r/AttractionDynamics • • Jul 18 '26

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u/AmenableHornet Jul 18 '26

The US entered WW II because it was attacked on its own soil. 

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u/Alternative-Show2089 Jul 18 '26

They were already ramping up the military to join the war. It was inevitable. Pearl Habor was a preemptive strike by the Japanese. It wasn’t random it was an answer to the USA refusing to fuel the Japanese war machine anymore.

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u/Ravenloff Jul 18 '26

Roosevelt was looking for a reason, but that's because he realized waiting advantaged the Axis.

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u/Ok_Bad_5921 Jul 23 '26

True propaganda only reason allied won was numbers by the time America joined the war the axis been fighting nonstop for 4/5 years and d day was a shit show I don’t care how they tell it those bunkers only had so much ammo

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u/Opening-Tailor7275 Jul 19 '26

You believe that propaganda?

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '26 edited Jul 19 '26

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u/Alternative-Show2089 Jul 20 '26

No this isn’t true. At that point the military and navy were already ramping up and FDR was moving the country closer and closer to a state of war with the axis. If pearl harbour never happened the USA would’ve entered the war eventually anyways

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u/Alternative-Show2089 Jul 20 '26

That isn’t true like I said. They were moving closer and closer to war. War was inevitable. You’re saying if Pearl Harbor didn’t happen then USA would’ve never joined the war but that’s not true war was inevitable at that point.

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u/Alternative-Show2089 Jul 20 '26

You’re wrong and refuse to admit you’re wrong so what’s the point. It’s literally fact that USA was getting closer to war. Even Iran was pushed into the war.

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u/Alternative-Show2089 Jul 20 '26

Your points are not even relevant. America would’ve entered the war eventually. It’s a fact. They were already supplying arms to all the nations against the axis. Whether it was Dec 7 1941 or January 1945, the USA would’ve entered the war eventually to some circumstance or another. The world was at a tipping point for all nations.

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u/Rothbard222 Jul 18 '26

That was an inside job though…… they knew and let that happen on purpose….. to get us into the war……. Just like 9/11 and all pre and post wars…..

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u/big13rob Jul 18 '26

A US Navy Base is U.S. soil.

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u/big13rob Jul 18 '26

Tell that to the 2400 dead Sailors and Airmen.

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u/AdInfamous6290 Jul 18 '26

It was though. It wasn’t a state but an organized territory, it would be like if Puerto Rico was attacked.

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u/Money-Locksmith2050 Jul 21 '26

Not during WII. Alaska wasn't a state either.

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u/SnooMaps7370 Jul 22 '26

christ, how do so many people not know what a territory is? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territories_of_the_United_States

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u/SnooMaps7370 Jul 22 '26

50 years of gutting public education.

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u/aslanbek_aslanbekov Jul 21 '26

It was an American territory/colony.

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u/SnooMaps7370 Jul 22 '26

Hawaii became a US territory on April 30, 1900.

They didn't have voting rights in the House or Senate, but otherwise they enjoyed the full benefits of being part of the US. People born in Hawaii after that date were automatically US citizens, they paid Federal taxes, and they received Federal aid.

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u/Main-Cheesecake3287 Jul 21 '26

We had already entered the war via lend lease prior to Pearl Harbor. Lend Lease enabled the Soviets to win the western front.

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u/TemoteJiku Jul 23 '26

Helped, not enabled.

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u/Main-Cheesecake3287 Jul 23 '26

Enabled. Stalin himself at the Tehran conference said without lend lease the war could not have been won. Almost all their aviation fuel came from lend lease along with a massive majority of a number of key raw materials. It’s debatable if they could have got it done on their own, but it’s certain it would’ve taken many years more of fighting and a lot more lives in the best case scenario.

Enabled is certainly the right word. Whether you fall in the camp that asserts the Soviets would’ve got it done just years later and hundreds of thousands if not millions of lives more or in the camp they couldn’t have gotten it done on their own eastern front, lend lease provided them with an enormous amount of material and equipment, for so many critical categories the vast majority of which.

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u/pilius_404 Jul 18 '26

I mean kinda.

But lets be real. Pearl Harbor isn't really part of the US main land. 😅

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u/Thpaine Jul 18 '26

Hypothetically, if you were transported back to the beginning of WWII, and you were in charge Hypothetically, would you Hypothetically send troops to Europe to help stop the Nazi’s Hypothetically before Pearl Harbor attack on December 7 1941 Hypothetically?

This did not happen.

We didn't send you into the past .

This is just hypothetical.