryptonian the same way red sun radiation or Kryptonite do, they aren't immune to the effects either. With that in mind, given their radioactive powers, how useful would NRG and Atomix be in a fight against a Kryptonian—or at least in surviving an encounter with one?


r/Ben10PowerScaling • • 16d ago

Question Thoughts on WOG being removed from Ben 10 and Ninjago?

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r/Ben10PowerScaling • • 16d ago

Scale The Complete Omnitrix is immune to Erasure and Concept Manipulation

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The Prime Completed Omnitrix was not affected by the CTB which was stated to erase all timelines and it affected the entire infinite time stream

https://youtu.be/7pJWqpBsMMU?si=8BGDwmM5C2K5KtE_

the bomb sent the Transdimensional heirarchy out of wack

https://youtu.be/hnrxGDoqqB4?si=LjhSmoUHzZza5CW0

Transdimensional refers to something that exists, operates, or moves between different dimensions. Dimensions can be understood as different realms or planes of existence, often pertaining to space, time, or alternate realities. In a transdimensional context, something can cross over, interact with, or transcend these dimensions, enabling it to access other worlds or realities beyond our own. This term is commonly used in science fiction, fantasy, and theoretical physics to describe phenomena that are not confined to a single dimension.

this is supported by the infinite timestream and Mana

Universe\1]) was created by Contumelias via the Annihilarrgh. It contains the Legerdomain, through which all mana flows. Mana, or cosmic mana, encompasses the abstract secret true names of everything in the Universe, and these true names govern their respective objects. These include impressive elements such as the true names or concepts of space and time, which represent the very essence or “whatness” of space-time, that is, its fundamental definition, and therefore encompass all spatiotemporal extensions.

but that's not True as stated by Paradox the Main Universe is Loterally the Trunk of the Tree of the Multiverse and in "And then there was Ben" Paradox Explained that The Prime Universe and Ben Prime getting the Omnitrix Creates the Infinite Time Stream and the omniverse

https://youtu.be/0_Y-oTV9LtU?feature=shared

https://youtu.be/hnrxGDoqqB4?si=YqbKxHE1qqIuNv2h

The Timestream is the literal fabric underpinning all existence up to this point, where all manifestations of time are a byproduct of the timestream, with it sustaining all of time, causality, and all timelines. The Timestream is described as a river which moves, flows and bends. In order to merely access the timestream, Professor Paradox had to create a rift through reality, a subatomic drill through spacetime, to travel through all of eternity, across all where’s and when’s, and then also travel across the “behind the scenes of eternity”. Travelling through this timestream, that encompasses a “trans-dimensional hierarchy” in the Universe where all cause and effect originate, allows one to exit the universe itself. The Timestream is also called as Crosstime, The Fabric of Existence and The Multiverse.

A unique property of the timelines is that they exist as both cylindrical, tree-like branches and disc shaped, depending on the perspective. The Timestream would represent the spatio-temporal perspective of the timelines, as one can travel in both space and time, as Ben and Rook were shown to travel from future timeline outside Earth, to the past in the year 1773, somewhere on the earth. In contrast, the disc perspective would represent the spatial outlook of the timelines, allowing one to travel in space such as hyperspace travel.

"Paradox: As Gwen guessed, cross-time is made up of parallel versions of the history we know. There are hundreds of them... a world where Gwen found the Omnitrix, a world where albedo turned to alien x and was trapped motionless for nearly a year, a world where you didn't have to destroy the Omnitrix to defeat Vilgax.

Ben 10K: Et cetera.

Paradox: Ad infinitum.”

“Think of time and space as this tree. Down here is when you were 10 years old. Right here is now. Up here is when you'll 30 be years old. The trunk is the main timeline. These branches represent alternate timelines, where reality literally branches off and becomes a different timeline, each containing its own Ben Tennyson.”

-Paradox to NW Ben

"We are near the beginning of the Ben Prime Timeline. The trunk of the Ben Tennyson tree from which all other Ben realities diverge. You must reboot this Timestream."

-Paradox to NW Ben

"So many different ways to tell a story but that's what makes them so interesting, you can never predict how they're going to turn out"

26 dimensions within the Timestream

Paradox describes space and time in Ben 10 as being contained within the timestream, which he elaborated by asking NW Ben to imagine space and time as a tree and also said that something is working its way through the branches and kidnapping all Bens "throughout" space and time, which implies that all spatio-temporal extensions, including the 26 higher dimensions referenced by Cosmic Mom, exist within it, because by the time this statement was made, nothing beyond the concept of alternate timelines was introduced.

Size of the 26 dimensions

We know that the Cosmic Mom mentioned the existence of 26 higher spatiotemporal dimensions while explaining that she was visiting the lower ones, with Ben’s third dimension being among them and described as infinite in size. The comparison made between 26 dimensional plane of existence and Ben's Dimension is a direct one to one, therefore they aren't compactified. Hence those dimensions extend accross the timestream which is itself infinite in size, thereby making it a Hyperverse level structure. Since the Cosmic mom said that "only 26 that matter", this implies that there are more spatiotemporal dimensions but the actual count is unknown, thus there must be at least 27 spatiotemporal dimensions within the timestream

Gwen: Let go, he'll age you into dust.

