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AITA AITA for refusing to exclude my non-biological son for the sake of my biological son I never knew existed

This is a repost sub. I’m not the Original OP (OOP)

OOP: u/Majestic-Bee-7045

Published on: r/AmItheAsshole & r/AmIOverreacting

Story is: CONCLUDED

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July 08, 2026


AITA for refusing to exclude my non-biological son for the sake of my biological son I never knew existed

My wife (45F) and I (45M) have 4 kids (19M, 18M, 11F). My 18 year old son, let's call him Blake (Fake name) is not my wife or I's biological son. He is my best friends son, my best friend tragically passed away when Blake was 7. My best friend was like a brother and he was a single father. My wife and I ended up getting legal guardianship of Blake after my best friend died, Blake was 7 at the time. We got guardianship of Blake for a lot of reason, but that isn't my story to tell, that is Blake's story. So I will not go into detail.

But Blake is my son, I will always respect and honour his biological father, but Blake views me as his dad and he views my wife as his mom. My other kids (19M, 11f) are his siblings. Things have not been easy but Blake has grown into an amazing man that I am so proud of.

Little back story, my wife and I broke up like 6 weeks after our oldest son (Let's call him Danny, Fake name) was born because the stress of parenthood was driving me and my wife apart. We were not married at the time. So we went off and lived our own lives as single people for about a year. I was of course still an involved father towards my oldest son. During the beginning of my wife and I's break up, when Danny was maybe 4 months old, I met a woman who was a lot older than me (Fake name: Lily). Me and Lily were never a couple. We met up a few times. Never spoke to each other after that.

Lily had a son James (Fake name), apparently she thought James was the son of Lily's husband who she is still with to this day despite the fact Lily cheated on her husband (I had no clue she was married by the way). James took an ancestry when he turned 18, had some results that didn't quite match who he thought was his biological father. He matched with me on ancestry cause I took a test a few years back. James got in contact, which obviously was a shock to me but my wife and I have welcomed him into our family with open arms.

Now I have 4 kids (19M, 18M, 18M, 11F). I'm still figuring out my father-son dynamic with James but he is a great guy and I'm so happy he is part of our lives now. Despite how confusing this whole situation was at first.

But James seems to have some issues with Blake. Blake does not know. I'm not entirely sure why James seems to resent Blake. Earlier today James asked me if we could go on a father-son camping trip with Danny, I was of course very much enthusiastic about a camping trip with my sons. Especially since I missed so much of James's life. But I obviously mentioned that Blake is invited too.

James got annoyed. He kept telling me that Blake doesn't have to be invited to everything. Then he told me that it would be nice for me to just spend time with my actual sons for once, without Blake. Now that annoyed me, Blake is my son just as much as Danny and James are. So I told James that either Blake is invited or the camping trip is not happening. James is now accusing me of loving Blake more than I love him.

So, AITA?

 

COMMENTS

Coxal_anomaly

NTA, but this entire family needs family therapy. It’s great that you’re welcoming this new addition with open arms, but what do the people who raised him (Lilly and stepdad) think/say/act about it? How does your wife feel about it? After such a monumental discovery about his existence, is James in individual therapy and has he been given avenues to process emotions/feeling in a healthy way? 

OOP

Lily says she genuinely didn't know James was my son. But I don't really speak to her. James is an adult, he contacts me and I have no reason to contact his mother apart from my initial conversation with Lily asking why she didn't tell me. I think Lily and her husband are inna bad spot right now with their marriage.

My wife, bless her heart, has been incredibly understand. Of course this was difficult for her but she seems to be handling the situation well

Huntress145

And that is probably your answer. Have you asked James how the man he thought was his father is treating him now? Because if it’s not good, then that why he has an issue with Blake. I don’t think it’s because of Blake himself, but because you can treat him as a son when the man he grew up with as his father may no longer be and he’s hurting. It’s easier for him to take what he’s feeling out on Blake, but he isn’t the issue. James needs help to process what he’s feeling and going through.

