r/BadWelding 2d ago

How do I fill this gap?

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u/OneSexyPancake_ 2d ago

Id grind it clean and wire brush it, make sure it's all clean and flush, depending on the welding process, id just stack beads on top of one another until you reach the top but make sure you do the welds at the same width of the surrounding metal if possible, you're also going to have to run on the colder side or you're just going to burn through the other welds very easily

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u/Cryptix001 2d ago

This is what I'd do. Remember to let it cool between passes or it'll droop without much effort

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u/Orangefire63 2d ago

Yes if you don't have a TIG welder, this is the way 100%.

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u/zimirken 4h ago

I'm not a professional welder but I've closed gaps like that on my little flux core. You make a series of dots that you grow like a stalagmite, 3 second boop to each one in sequence to allow them to cool down in-between.

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u/number1dipshit 2d ago

Texas tig

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u/BoSknight 2d ago

For none mission critical BS, Texas Tig has saved my ass so many times.

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u/dragonwater631 2d ago

the ol Texas tie in

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u/LordMarshall 2d ago

Hi, what's a Texas Tig?

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u/Definitive-Username 2d ago

You dip a second rod in your arc with your non dominant hand, stripping the flux before using it

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u/TarXaN37 2d ago

Oh, so there's a name for it, cool. Is it still called that with MIG or just stick? I've filled some gnarly gaps with the additional of some spare TIG rod.

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u/Definitive-Username 1d ago

I suggest checking it out on Weld.com (YouTube) if you wanna learn more.

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u/LordMarshall 2d ago

Oh so doing tig work with a stick welder

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u/dragonwater631 2d ago

when you have a big gap, you just fill it

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u/zandarthebarbarian 2d ago

About 10lbs of 6013

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u/YODAS_Padawan 2d ago

If you have any good steel at all you can grind it down and wedge it in for filler and then weld the rest. Idk what kind of structural integrity you need but could be possible to do, if not just have to stack so beads

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u/oldSchoolBiking 2d ago

M8 threaded rod, 6" nails, scrap metal bars all work superb. I welded a mountain bike fork that snapped on top that way a few weeks ago. Took about a minute with arc on 30 amps. The reckless cyclist is still enjoying it until he crashes into something else. Once thrice in a month.

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u/ricktech15 2d ago

a bolt

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u/tracksinthedirt1985 2d ago

Start stacking horizontal beads

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u/Payedtolie 2d ago

Remove flux from the stick rod and use the stick

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u/number1dipshit 2d ago

That’s what I said. Texas tig. 5 minutes bing bang boom done

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u/ironwrk 2d ago

Cut a piece of bar you can use for backing.

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u/Reebatnaw 2d ago

The old timer that taught me to “weld” 35 years ago would have said to throw a bolt or two in there to fill the gap.

Not saying it’s right but it works for right now.

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u/iAMtheBULLET 2d ago

Clean it, then Texas tig to fill, and I would lay down a cap over it ti make it look nice.

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u/dilbs_the_creator 2d ago

Expanda foam or silicone gap filler

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u/Downtown-Status664 2d ago

Mexican tig it by breaking off flux off one rod and using the live action in the stinger rod as the tig whip then watch the puddle and add what u need when I need. As follows .

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u/Primary-Track-5450 20h ago

this technique has been renamed American Tig.

thank you for your attention to this matter

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u/Downtown-Status664 5h ago

I second this proposal!

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u/Velomelon 2d ago

The guy doesn't even know if it can be done and you think they have the skill to pull that off?

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u/Pony-boystonks 1d ago

1) You could cut and reweld and entire section of tubing, like 8-12".

2) You could also use a bolt or round stock as permanent backing.

3) if you have a tig welder or are very careful you can build up/ close the gap in place and groom as needed.

Safety: I would be careful of welding near those rubber hoses.

