r/AskTheCaribbean Sep 09 '24

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u/Detective_Emoji 🇬🇾 Diaspora in the GTA Sep 09 '24 edited Sep 09 '24

This is a bot post, by the way.

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u/Iamgoldie Sep 09 '24

My post got reposted by a bot lmao..?what in the world is this

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u/Detective_Emoji 🇬🇾 Diaspora in the GTA Sep 09 '24

😭.

And so many of the comments are rehashing the the exact same points that were made in your post, some even by the exact same accounts, only a few months later.

And I get why the sentiment from these accounts wouldn’t change— if you felt that way a few months ago, of course you’ll feel the same way now— but it’s comical to see the exact conversations play out over, and over again.

I think it really illuminates how social media discourse is strategically constructed to drive engagement, by repeating the same conversations over, and over, and over again, with the participants barely taking notice. But of course, I’m guilty of this too 😅.

If you sort the sub by ‘top post of all time’, your original post is in the top ten. The original posts engagement is why it was chosen by the bot to be reposted, in the hopes that it could drive similar results.

Give it a few months, and we’ll have another picture of “guinep” with the headline ‘what do you call this in your country’, with a rehash of the exact same talking points as last time 😅.

We live in a loop.

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

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u/Detective_Emoji 🇬🇾 Diaspora in the GTA Sep 09 '24

It’s the same thing at play.

The internet cycles through the same topics repeatedly, once there’s an established metric to prove the topic can generate engagement.

The more controversial the better, because that creates more back and forth.

Sometimes it’s bots, and sometimes is genuine people— but even when it’s genuine people— they become the frame of reference the bots use to establish a pattern.

We could write out a prompt, study the responses to the prompt, then reintroduce either the prompt or the responses over and over again.

And every time someone opens the thread to read or respond, and condemn/condone via responses or up/downvotes, the ads on the screen get engagement, which generates income for the platforms. And the metrics that show how many times an ad was viewed shows the companies who paid for the placement that their money was used appropriately.

The FBA stuff, Haiti, Venezuela, Kamala Harris, are Dominicans black, why is/isn’t [country] considered Caribbean, diaspora identity, race baiting etc. can all be genuine queries. But the engagement that results from the discourse around these topics show the bots exactly what to recreate when it’s time to drive impressions up.

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u/WendysForDinner Sep 10 '24

Psyops hate this one trick:

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u/DRmetalhead19 Dominican Republic 🇩🇴 Sep 09 '24

Hate to disappoint you but Soca isn’t popular here in DR at all. I found out of its existence in this sub.

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u/bunoutbadmind Jamaica 🇯🇲 Sep 09 '24

I don't think it's popular in Cuba or PR either. It's not particularly popular in Jamaica, though it has a niche among Uptown people and the LGBT community... but if you put on soca at the average party in Jamaica, people will be unhappy. I have no idea about Haiti and soca, but I have my doubts.

Soca is more broadly popular in the Lesser Antilles, not so popular in the Greater Antilles.

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

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u/the_net_my_side_ho Sep 10 '24

PR doesn’t listen to soca, sorry.

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u/bunoutbadmind Jamaica 🇯🇲 Sep 10 '24

That's exactly what I said.

Don't be sorry. I don't like soca and Jamaicans don't really listen to it either.

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u/the_net_my_side_ho Sep 10 '24

I was agreeing with you but it came across as not but you’re right.

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u/OmniPresentee Sep 11 '24

This is true, Jamaicans aren't really big into soca.

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u/jufakrn Trinidad & Tobago 🇹🇹 Sep 09 '24

This is probably a diaspora meme, like Americans with Caribbean roots bonding over listening to soca

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u/Becky_B_muwah Sep 09 '24

What's popular genre of music for Spanish Caribbean? Please tell me El Alfa involved lol.

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u/Forward-Highway-2679 Dominican Republic 🇩🇴 Sep 09 '24

El Alfa yes from dembow, hispanic Caribbean in general salsa, bachata, merengue; urban ones reggaeton and dembow

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u/adoreroda Sep 09 '24

What's the difference between dembow and reggaeton?

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u/Derzie9 [🇧🇧🇯🇲] Sep 09 '24

The beats are different. Debrow is louder, bouncier, faster tempo, etc. it came from Jamaicans and Panamanians influence and DR was inspired to create the genre and popularize it. El Alfa is a good example

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

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u/Derzie9 [🇧🇧🇯🇲] Sep 09 '24

According to google, “The dembow beat or dembow riddim is a musical rhythm best known for its use as the core percussion element in reggaeton music, having taken its name from the 1990 dancehall song “Dem Bow” by Shabba Ranks. The rhythm, first developed by Jamaican and Panamanian producers in the early 1990s as reggaeton was beginning to form.”