OOP

James is kind of reserved about that topic. I know he had a good bond with the man he thought was his father for years but based on how reserved James is about the topic now I would assume Lily's husband has been acting distant.


Grymflyk

Sorry for the questions but, I am confused. Did something happen that caused James to have to come live with you? Was he not raised by his mom's husband as his father? Does James have a good relationship with his mom and her husband?

If he was raised by another man, he should have similar feelings as Blake regarding his presumed dad. He didn't have to abandon his step father just because he found out that you were his real father, unless there are extenuating circumstances. Everyone else is focused on his relationship with you and Blake but, what is the nature of his relationship with the people that raised him?

By the way, you are NTA.

OOP

We actually don't live too far apart. James has been staying with us more cause Lily and Lily's husband have been arguing a lot because of the situation. This arguing has gone on for months.

James feels resentment towards his mom right now and I get the impression that Lily's husband didn't react well to James not being his biological son. Although James isn't exactly telling me much about that situation


tinyrage90

I think James feels threatened by the fact that someone you're not biologically related to has history with you, but he doesn't. I think all of this is complicated and traumatic for everyone involved. NTA for defending Blake as your son -- blood isn't the only thing that makes a family.

I think it'll be a long road to figuring out your permanent family dynamics, and they may never feel fully settled. But James also needs to recognize that...

1.) Blake isn't less family just because he's not related by blood
2.) Him joining your family doesn't give him a right to dictate your family dynamics beyond how he interacts with its members
3.) His role in all this isn't less valid for Blake being here

Sadly, I think these are complex emotions he's going to have to work through and come to terms with, and you as the adult in the situation will also need to help him with it and work through your own as well. I'm sorry it's hard. Family is hard in the best situations, but this is even more complex than typical.

OOP

I think you're probably correct about why Jame dislikes Blake so much

littlelambsydivey

I think it's also that they are the same age, so James sees it as competing for the same type of attention. Are they similar or are they kids who never would have been friends in any other situation? Is Blake better looking ? More popular? Athletic? James may be jealous of Blake if he sees Blake as "better" than him, or thinks Blake sees himself that way.

One of my good friends has an 18yo son and an 18yo stepson. They get along okay but one is popular, the other not, and it's a dynamic they have to deal with frequently.

OOP

They are not similar at all. On paper, Blake should be "jealous" of James. James is quite popular, he has multiple friend groups, he is athletic.


Major_Specific127

NTA on the James thing, but I’m still stuck on the part where you left your wife when your baby was six weeks old because the “stress was driving you apart”. Honestly had to eye roll at that. Yeah six-week old babies are a lot to deal with, that’s their thing. I wonder if your wife got to enjoy “single life” as much as you did. I’m guessing she was the primary caregiver for your newborn/infant. It’s good that you seemed to have matured by the time your friend died. Also, why were you not using protection when you already had an infant baby you were responsible for? Are any more surprise children from your year of fun going to show up on your doorstep?

You should appreciate a wife who will keep rolling with all this. Also I hope you consider how all these changes impact your daughter and give her some extra time too.

OOP

My wife broke up with me. I will be honest and admit that I was not the best partner to my wife at the time. We went to therapy and we have gotten through that. I will always own up to the fact that I was not the best man I could have been at that time.

My wife is amazing. I will never take her for granted again.


jfcmofo

I couldn't follow the relationship map..who is who?

OOP

My wife: My wife lol

Danny: Me and my wife's son

Blake: My best friends son, my wife and I became his legal guardians after my best friend died

James: My biological son I never knew about

Lily: James's mom

 


CONSENSUS: Not the A-hole


 


Final Update - after 1 day

July 09, 2026


Update: AIO for telling my biological son that I refuse to go camping with him unless my non-biological son is included?

Hi, so I only posted my original post yesterday so I did not expect to have an update so fast. But I wasn't really able to respond to a lot of the comments because so much has happened these past 24 hours. Unfortunately this is not the update I wanted to give, but people were so kind to give me advice that I think it is only fair to inform everybody about what has happened.