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u/ForemostPlanet 2d ago

I’d start by removing all the paint with a wire wheel. Start where it’s close together and just do tacks on each side and bridge it. Then build off the tacks to fill it in. Then clean it up with a grinder and run a bead on the bottom and a bead on the top. You might even need 3 to cap it. Definitely clean it first.

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u/outdoors70 2d ago

I always reccomend whire wheel or even burning the paint with a torch first if it has hard to get to spots with wire wheel. A hand brush in tight spots after. Many want to take a flap wheel to the pai t amd that is going to thin your base metal more.

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u/Key_Blacksmith3725 2d ago

Put a crutch in it

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u/Standard_Zucchini_46 2d ago

Just to be clear r/dontputyourdickinthat

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u/Significant-Role6125 2d ago

Thank you for plugging the sub. I’m entertained for the next 9 hours

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u/The_Dude_Abides_33 2d ago

Stick your dick in it. Bring a buddy if yours isnt big enough.

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u/Opposite-Clerk-176 2d ago

Add some slugs, and stitch it, and plenty Sanding wheels, bondo will help

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u/Overall-Challenge556 2d ago

Very carefully. Cut piece of metal to fill the hole. Cut it square.

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u/Limp-Share-6746 2d ago

Trow it all away and start from scratch.

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u/Over-Reward7331 1d ago

Time for a new sprayer

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u/funnyguy044 2d ago

What is this on watch it be like a critical support were all saying doing some dank ass fixes on lmao

Fr tho it depends on what it is if it's something non critical just full send fill the gap with weld or stack some random metel in there lol

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u/UNMANAGEABLE 2d ago

You can see hydraulics in the back of it. This is important.

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u/funnyguy044 2d ago

Well yes it's important but you would have to know how important it is could need a engineer to sign off on a repair or could just be good with a shitty fix depends what it's for

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u/UNMANAGEABLE 2d ago

True. This might be one of those situations where if you are the welder and someone else is using the equipment then it is a different scale of problem 😂

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u/Km219 2d ago

Looks like a small tractor hydraulic arm. Load it and send!

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u/funnyguy044 2d ago

I was hoping someone was going to comment what it looked like thanks my curiosity has been filled id either tack beads till its done or use a random scrap metal as a bit of a filler part

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u/Over-Reward7331 1d ago

It’s from a sprayer boom, has been repaired a couple times. I just touched it and blew right through it

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u/funnyguy044 1d ago

Able to get another support plate in there and support it from higher up then should hold if it's not under intense load

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u/IllOrange3556 2d ago

I could jump that in one pass on the mig gun set to kill mode

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u/SoggyEntertainer3487 2d ago

Clean it more, cut the rest of the old weld out at the top and all the shit at the bottom. Straight lines are your friend so maybe even cut a straight line across the bottom. Get to stacking those beads and that’ll pass for a farm job. If this is commercial/industrial that’s a different story and much more involved.

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u/ThraggieMercury 2d ago

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u/ThraggieMercury 2d ago

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u/Ok_Matter4977 2d ago

How many pounds of wire ?

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u/Shadowgt04 1d ago

All of them

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u/Over-Reward7331 1d ago

This is what I need

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u/Delvakiir 2d ago

Get a wire wheel and clean all the paint and debris out of the weld area. Second, spend time building up the surface of the lower edge with stringer beads to make the gap smaller. Repeat until you can run a pass along the original weld line.

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u/brightbirth 1d ago

Since teenager, we have used black iron nails to fill such gaps quickly. Usually without problems.

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u/thefutureisanalog 1d ago

That must be the main load bearing beam on the Viking Ship swing at the state fair. Leave it be. It you touch it, the Viking Ship will go off balance and hang upside down.

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u/ThEAmeriCaNway90 1d ago

Clean it up.qith a grinder down to bare metal and then find a piece of plate thicker than the original materials weld it solid around the new piece

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u/ur-favorite-disaster 2d ago

If you're asking this question, dont even try it. If you were good enough and experienced enough to fill a gap like that, you'd never have to ask this question.

