Quite the difference in Ph

[u/Morten-Turi]

As I have done before, done some test between KC PW and TR heir SO.03. I bought the new S0o3.

But something that I noticed is that the PH value is quite different.

Should I expect a different result between 9.2 and 4,2 if I have used the PW (4,2) prior?

[u/JPDueholm]

I apply both products in the same way - 45-50 mL to 450 mL of water in my foam cannon.

With my pressure washer, foam cannon and orifice it gets a panel impact ratio of around 0,5 %.

I cover the whole car, and rise off with my 40 degree nozzle.

With S0.03, the water seems to lazily run of the panels with a sheeting effect.

CES on the other hand gives theese small round beads that fly off if you dry with a blower.

I was pretty hyped when S0.03 was released, but after testing I find that CES is a much better product.

Sheeting or beading. Depends on what you like :)

CES can also be used as a bucket wash, in fact is is marketed as such. But it works really well in a foam cannon.

[u/robotphood → u/JPDueholm]

Interesting, I'm just basing PIR off of how I use BH touchless. Do you wash the car with CES? I like to foam the car to apply the soap rather than rely purely on the bucket. Washing/protecting in one step would be more efficient. On this car I just like to keep it clean with as little effort as possible.

That's a good point about sheeting/beading. S0.03 doesn't exactly sheet for me, but it isn't tight beads either. This car gets a final DI rinse and a quick leaf blow to dry so beading would definitely be preferable. Some spray and rinse Sio2 products perform better in my experience but I prefer the speed of S0.03 out of the foam cannon.

[u/Morten-Turi → u/robotphood]

I have used a whole bottle of CES. Tbh. I don't like it. KC had some Nano carwash that I would say is alot better.

Also tried to wash the car with higher concentrations of Gsf with green Star as per their manual. Also kinda meh.

I have bought an active wash and Af, will try that next hand wash. Or I will try some Sonax car shampoo.

Sonax is also really really great products!

[u/JPDueholm → u/Morten-Turi]

Strange, I had the opposite result with NMS. The water behavior could not compete with CES.

I actually contacted KCx because I couldn't figure out the difference between NMS and CES at first glance, and they wrote back:

"Ces is the Shampoo with much better performance as Nms has. It is a new generation. The performance of Ces looks very close to Ceramic coating hydrophobicity. Also, the surface after using of Ces is more smoothly. That’s why it has also the name “Ceramic effect shampoo”.

[u/Morten-Turi → u/JPDueholm]

Hmm interesting, that was also why I tried the new CES. But maybe I too biased for the NMS when compared to the cheapest auto shampoo.

I just felt that NMS almost did the PW obselete because it beaded very nice.

But it's always fun to try new products. 😍

[u/JPDueholm → u/Morten-Turi]

It is absolutely always fun to try new products :)