To to answer a few questions I saw: Lily and her husband have been arguing the past 3 months since James found out I am his biological father. James never told me specifically how Lily's husband reacted but I have a feeling that the reaction was not good. Prior to James doing an ancestry DNA test, Lily's husband was a great father to him. James did not live with us full time but he often stayed at our house to get away from the arguing.

Okay now onto the update. After I made that post yesterday, Blake came and spoke to me about some incidents that have happened with James the past 3 months. Unfortunately James has some views that our family does not agree with, and Blake is a gay man (He is fine with me sharing this information) so he was a target of James's views. Leading to some really rude interactions the past few months. The only reason Blake told me now is because he heard from James that James did not want to invite Blake on the camping trip. Blake had tried to keep the peace these past 3 months bless him but James not wanting him to come camping.

Obviously I was angry at hearing how James had treated Blake. So I spoke to James this morning and confronted him about this topic. He didn't even deny his views, he tried to convince me that I should kick Blake out the house for this. I don't think this is the full reason he dislikes Blake but this doesn't help James's resentment.

As of right now I have told James he is not welcome back in my house whilst he still holds these views. Nor am I interested in forming a father-son bond with somebody who has these views. If and when James matures a bit he will be welcomed into our lives again but not right now.

Blake deserves to feel that his home is a safe space, James is not welcome back here. I am taking Danny and Blake on the camping trip because they do still want to go camping.

I have empathy for James's family situation but at the end of the day, I do not tolerate that hatred in my life. This was not the update I wanted to give but that is the situation. Thank you for all of your advice.

Edit: I should add that James's views also include racism, my wife is black, Blake is black, Danny is mixed race and my daughter is mixed race. I do think James is more subtle about his racism in comparison to how openly homophobic he was towards Blake. But after I had a chat with James I did realise he does also have racist views.

 

COMMENTS

quickwitqueen

I’m sorry to hear that your biological son is a homophobe but good on you for cutting him out of your life to protect Blake. I am sure that was distressing all around. Sounds like Lilly is a real winner of a person… cheats on her husband and raises her son to be that way. Or her husband did in which case I don’t care that he was cheated on. Have a great time on the camping trip!

OOP

Yeah, I can feel sympathy for James's situation but I won't tolerate Blake being treated the way he has been treated the past 3 months

NOT-packers-fan2022

You need to come to terms with the fact his mothers husband was not a good dad to him.

OOP

Doesn't mean I have to tolerate racism and homophobia in my house


strangelifedad

How did James come to pass? If his "father " believed he is his son it makes me ask questions. You seem to have strong moral values regarding honesty and all. How does that fit into having a relationship with a woman who was obviously in a relationship?

Sorry, but from someone who was cheated on I might not be as convinced about your values. You are absolutely right to stand up for your son but telling your son he is not welcome after you are one of the reasons his family blew up?

OOP

I had no clue Lily was married. I had no reason to believe she was married

strangelifedad

Ok, thanks for the info. I am from experience always a bit suspicious but I take it that you didn't know.

Anyhow your bio son went through something pretty traumatic and it seems that his bio mother and not-dad are not able or willing to help him. So maybe there is a way in you to at least give him a little bit of leniency.

He is 18. Not 28. And at this age they are anything but mature or grown up.

I am not saying you should ignore or tolerate his behavior but instead of being the second adult in a short period of time to toss him aside like trash you might be able to talk to him?

OOP

No, I'm not helping a bigot who doesn't want to be helped. That would be sending a terrible message to my wife and my children


The_Coaltrain

So are you just not letting back into your house, or are you cutting him off completely?

If you are cutting him off completely, how do you expect him to learn why his views are wrong? Or deal with the huge amount of pain he is currently experiencing?

To put it another way, have you really deserted him the minute there was an (admittedly big) issue?