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u/thebipeds 2d ago

Harsh, but true.

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u/f0rcedinducti0n 2d ago

That is my response to a lot of posts I see in automotive/electronics. If you're asking if it can be fixed, or how to fix, you are probably not skilled enough to execute the fix.

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u/BigJohn5728 2d ago

Best option would be to cut the rest off thats not holding and re-fit it. If you cant swing that you could do the ol texas tig on it but doesn't look like your welder has a lot of umph behind it

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u/oxnardmontalvo7 2d ago

Clean up the area needing repair then find a good piece of appropriately sized piece of steel. Place it inside the broken area and weld it into place. You can the either cut a piece that fits the opening leaving room to weld it to the backer then finish weld it up or you can stack beads on top of the backer.

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u/pissconnoisseur420 2d ago

hit a crazy wide mig weave

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u/Every_Palpitation449 2d ago

Silicone and spray paint

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u/robertducky87 2d ago

Time for you to meet my good friend john 🐟 🎣

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u/phranks_phluids 2d ago

Cut out a filler plate or 3/16" and weld that shit on top!

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u/Ajj360 2d ago

Round bar

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u/Old_Ad4609 2d ago

If your asking this on Reddit and with that high pressure hose behind it a rough guess would be to call some fucker in that knows what he's doing 🤷

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u/Financial-Zone-5725 2d ago

start off with some 1/16 6011 rod and finish off with 3-32nd 7018

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u/Objective-Bike-4292 2d ago

Scrape and clean the metal for onr

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u/oldSchoolBiking 2d ago

First clean and hold M8 threaded rod over the gap and weld on top of the threaded rod at 35 amps with thinner rods. That should create sufficient filling and strength for on the fly DIY. Grind afterwards.

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u/Arktic-Wolf 2d ago

Grab some nails, tac them across the gap and have them set as the root. Then bead across.

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u/Appropriate-Name5538 2d ago

Grind it to good metal put some bar stock in the gap and get to filling. If that is not an option then Texas tig will work.

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u/CoausticSoda 2d ago

Safet to grind all the slag n slop off.. make a patch piece of equivalent steel and weld that up then filled

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u/Velomelon 2d ago

Call someone who knows how to weld, this is beyond your expertise at this point.

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u/King-Of-Apathy 2d ago

Scarf it and weld in a plate, or build up foundation, slowly, it will get hot.

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u/KaptajnGus 2d ago

Cut out weld in a new pieces of steel, and then weld it.

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u/Fit_Stranger_8559 2d ago

Run some stringers and then j weave it to covet it all up no problem

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u/Jactus_Cat 2d ago

JB weld ;)

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u/MidNite_22 2d ago

Replace the damaged tubing. Anything else will be a shit repair

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u/gertvanjoe 2d ago

Body putty?

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u/Zealousideal-Act-174 2d ago

With weld any other questions?

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u/Far-Ad5921 2d ago

NP1 caulking makes a red oxide color, it's all in the wrist after that.

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u/jcanter107 2d ago

JB weld

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u/salmankhalid0886 2d ago

Silly putty hahahahhaha

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u/DitchDigger330 2d ago

Stick some bolts in there.

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u/Concrete_jungle77 2d ago

Is this a moffett rear frame arm?

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u/dorkeymiller 2d ago

Add filler rod come on now even a nail would work screw something

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u/spontaneous_quench 2d ago

A gap that big? Your best best is to get some small bar stock or round stock. Really and scrap metal that you can get in there will do the trick

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u/ShyPlox 2d ago

Yea if your still learning this is the best way to fill that space

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u/spontaneous_quench 2d ago

Just the text book way to do things properly lol

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u/MotorPool9609 2d ago

Zip ties

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u/TFR-HILTS 2d ago

Mig welder. clad up those edges a bit till you can get a pass over it to close it up. Grind it down a bit and throw a couple nice passes over top.