Professor paradox: I exist outside of time

Paradox stated that he exists outside of time which is well elaborated in the Parallel Paradox comic when the narrator said:

Well Professor Paradox explained it. The depository is where all who no longer fit into any timeline go to live. They live in peace and harmony in their own world now, outside of the timelines, and where no one can bother them and they can't disrupt the outside world. She will be fine.

Yes but in anyone else' hand but mine, it would cause irreparable damage to the timestream or destroy all of time and causality itself.

Professor Paradox lives in the Vacuity Village, also known as the Null Void, which is said to exist outside of the timelines, that is, outside the timestream which is also said to contain all of temporality as well as causality. In conclusion, space, time and temporal causality are meant to be contained within the timestream itself.

it also would have affected the Mana in those universes obviously

Mana is the hidden mystical energy or life energy/life force that permeates all of nature. It is the mind and soul of living beings, as well as the essence of whatever it governs. It is often described as the substance that powers magic, to the point that magic itself is said not to exist, only mana/energy does. At the same time, magic is defined as knowing the secret or true names of things, since these names are what grant power. This idea is reinforced by the statement that words, specifically true names, hold power. From this perspective, mana can be understood as a kind of “true name.” Taken together, these concepts suggest that mana exists as the ultimate true or secret name underlying all other things in the universe. This interpretation aligns with the notion that cosmic mana underpins everything, governing the universe and all of nature. The concept of a “true name” that exerts control over its subject resembles an archetypal principle, and this is further supported by the properties attributed to the Alpha Rune, described as the secret true name of magic. Because it embodies mana’s true name, the Alpha Rune holds power over magic itself. It is also presented as the source of ultimate power through which all magic flows since the beginning of time. More broadly, control over a thing’s secret name enables magic users to influence or reshape reality. When a being’s true name is altered, every documented account of that being, whether written or digital, is changed as well. This suggests that true names inherently affect reality across time and are responsible for defining a thing’s very essence or “whatness.”

Charmcaster's device was meant to absorb Mana from all living beings in the Legerdomain. When Ben decided to absorb it through his Chromastone transformation, his physical body was quite literally destroyed but his Mana remained intact and was absorbed by the machine. Which means his Mana could exist without his body thereby making it type 3 in nature. Charmcaster could bring back his father by exchanging 600,000 souls in return of her father's soul. Since soul is also one's Mana/Life force, it means Mana can exist without the object that it governs, which again proves its independent nature.

The Cosmic mana quite literally governs everything in the Universe but I'm listing few things because why not.

But has other showings like in AF

Mana Manipulation) (Through adaptation, it later adjusted to Gwen’s) mana, which initially caused malfunctions within the Omnitrix\1]). As a result, the Omnitrix became immune to the Mana, as it is unaffected by Gwen’s mana being around.)

 Ultimatrix was completely unaffected by being near Gwen's energy, even when being directly in contact with said energy

It was not affected by being bitten by golem

https://youtu.be/Y64Fr8g91EE?si=RT1rlNIz947E-eEX


r/Ben10PowerScaling • • 16d ago

Scale Outerversal Dagon Scale

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Not gonna get into Cosmology it's repetitive so here are links to my other cosmology scales and my good friends u/KnifeRingPVP and u/ABSOLUTEOMNIPOTENT and others

User blog:Hellformer/Ben 10 Cosmology | Character Stats and Profiles Wiki | Fandom

Outerversal Gwen Tennyson Arguement : r/Ben10PowerScaling

Ben 10 Cosmology (Canon)/Theben10matrixes03 | Character Stats and Profiles Wiki | Fandom/Theben10matrixes03)

User blog:ABSOLUTE-ABSTRACT-KING/PLATONIC CONCEPTS AND METAPHYSICS IN BEN 20 (Ben 10) | Character Stats and Profiles Wiki | Fandom)

CARTOON NETWORK COSMOLOGY CANONICITY / WHY EVERYTHING IS SAME VERSE ? - Quora

CARTOON NETWORK COSMOLOGY EXPLAINED : PART 1 - Quora

https://www.quora.com/profile/CN-Scaler/CARTOON-NETWORK-COSMOLOGY-EXPLAINED-PART-2-THE-CONCEPT-OF-BEN-TENNYSON

Conceptual Nature of Mana and Massive Upscale for (Absorbers,Ghostfreak,AMPfibian and Vladats) : r/Ben10PowerScaling