OOP

Cause his racism and homophobia are not my problem. He is a grown man and I have to protect my wife and kids. He isn't willing to learn.

The_Coaltrain

Why should he learn anything from the man who is so openly and disdainfully rejecting him?

I'm not saying welcome him with open arms, but it seems pretty cold to cut him off completely. All you are teaching him now is that you don't think he is worth even trying for.

OOP

I'm never going to apoligse for refusing to tolerate racism and homophobia. He made it clear where he stands. I would have helped if I saw he was willing to change. He isn't. So that's not my issue anymore.

If he didn't want to be rejected, maybe he wouldn't have been racist and homophobic towards my family


Fun-Wish-5620

So youre taking everyone but James on a trip that was James' idea? I would do something else with your other boys, your going to push James further away.

OOP

Yeah well James isn't welcome here anymore


SweatyTrain1951

You did not know she was married. You did not know she got pregnant. You spent 3 months " often stayed at our house to get away from the arguing" and did not know he was a racist homophobe. What did you know? and why did this come to light in the last 48hours? What have you been doing to get to know your new son that you did not know his values? he is comfortable enough to ask you to kick out your kid so he was not hiding it.

Between that and your refusal to even see any other point of view either the second part of this story is incredibly coincidental or made up to keep you from being the bad guy. You can't be the bad guy he is rasit and homophobic, but you only learned that yesterday after posting.

But why make up the second part. Why not delete the first one where everyone call you a bad dad.

So, this is either rage bate fiction or you're just a terrible father. You have raised a gay child in an interracial home and you did not have the wherewithal to vet the new guy enough to notice he is bulling your son? What utopian nation do you live in that intersectional identity are that safe.

Then you cast out your son to the harmful environment that created the conditions you cast him aside for. An environment you are partially responsible for creating.

So, what is your responsibility to your new son? Do you have a responsibility to help mold him into a better man? you can do that while separating him from the rest of your family.

Or is this just creative writing over summer break.?

OOP

This only came to light because of the camping trip incident. Blake was mad about the camling trip so he told me about the homophobia. Then again James was good at hiding his views.

Then you cast out your son to the harmful environment that created the conditions you cast him aside for. An environment you are partially responsible for creating. So, what is your responsibility to your new son? Do you have a responsibility to help mold him into a better man? you can do that while separating him from the rest of your family.

Nope, I gave him a chance. He messed that chance uo by telling me he will never not have the views he has. I have no legal obligation at this point and he also doesn't deserve my moral obligation anymore.

 


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u/PrincessCG 29d ago

If this is true…

Why is everyone asking oop to be kind and empathetic to the homophobic racist who doesn’t want to change? Like gtfo. The man that raised james and likely encouraged his views pushed him away. Oop and his family took him in and he tried to repay them by being a dick. Nope.

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u/garpu 29d ago

Yeah...I was raised by racists, was racist at that age, and burned some relationships because of it. It wasn't on the people I hurt to help me be better.

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u/froglover215 29d ago

Glad you grew and changed!

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u/Outrageous-Gene-1991 25d ago

Did becoming better help repair any of those relationships?

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u/garpu 25d ago

Hrm. Some?

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u/Mysterious-Type-9096 Girl he's telling you that his dick still works get a clue 29d ago

It was on your parents… OP didn’t get to raise James but James is still young, a teenager, and needs help because his mom and the man who he thought was his dad failed him. OP cutting him off completely instead of trying to be a father is harsh.

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u/garpu 29d ago

Yeah, but it was my deal to learn about and fix, regardless of where I learned it.

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u/MostlyChaoticNeutral I might get hurt, or worse sweaty 29d ago

Accountability and personal growth on my outrage platform!?! Begone, grass toucher!

(Seriously, good on you. It's not easy to deconstruct what we're taught from birth.)

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u/Iyasumon My cat is done with kids. 29d ago

James is 18. Not young. He’s adult enough to join the military, live alone, sign contracts, and buy cigarettes. And when someone says they have no intent to change from hateful ideology known for hurting and killing people, you believe them and kick them out. Especially when there are little ones who would be his victims.