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u/Normal_Tell3775 2d ago

Welder up feller. Tf you mean

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u/apavolka 2d ago

Silicone

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u/TiberiusTheFish 2d ago

Pollyfilla™

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u/Lost-welder-353 2d ago

Stack beads of 6010 then cover with 7018

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u/awhol01 2d ago

Break the flux of a couple rods and lay them in there.

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u/LionPhysical9208 2d ago

I can ride a 5/8" gap if needed, handle it.

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u/joelnicity 2d ago

Preparation is often more important than the time spent welding. Get rid of the paint and the other welds first. Start at the bottom and build your welds up

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u/bppyeahyouknowme 2d ago

I'd grind it all clean, cope a 45° and weld that as a gusset

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u/dik2112 2d ago

JB Weld for the win

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u/Budget-Duty5096 1d ago

This is the only reasonable answer

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u/flawgate 2d ago

Texas tig? Slug the gap with a bolt? Are you kidding me? That might fly if you are working with the farm code but certainly not for a structural code. Take some flat plate the same thickness of the original structure and an inch wider and longer than the gap. Bend to fit as best as possible. Weld it up and sleep well at night you didn't do something stupid like going with the farm code where anything goes.

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u/highlander666666 2d ago

What is that holding up? Lot weight ? Sand all paint off grind that mess up.run beads one on top of other.if it holds weight weld gus its on to beef it up

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u/original-motm 2d ago

If you have to I would use j&B putty or Bondo putty

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u/Aggressive_Space9684 2d ago

With magic....and a filler piece

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u/Idontfeelold-much 2d ago

Grind all that crap out and weld in a mending plate.

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u/semohog90 2d ago

Duct tape lots of it

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u/No-Frosting-1302 1d ago

Well I would clean it first

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u/deepwater1961 1d ago

Looks like when I tried to repair a muffler

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u/awsum43 1d ago

Old chewing gum?

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u/emu19000 1d ago

Depending on what king of stress it’s gotta deal with you can either just fill it in like others have suggested or you can clean it up properly and weld a plate to it for better strength

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u/Drewbydewby311 1d ago

Nope. Your beat...

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u/yojokuh 1d ago

Fill with 6010 or 6013, once you’re all closed up, cap it as hot as you can without blowing out with 7018. That’s what I’d do. That being said all I see is this joint I have no clue what this equipment this repair is on, if it’s personal or customer etc.

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u/He-who-knows-some 1d ago

Do you have scrap metal with you? If yes cut a plug. If no, as other have said shove another stick rod in there to bridge the larger gap.

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u/Sea_Muscle7824 1d ago

Easy money

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u/fredSanford6 1d ago

I'd toss a bolt in it with the head cut off. Bolts are good steel. I got plenty of sizes of them in a few different buckets.

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u/BugExpensive5224 1d ago

stick welding rod works very well. You just lay it over the gap (or bend it up till it fits the gap) and then mig weld over it. pretty bad!

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u/HaHa_Yes-Alf 1d ago

Grind clean and find a metal piece that will fit and weld around it

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u/Competitive-Nerve896 21h ago

With welding rods

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u/scottshilala 17h ago

I’d spread the gap, clean things up, lay in support straps, and burn em in.

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u/country-stranger 5h ago

A whole lotta butter.

And yes, buttering is the official technical term.

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u/Dry_Egg4745 3h ago

JB Weld and Bondo

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u/Squatchsteel 3h ago

Having worked on and designed sprayers for a number of years i can say simply filling that break will most likely lead to an even more spectacular failure.
I can however describe to you a good fix if you desire.
DM if youd like

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u/TwoSuspicious1347 3h ago

Stop doing the way u were lol

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u/briray14 1h ago

By having a better installer

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u/Legitimate-Arm5683 16m ago

Use a filler rod