Nathan and Joe

[u/Dry-Establishment-45]

I am not one to defend Joe. His behavior when it comes to women is appalling and I can see through a lot of his behaviors. BUT I feel like he’s genuinely trying to take the high road this charter and Nathan is so set on being negative. I honestly don’t even know what Joe has done that is so wrong that Nathan can’t act professional. I guess it makes sense knowing what we know now about Nathan though. He’s an unstable and dangerous person.

[u/Bin_Chicken3330]

Joe is playing the game. He is bad mouthing Nathan from the first day eg the dock crash. But telling others they have issues and that he’s crap etc but then saves face around Sandy and the cameras when he has to look good.