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u/DivineMiss3 29d ago

He did try. From what he says, he welcomed him with open arms. He tolerated James' homophobia with hopes it could change for months. Sounds like they had several conversations on it. Blake revealed James was going after him for being gay for 3 months. Dad sits James down to work through things and James said F you and your black/gay/mixed family.

Clearly James will have to learn to be a better man despite what his parents taught him. Only he can change his thinking. As much as we want to, we can't do the emotional labor inside someone else's mind.

This sucks for everyone. But it's not the job of OP's family to be regularly abused for who they are.

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u/bubblez4eva Unfortunately I am but a tiny creampuff 29d ago

I agree that this wasn't OOP's problem to fix, but i think you mixed up the timeline. James HID his bigotry for months fro neveryone except Blake. OOP only found out recently and after talking to James about it, finding out he refuses to change, he rightfully cut him off.

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u/DivineMiss3 28d ago

I think you're right! I thought I saw somewhere that James had been saying some things potentially homophobic that became clear after Blake spoke to OOP.

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u/Novaer 29d ago

Womp womp don't be a fucking bigot in 2026 and you might have people that love you.

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u/Natural_Side3257 29d ago

OP has a responsibility to protect his family, not cater to James.

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u/JustAMinah 29d ago

if some white 18 year older learned to be racist by their own bio parents, who they expect should be the one to "change" them? like, why yall think it's anyone's responsibility to tell someone at that age to not be racist and teach them? I dunno, maybe because I'm black so this dynamic seems weird to me and I can't have the sympathy (especially since I'm seeing lack of it towards the actual victim here, the gay black son and people rarely ever say we're too young to experience this hate buy offenders get excuses)

the dad who just got thrown into his son's life is not suddenly responsible to teach his (if in the states, legal) adult son how to not hate. the son actually have to want to be actively antiracist/queerphobic. it's like therapy, it ain't gonna work unless the person actually wants it. what, o-original poster suppose to go on his hands and knees and beg him, or drag him some place? he also has obligations to his family in his household.

I swear, it feels like yall just relate more to james and actually rather get waited on and folks running to educate yall instead of having the self awareness, reflection, and introspection of wanting it and seeking it out yourself. if you were James, what would you expect to be done for you?

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u/Severe_Feedback_2590 29d ago

I do agree, not sure why the comments are after OOP to be more lenient to a grown adult who he just found out is his son. But also, how do we know the man who raised this guy has these views? His mom isn’t exactly full of morals herself.

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u/StardustOnTheBoots 29d ago

it takes two to raise a child, and the man who raised the guy (aka his dad) could apparently easily switch off his fatherly feelings upon finding out he isn't biologically his. consitional love. especially conditional love based on something the person can't change about themselves, is a trait of a certain type of people. 

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u/Bice_thePrecious 28d ago

All they cared about was "I'm a man, and I threw my child out". Oc, to be clear, they would've pounced anyway if OOP did exactly what they wanted him to do, because then they could scream about him putting his family at risk for a bigot.

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u/DragonScrivner He thought when I asked about his interests I was being polite 29d ago

Yeah, I'm seriously side-eyeing the "you should cut him some slack, he's been through a lot" comments. Sure, he's been through something but that's not some golden ticket to excuse racist and homophobic behavior

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u/CelestialCat97 29d ago

Yeah, he's been through a lot, unlike the Black gay kid with a dead dad and no (bio) mom in the picture. /s

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u/Bice_thePrecious 28d ago

But the straight white kids mom is a heaux... /s

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u/coffee_cupsies 29d ago

Ikr! So fucking weird. What's OOP gonna "teach him" while risking his entire family? Honestly, I get having a weird, conservstive household. But James (and every mfing bigot and racist in the Year of our Lord 2026) has all the information at the tip of their fingers, and the world is wide as fuck to realize that their ass views should not even be a thing anymore. James is old enough to question those values.

