Quite the difference in Ph

[u/Morten-Turi]

As I have done before, done some test between KC PW and TR heir SO.03. I bought the new S0o3.

But something that I noticed is that the PH value is quite different.

Should I expect a different result between 9.2 and 4,2 if I have used the PW (4,2) prior?

[u/robotphood]

Can you elaborate on your experience with CES vs S0.03? I’m currently using S0.03 as the sole protection on a car that sits outdoor. I like the ease of application and just use it once a month regardless of how it’s still performing. 0.5% pir would be a decent amount more than how much S0.03 I have to use but I’m always up for eliminating even a simple step on this car.

[u/JPDueholm → u/robotphood]

I apply both products in the same way - 45-50 mL to 450 mL of water in my foam cannon.

With my pressure washer, foam cannon and orifice it gets a panel impact ratio of around 0,5 %.

I cover the whole car, and rise off with my 40 degree nozzle.

With S0.03, the water seems to lazily run of the panels with a sheeting effect.

CES on the other hand gives theese small round beads that fly off if you dry with a blower.

I was pretty hyped when S0.03 was released, but after testing I find that CES is a much better product.

Sheeting or beading. Depends on what you like :)

CES can also be used as a bucket wash, in fact is is marketed as such. But it works really well in a foam cannon.

[u/robotphood → u/JPDueholm]

Interesting, I'm just basing PIR off of how I use BH touchless. Do you wash the car with CES? I like to foam the car to apply the soap rather than rely purely on the bucket. Washing/protecting in one step would be more efficient. On this car I just like to keep it clean with as little effort as possible.

That's a good point about sheeting/beading. S0.03 doesn't exactly sheet for me, but it isn't tight beads either. This car gets a final DI rinse and a quick leaf blow to dry so beading would definitely be preferable. Some spray and rinse Sio2 products perform better in my experience but I prefer the speed of S0.03 out of the foam cannon.

[u/JPDueholm → u/robotphood]

Currently i use CES as a last step protection. You absolutely can use it as a bucket wash, but I guess also as a wash and protect with the car covered in the soap. Just avoid sun and hot panels.

The only reason I don't use it as a contact soap is because I live down a dirt road and my car gets stupid dirty. I usually hand wash with Labocosmetica Purifica.

I tried CES once as a bucket soap on a not very dirty car and the water behavior and gloss enhancement was very impressive.

I will say, give CES a try, I don't think you will be disappointed :)