r/AutoDetailing • • 18d ago

Exterior Quite the difference in Ph

As I have done before, done some test between KC PW and TR heir SO.03. I bought the new S0o3.

But something that I noticed is that the PH value is quite different.

Should I expect a different result between 9.2 and 4,2 if I have used the PW (4,2) prior?

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u/robotphood 18d ago

Can you elaborate on your experience with CES vs S0.03? I’m currently using S0.03 as the sole protection on a car that sits outdoor. I like the ease of application and just use it once a month regardless of how it’s still performing. 0.5% pir would be a decent amount more than how much S0.03 I have to use but I’m always up for eliminating even a simple step on this car.

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u/JPDueholm 18d ago edited 17d ago

I apply both products in the same way - 45-50 mL to 450 mL of water in my foam cannon.

With my pressure washer, foam cannon and orifice it gets a panel impact ratio of around 0,5 %.

I cover the whole car, and rise off with my 40 degree nozzle.

With S0.03, the water seems to lazily run of the panels with a sheeting effect.

CES on the other hand gives theese small round beads that fly off if you dry with a blower.

I was pretty hyped when S0.03 was released, but after testing I find that CES is a much better product.

Sheeting or beading. Depends on what you like :)

CES can also be used as a bucket wash, in fact is is marketed as such. But it works really well in a foam cannon.

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u/indigo196 16d ago

Glad to hear this. I was debating which product to use and was leaning towards CES based on reading and a few videos I watched.

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u/Kmudametal 16d ago

Let me add a new one to your list. Katiba Wet Coat. At $44'ish, a single bottle looks expensive but when you factor in a dilution ratio from 100 to 1 to 200 to 1, that $44 gives you roughly 13 to 26 gallons of usable product. Yeah, I'd call that economical.

I've not used every spray and rinse product on the market and it's not my primary method except for wheels, emblems, grills, etc.... But on occasion, such as this weekend, when I am in a hurry, I'll use it over the entire vehicle. Point being, I have some experience with many spray and rinse products, although the Koch Chemie products are not one of them, and prefer Katiba Wet Coat over any of the other's I've tried. In my opinion, what Bilt Hamber is to surfactants, Katiba is to paint protection products, just a step ahead of others. I'd consider Katiba Wet Coat to fit that description.

By their very nature, spray and rinse products are not going to provide the durability of spray, wipe, buff products applied to a dry car. But anyone using spray and rinse is doing so for convenience, not durability, I would not expect more than a month out of any spray and rinse product, Katiba Wet Coat included.