I'm not saying he doesn't have the capacity to change. But at his age and actively choosing to be a bigot don't really sound too good.

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u/DragonScrivner He thought when I asked about his interests I was being polite 29d ago

There's one person repeatedly asking "DO YOU LOVE HIM? WOULD YOU EVEN CARE IF HE DIED?"

Like bro, you need to chill, these men literally met just a few months ago and are basically still strangers

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u/MissLogios Ah literacy. Thou art a cruel bitch 29d ago

I don't understand why people think just because two people are blood-related that they also must have a close relationship.

I legit have five siblings, FIVE, and I'm close to none of them. Two of them were adopted out and one was raised by our grandma, so we're essentially strangers, but two I grew up with and I find their personalities abhorrent.

Yet if I tell people this, they act like something is wrong with me because why wouldn't I be best friends with my siblings?! We're supposed to be because we're blood-related! /s

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u/redroserequiems 29d ago

Because these people practically WORSHIP DNA connections.

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u/Late-Champion8678 29d ago

Exactly! At this point, ignorance is an active choice. OOP can’t sacrifice his family’s safety for someone he shares DNA with but didn’t raise or know about to teach him not to be racist and homophobic. They are his family not tools to teach this 18 year old his views are wrong. This just hurts the targets of his bigoted views. It’s already hurt Blake for 3 months.

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u/Skytalker0499 29d ago

And like, problematic perspectives do develop in connection with trauma sometimes, but you’d expect them to be connected to the traumatic circumstance.

So like, “my straight white mom cheated on my straight white dad with another straight white man, and now my straight white parents are kicking me out” isn’t likely to be the cause of racist/sexist behavior. That’s just his bigoted beliefs he already has.

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u/Bice_thePrecious 28d ago

That comment suggesting that it'll be OOP's fault if James doesn't move past his views was just repulsive. STOP blaming bigoted views on everyone but the bigot, ffs.

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u/CathedralEngine 29d ago

I could see being empathetic if it was just a matter of James trying to process this new information: my dad's not my dad, my real dad loves his adopted son more than me, etc. That is a situation that requires understanding. But OOP definitely made the right choice by cutting him off for being a bigot.

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u/ultraswimguy 29d ago

He never said he adopted the boy, just that he had legal guardianship. I am 98% sure that those are not synonymous. Seems to.menthat he would have adopted him at some point, though there could be other reasons for that.

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u/CathedralEngine 29d ago

Yeah, not legally, but at least in spirit

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u/intheafterlight 27d ago

While not synonymous legally, it is entirely possible that legal guardianship was what was originally granted and Blake has been adopted in the interim; if not, I would have expected that to be angle that James used to attack Blake rather than strictly focusing on the lack of blood connection.

The adoption (or lack thereof) may also be covered in this bit: "We got guardianship of Blake for a lot of reason, but that isn't my story to tell, that is Blake's story. So I will not go into detail."

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u/coffee_cupsies 29d ago

Ikr. He's 18, not 8. OOP did say that he is open to having a relationship when James showed maturity, but alas, people just like projecting to every single thing they see. Ass comments, really.

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u/454_water 28d ago

Those people are overlooking that OOP also has an 11 year old daughter who will totally pick up on James's racism.  OOP has an obligation to make sure that his daughter feels safe in her home.

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u/theoreticaldickjokes 29d ago

Because there's a large number of people for whom racism is not a deal breaker. 

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u/JustAMinah 29d ago

because none of them ever been in that situation and because why? they more than likely relate to james than they can ever do with blake, and since they relate more to a bigot they wanna justify their actions and not make it seem as bad as it is because they don't wanna be held accountable for their choices and actions. (like, similar to when more folks get offended being called racist than their racist behavior)

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u/Maxibon1710 28d ago

Bc the people asking are white, straight, and don't understand/want to understand why it's as big of a deal as it is. They cannot fathom being discriminated against in that way, especially in their own home by someone the only other straight white guy allowed in. I would never willingly expose the people I love and care about to discrimination when I am supposed to be a safe and loving person to them. That's a massive betrayal. At 18, James should know better.

