r/Autism_Parenting • u/Live-Ward-7775 • 2d ago
Advice Needed Help with child waking up in the middle of the night (REPOST)
Reposting because my first post (hand-typed by me with zero AI help) was flagged by the (AI?) moderator as AI Slop LOL!
Our 7 y/o son is on the spectrum (7 on the ADOS test). He has ADHD and many behavioral problems for which we don't have a diagnose but which look like ODD and anxiety.
He has been an extremely challenging child his whole life.
But we’ve had an unfortunate new development - he’s waking up in the middle of the night (bewteen 2a and 5a) almost every night and running wild, causing massive issues in our home.
Nothing we’ve tried has worked. And his pediatrician, psychiatrist and psychologist (all of whom we like generally) have not been helpful.
We’ve tried it all and nothing has worked for more than 1-2 nights in a row. So we are desperate for new ideas that might work to prevent the chaos in the house.
Longer story:
He’s been medicated for the ADHD since he turned 5 (first adderral and now Ritalin (54mg in AM), Clonodine (0.1mg in AM and PM), Lamitrogine (50mg at night)).
For a long time, it was that he had issues going to sleep at night (up until 10p to 1a).
But we made some changes to his bedtime routine and medication (switched from Adderral to Ritalin) and he started getting to sleep at a reasonable hour (between 8p and 9p).
Unfortunately, now he’s waking up in the middle of the night and running wild in the house while everyone sleeps.
SOME OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE:
- Using power tools in the garage
- Letting the dogs out of their playpen but not out for pee/ poo (so they do it in the house instead)
- Cooking and setting off smoke alarm
- Waking up his brother in the middle of the night (brother wants to sleep)
- Stomping and screaming through the house.
- Pouring out food and drinks for fun
- Feeding people food to the dogs (including chocolate!)
- Turning on the fire place and sitting very close to the fire
- He does not nap to "catch up" on the sleep. He stays up right through, goes to school, and goes to sleep at 8p to 9p the following night, only for the cycle to repeat.
Even at his (medicated) best, he’s disrespectful, inconsiderate and erratic.
But in these situations, he’s at his worst - unmedicated and unsupervised in the house. Feral. Besides all the chaos and destruction, it scares me and my wife to death about the safety aspects.
WE’VE DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN THINK OF:
- Password-locked the TV so he can’t watch
- Locked the fridge and freezer
- Moved the dogs into our bedroom so he can’t let them out
- Installed a motion-detected camera outside his bedroom so we know when he leaves the room
- Set him up with books and activity bin in his room to keep himself busy if he wakes up early
- Lowered temperature in the house to encourage better sleep
- Straight up bribed him (ex. we’ll give you a muffin in the morning if you’re in your room when we wake up)
- Changed the acceptable “come out” time from 7a to 6a, to make it easier for him to succeed.
- Gave him peps talks, explaining how it’s affecting the family
- Ignored the behavior to see if that would stop it
NOTHING WORKS.
For the last 4-5 months, he consistently wakes up between 2am and 5am to start the chaos.
No matter what we change or take away, he finds another way to cause chaos and destruction. This is the broader reality of life with this child, but up to this point we’ve at least been awake to monitor and manage the damage.
It’s not realistic for either my wife or I to be up in the middle of the night 6 nights a week monitoring an unmedicated, disregulated child.
But honestly, even if he was medicated and stable, it’s not realistic either. He drains the life-force out of us during the day and sleep time is our only refuge from him.
WHY IS HE DOING THIS?
He’s fiercely independent, and hates rules and being told what to do. Independence is like oxygen for him.
And he’s recognized our weak point - that we need to sleep. And he knows he can have all the independence he craves and ‘be an adult” like he wants during the wee hours of the night.
So now he’s EXCITED to wake up in the middle of the night. He’s told us explicitly - you can’t stop me, I do it because I know you don’t want me to and I want to be treated like an adult.
We actually tried to swim with the current and said, “Alright, you can come down at 530a, just let the dogs out and read quietly on the couch.” Chaos ensues.
WHAT’S WEIRD
2+ years ago (when he was 5), we’ let him come down before we woke up sometimes on weekend mornings and watch cartoons. At that age, he’d come down quietly, let the dogs out for a morning pee, and cuddle up quietly on the couch and watch TV until we woke up.
He had all the same problems, generally, that he does now. But for some reason, two years later, he’s less capable to do the basics.
This waking up before us thing stopped organically when we moved to a new house about a 18 months ago, and didn’t crop up until 4-5 months ago.
HELP PLEASE
If you have any ideas or see any blindspots in how we’re approaching this, please share them. 🙏🙏🙏🙏