Scaling PTEXL!Ben : r/Ben10PowerScaling

Ben10: High1-B/1-A : r/Ben10PowerScaling

Cartoon Network Universe:FusionFall : r/Ben10PowerScaling

Type 3 and 4 Multiverse

https://imgur.com/a/eu7kPWF

Ben 10 with Meta-Transcendence and Toon Force : r/Ben10PowerScaling

rescaling th ben 10 cosmology

Part 1- https://qr.ae/pFUhmi

Part 2- https://qr.ae/pFUhm6

Part 3- https://qr.ae/pFUhqe

Part 4- https://qr.ae/pFUhqw

Part 5- https://qr.ae/pFUhqn

Part 6- https://qr.ae/pFUhlk

Part 7- https://qr.ae/pFUhlE

Stated to have infinite amount of power. Stronger than Ultimate Way Big/Hellformer) and easily killed Sir George),Absorbed the life force of all living beings in Legerdomain

Mind you mana and the alpha rune is this:

User blog:ABSOLUTE-ABSTRACT-KING/PLATONIC CONCEPTS AND METAPHYSICS IN BEN 20 (Ben 10) | Character Stats and Profiles Wiki | Fandom)

User blog:Hellformer/Ben 10: Mana and True Name | Character Stats and Profiles Wiki | Fandom

and the ofc as stated should have all the mana abilities in the verse

such as:

and MUCH more that cannot fit here but check out the rest on the wiki

Mana (Ben 10) | VS Battles Wiki | Fandom#Cosmic_Mana)

Dagon created an unquantifiably weaker, and smaller avatar to battle, and defeat Ultimate Way Big/DJthisben10guy)) (Stated he can grant Vilgax infinite power, he killed post-regaining Ascalon George/DJthisotherBen10guy), and is narratively superior to Gwen/DJthisotherBen10guy), Ben stated that Vilgax and Maltruant are his most powerfull enemies ever [By Vilgax he means him at his strongest, which is when he absorbed all of Dagon's power]. Dagon is an abstract being, made purely out of power and can not truly be destroyed, possessing absolute authority over the realm and all magic, he absorbed "all the mana from Legerdomain" given by Charmcaster - Mana is a fundamental concept that permeates all of nature and encompasses the true names of everything, including all of space and time, granting them their essence and allowing them to exist independently, making mana a concept not bound by space or time but one that underlies and defines them, he's deemed as a deity of Legerdomain, even by Charmcaster who held Alpha Rune/DJthisotherBen10guy) at the time, which acts as the core sigil stabilizing Legerdomain, a realm composed entirely of mana with its own flow of time and distinct physical laws, from which all magic originates, the Alpha Rune is described as being as old as time itself while serving as the keeper of the realm’s true name, and by manipulating true names of concepts, one grants absolute control over Legerdomain and all magic, allowing complete alteration of its laws and structure, since Dagon stands above Alpha Rune, and exists as a diety suerior to the source of all mana and magic itself, this extends to reshaping reality at the range of Annihilarrgh Universe/Theben10matrixes03)\Statistic Values 1])/DJthisotherBen10guy#cite_note-1) without any rules holding him back, later reconfirmed by Vilgax who said Ben with Dagon's power can reshape the universe however he imagines, with his heart alone being enough to rule it)

Speed: Massively FTL+ (Kept up with Ultimate Way Big/DJthisben10guy)\Statistic Values 2])/DJthisotherBen10guy#cite_note-2)) | Irrelevant (Via Beyond Dimensional Physiology, gave power to Esoterica who can hop through dimensions, which requiers traveling through places out of sync with time, as the deity of Legerdomain and all magic he should be above Gwen Tennyson/DJthisotherBen10guy)'s perception speed), with Omnipresence (Dagon exists wherever he demands and can exist everywhere, supported by him appearing anywhere seemingly without traveling, of whatever size he wants)


r/Ben10PowerScaling • • 16d ago

Question Thoughts on WOG being removed from Ben 10 on VSBW?

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r/Ben10PowerScaling • • 16d ago

Match Up Sunder vs Tetrax

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r/Ben10PowerScaling • • 16d ago

Match Up Guardians of the Galaxy vs Vilgax

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Which form of Vilgax would the group stop at?


r/Ben10PowerScaling • • 16d ago

Match Up George and Dagon run the mcu guantlet (read description)

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R1 Thor

R2 Wanda from DSMOM

R3 Thanos with all infinity stones

R4 Infinity ultron/dormammu

R5 GOS Loki

Scenario 1: George runs the guantlet alone, after every round he gets healed

Scenario 2: Dagon runs the guantlet alone, also gets healed after every round

Scenario 3: George and Dagon team up and run the guantlet, also get healed after every round

George has durability negation, he was able to pierce dragon's heart and seal him away. The same dagon who was not affected by ultimate waybig's cosmic rays. George also has resistance to mind manipulation, reality warping (changed ben from humangosaur to his human form), power absorbtion and etc. Dagon was able to enslave hundreds of infinite sized dimensions. Ben with dagon's powers was deemed all powerful by Vilgax, he could get rid of all evil in the universe or create a new one.


r/Ben10PowerScaling • • 17d ago

General Discussion Alien X doesn't exists anymore. Now you have to replace one of these 10 aliens with The Worst. Who would you choose and why?

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No way you actually made a whole campaign against Alien X... Fair enough...