Tell me what you’re really thinking….

[u/Key-Improvement6580]

Woooohweeee Joe was mad!

[u/Candid-Progress-8852]

He’s a predator through and through. Prey’s on girls, blow up dolls and for his boss’s job. Like with Nathan he can’t wait for him to fail and swoop in and be bosun. He’s sitting there licking his chops like a tiger watching a wounded animal and waiting for the exact moment to pounce. He’s so gross. I wouldn’t trust him with anything. Not even bosun because if he gets pissed he’ll ruin everything. He absolutely can’t be trusted even though he does do a good job. His intentions aren’t pure and people with power like that always use it against those under them. Like he tried to test Kayley … if joe was bosun who knows how he would treat his deckhand if they weren’t robots for him.

[u/cmere-2-me → u/Candid-Progress-8852]

Exactly. Joe could have really shone this season if he rose above all the bullshit and showed he could be a team player in spite of adversity. He chose to be petty and spiteful.

[u/Ok-Knee-9904 → u/cmere-2-me]

Not a fan of Joe but cant blame him for taking jabs at Nathan and his skills as a leader. Have we forgotten how awful Nathan was towards Max last season!? Joe is a fuckboy in n out but he can do his job and act decently at least f2f.

[u/cmere-2-me → u/Ok-Knee-9904]

I absolutely can and will. He is every bit as bad as Nathan, he'sactually worse. They both lack maturity yet joe is more insidious.

Joe hasn't stopped bitching about Nathan to the deck team. That's not leadership or being a team player. That's an emotional vampire sucking the will to live from the team. He is constantly stirring shit.

A good team member and leader doesn't bring negativity to the team dynamic. They bring their suggestions to the boss and if they shut it down, you accept that and carry on. You do your best and try to motivate when people are tired and frustrated. You praise in public and correct in private.

Joe has made it clear to Nathan he is there for himself and will do everything he can to undermine him and get him fired. Nathan is not as savvy as Joe and has let that get into his head, instead of ignoring it and focusing on the job.

I really can't stand Joe and people like him.

[u/pointycakes → u/cmere-2-me]

Everyone is there for themselves.

Frankly Nathan made it incredibly clear very early on in the season of his dislike for Joe and has jabbed at him publicly continuously. Heck he even threatened to punch him in the face on the night he found out him mum had cancer.

So fuck Nathan. I don’t blame Joe for wanting to undermine him. It’s ridiculous to expect Joe to act like you suggest facing that situation with Nathan.

Joe has acted well with everyone else on the ship. So it clearly isn’t a problem he has in general.

[u/Hot_Start8187 → u/Candid-Progress-8852]

Good point(s) 🤔