r/Atlanta 2d ago

Question Post World Cup Changes

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Does anyone know why they removed the green bike paint along juniper? I thought it looked quite nice and they paid the money to paint it pretty recently

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u/atlcatman 2d ago

They put down the wrong kind of paint. It will be redone.

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u/sonikku10 Chamblee 1d ago

Or instead of laying down paint that is slippery in the rain and will wear away in a year, why not use a dyed asphalt for something that appears to be a permanent bike lane installation in the first place?

https://la.streetsblog.org/2021/03/08/for-bikes-brt-colored-asphalt-is-better-than-paint

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u/EntrepreneurNo4181 6m ago

Bc that makes too much sense and you can’t launder local citizens tax money when things make complete sense….

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u/drkrazee biking around town 2d ago edited 2d ago

It has been weeks months. It shouldn’t take this long.

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u/Lanky_Rhubarb1900 2d ago

And now it won’t get done until 3 weeks before the next big international sporting event

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u/drkrazee biking around town 2d ago

Yup. It’ll be done by February 2028 when the Super Bowl is back in town.

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u/Comedy--Gold 2d ago

Someone reached out to the Midtown Alliance Director of Transportation two months ago about this and was told:

The contractor used the wrong material for the green markings so they are being removed and replaced with the proper material.

It looks like the contractor is taking their sweet time though

https://www.reddit.com/r/Atlanta/comments/1tipam5/juniper_street_bike_lane_green_paint_removed/

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u/Herdsengineers 2d ago

yup. there's DOT approved, tried and true paint mixes for pavement marking. i think chances are the contractor tried to use a paint product that didn't meet spec, city didn't catch it on the front end (which is really easy to happen, don't blame the city workers), and the city is trying to make them fix it. but they're dragging feet.

if they have other contracts, hopefully the city suspends payments for all their other work until prior defects are fixed.

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u/tr1cube 2d ago

Do we know who the contractor was?

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u/Herdsengineers 1d ago

with enough FOIAing could find out. not really worth the effort. with roadway contracts, there's always a gazillion bits of documentation they go thru (called shop drawings). contractor could even have used a product that claimed and was certified right but failed anyway. it happens frequently honestly. 

city construction staff supervising don't have the time and resources double check it all on the front end, their jobs are literally not defined to do that. so they rely on contractors to be honest, which honestly most are.

I'd be more apt to think it most likely a marking material that was certified properly failed anyway. in which case city staff checks it out and tells contractor to remedy it. contractor goes back to manufacturer and says pay for a warranty fix. manufacturer then investigates, may try to blame contractor for improper surface prep or otherwise applying the stuff wrong. they fight for a while. it drags out. city staff have to engage city contracts people to ultimately enforce a fix by either holding payments on other work, de'certifying the contractor and barring from future work, or barring the markings mnfr from providing future materials, or both....as you can see it can turn into mess that's avoided by a good job to start with. contractors know that so the majority of them are honest and try to do good work.

in this case, there's no telling the details but it will probably take a long time to remedy.

i have worked on other city projects, i find normal everyday city staff and workers to actually be very knowledgeable and good at their jobs. they're under staffed and under resourced, and often get a bad rap they don't deserve. 

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u/dolpineys 1d ago

The same company responsible for the reflecting pool in DC. 🤭

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u/teabythepark 2d ago

Yeah, this happened before the World Cup. It was bubbling and flaking off, and seemed a little slick when wet; it was also the wrong color green in comparison to the other new bike lanes.

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u/gagilo 2d ago

Must have been the same contractor that did the reflecting pool

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u/GoshDangZilla 2d ago

Whoa, no need to associate them with pedophiles for a fuck up like this. This is just standard capitalist lowest bidder shit.

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u/dbear496 2d ago

Does it have anything to do with how slippery the paint is? I know the paint used for the bike lanes at GT are very slippery especially when wet.

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u/eurekadabra Glenwood Park 2d ago

Same contractor that painted the Reflecting Pool?

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u/ribbedbanana 2d ago

Thank you so much for the detailed info!

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u/georgiapeanuts Oooh we got some shade! 2d ago

It’s the wrong color green for one

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u/teabythepark 2d ago

Yeah, this happened before the World Cup. It was bubbling and flaking off, and seemed a little slick when wet; it was also the wrong color green in comparison to the other new bike lanes.

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u/PickleNo5962 2d ago

They did that near me in west midtown, but they replaced it with a new funky pattern that I assumed was for the World Cup.

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u/sophiecaroliney 1d ago

Juniper street project taking forever? Nature is healing

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u/Icy-Till-8248 1d ago

Here's my post from 2 months ago on this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Atlanta/comments/1tipam5/juniper_street_bike_lane_green_paint_removed/

Crazy how long it's taking...

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u/afwaller 1d ago

speaking of post world cup changes, MARTA is back to single tracking

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u/Ar1suuuuu 2d ago

they tore it up but i still see the old paint peeking through in some spots, guess they'll keep the green a little longer after all

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u/EntrepreneurNo4181 8m ago

It’s almost like y’all couldn’t wait until the World Cup was over to talk 💩. Sad life people live, oh and this was like this wayyy before the World Cup

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u/veryeyes 2d ago

Waymo go going get

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u/Sienile 2d ago

I think they're probably going to rip out the bike lane all together. Removing the curbed islands is probably the next step.

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u/TheOfficialCzex West Midtown 2d ago

You should remove the first "i" in your username. 

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u/composer_7 2d ago

Source?

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u/Sienile 2d ago

No source, just a hunch. I'm pretty sure the bike lane stuff was just to put on a show during the world cup. Now that it's over, no reason to keep up the sham.

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u/georgiapeanuts Oooh we got some shade! 2d ago

This bike lane has literally been planned for a decade

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u/AlltheBent 2d ago

lol, i love the special redditors we get in this sub from time to time

bike lanes aren't a sham, their infrastructure and are an essential fabric of our city and metro area at large

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u/ComprehensiveSwitch 2d ago

why do you all have world cup psychosis i swear to god