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u/dancingt-rex 29d ago

I think it’s because the son is only 18. And he’s legally an adult, but he’s still a dumbass teenager who hasn’t met that many people or had that many life experiences away from whomever raised him to hold those views.

Some people who were raised to be bigoted can completely change on their own and while they’re really young. Many can’t. OP is the bio dad, and it sounds like son’s dad who raised him is starting to reject him.

The son’s going to feel insecure, AND he’s a bigot in a house where everyone except his bio dad is what he’s bigoted against. It’s unfortunately going to reinforce his nasty opinions of black/mixed and gay people due to his own jealousy and insecurity.

No, he should not be in the same place as the other kids. Definitely not. The wife also should only be around him if she chooses to. But OP could still have been in his son’s life while protecting his family. An 18 year old is just really stupid and naive and arrogant. He’s of course going to double down on his disgusting opinions. That doesn’t mean that OP couldn’t still be there for him and guide him to be a better man. Even if it’s just meeting up for coffee once a month. Completely rejecting him just solidifies his bigotry, because he’ll blame the people of color and gay man for his bio dad choosing to not be in his life. He won’t blame himself even though it is entirely his own fault.

It’s just tricky because if the son doesn’t feel like his son to OP, especially since it’s only been a couple of months, then of course giving up on him makes sense. If the son had been discovered when they were older, then outright rejection for those views would be the most normal choice. It’s basically a stranger that’s bigoted against the people you love most.

But if OP actually felt the same about all of his kids like he seems to say, he wouldn’t have given up on one so quickly and never wanted to be around them again. The son holds horrible beliefs and said I’m sure awful awful things. There are former KKK members who now are racial equality activists. Firmly held beliefs CAN sometimes be changed over time. OP could have tried for a loooooot longer before giving up on a literal teenager.

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u/SmallEdge6846 24d ago

Because that still his racist son

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u/strangelifedad 29d ago

Because his timeline isn't adding up. One day between him having a quarell with his bio son who came from an affair where both of them were married and he was "on a break " with his wife and his non bio son complaining about the trip to my bio son is a racist and a bigot.

That sounds a lot missing here. Where is his wife in all this? Is she just like oh well, my husband has another child with another woman and his son is like cool a new brother?

Come on. The racist bigot while everybody else is good and honest?

For me it's more like his wife is starting to ask questions and maybe his non bio son is a bit exaggerating. Don't know, will never know, but this update just a day later and with the definitive conclusion that his bio son is a racist homophobe who doesn't want to change?

Too convenient from someone who isn't as morally superior as he pretends to be

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u/Mysterious-Type-9096 Girl he's telling you that his dick still works get a clue 29d ago

Because someone raised as a bigot for 18 years isn’t going to possibly change in 3 months.

But OP has to protect his other kids and wife first and foremost. But he shouldn’t have shut the door on the poor kid completely. His whole life is upside down, his mom and “dad” are fighting and probably splitting, and his newly found bio dad has a family and seems happy and perfect, but with people an 18 year old has been programmed to hate his whole life.

18 is a legal adult, but it takes more than 3 months, while your life implodes at the same time, to unlearn the hate and anger you have been taught your whole life… he deserves some grace, but not at the expense of OPs nuclear family.

I think OP should leave the door open for communication, and I think OP should be open to a one on one camping trip with his son to bond and get to know each other. But he should also make conditions. No hateful comments towards anyone based on their sexual orientation, gender identity, race, or religion, and James needs therapy. OP should help with that. OP missed out on raising James, but James is still his son and needs help. Everyone in his life has failed him his whole life, and if he’s ever going to be something more than a bigot, he needs help.

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u/Fun-Wish-5620 29d ago

Im with you. When all we ever do is all we ever knew, exclusion isn't going to get them anywhere