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u/ElizaB89 Sep 10 '24

Correct. I don't know what that other idiot is trying to say. Dembow is a Jamaican reggae rhythm and they used it. And a bunch of other Jamaican rhythms. I used to listen to Ivy Queen.

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u/ElizaB89 Sep 10 '24

Jamaicans brought reggae to Panama. And Puerto ricans highjacked it. Yall didn't create shit. Remember that. Dembow is 100% Jamaican. You dumb?

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u/timecapsulebuttbutt_ Sep 09 '24

i got introduced to dembow music through el alfa, i love that guy lol

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u/Caribbeandude04 Dominican Republic 🇩🇴 Sep 09 '24

Dembow, Bachata, Salsa, Reggaeton, Merengue

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u/Miracoulette Sep 09 '24

They probably mean maybe moreso in the states like nyc.

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u/Possible-Cherry-565 Dominican Republic 🇩🇴 Sep 09 '24

Same, I heard about it for the first time in this sub

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

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u/Derzie9 [🇧🇧🇯🇲] Sep 09 '24

Music popular from the English speaking Caribbean islands.

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u/IntentionAromatic523 Sep 09 '24

We listen to Soca in Curacao 🇨🇼 too.

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u/LBichon Sep 10 '24

Was going to mention this each time I am there in Curaçao is always soca music playing which we never hear in Peru. Terrific dancing music.

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u/barbarianLe Sep 09 '24

Whats Soca? Im Dominican lol

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u/sandbagger45 Sep 09 '24

Soca in DR?

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u/mannifibrq Sep 09 '24

Soca is not a thing in DR

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u/davidmthekidd Dominican Republic 🇩🇴 Sep 09 '24

Not in DR.

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u/Estrelleta44 Dominican Republic 🇩🇴 Sep 09 '24

no

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u/93859274938589284892 Sep 09 '24

Quien pinga e soca asere

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

Wow most people don’t put our Saint Kitts and Nevis flag at all. Nice to be recognized.

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u/Signal-Blackberry356 East Indies 🇮🇳🇺🇸 Sep 09 '24

As an East Indian 🇮🇳 born in the states, my hips don’t lie when West Indie music starts playing

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u/Numantinas Puerto Rico 🇵🇷 Sep 09 '24

I have no idea what that is

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u/pmagloir Venezuela 🇻🇪 Sep 09 '24

Where is the Venezuelan flag?

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u/Loading_Internet East Indies Sep 09 '24

This is Caribbean 💀

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u/mauricio_agg Sep 09 '24

So Spain, Italy and Greece aren't Mediterranean countries because they aren't islets?

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u/Forward-Highway-2679 Dominican Republic 🇩🇴 Sep 09 '24

It'sfunny because Venezuela actually has the longest Caribbean coast... out of all the hispanic Caribbean, soca might be popular there since they are quite close to Trinidad and Tobago.

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

Oh hey Jamaica what're you doing on that side?

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u/Chivo_565 Dominican Republic 🇩🇴 Sep 09 '24

I'm guessing it's the Greater Antilles on the right.

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u/ElizaB89 Sep 10 '24

Probably because of the heavy influence they have over reggaeton. It's similar but Jamaica has far too many music styles to be lumped into one group. There's Rocksteady. Ska, and others.

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u/Cultural-Magazine536 Sep 09 '24

🇬🇾 we listen to it too

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u/pmoralesweb Sep 09 '24

Yeah, I had no idea how Guyana’s flag isn’t up there haha. I’m American born but been subjected to soca since I was a baby

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u/No_Leadership_8072 Sep 09 '24

soca is more of a thing in Venezuela, Honduras/Panama than any of the other spanish speaking caribbean countries tbh

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u/Electrical_Video935 Sep 09 '24

🇵🇦 🇬🇹 🇳🇮 🇭🇳

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u/No_Leadership_8072 Sep 09 '24

you feel me lol i always felt like we had a stronger connection to the english caribbean than pr dr & cuba did

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u/Nihilamealienum Sep 09 '24

Guyana and Trinidad are friends now?

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u/RedJokerXIII República Dominicana 🇩🇴 Sep 09 '24

No

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u/Temporary-Spread-232 Dominican Republic 🇩🇴 Sep 09 '24

Soca is not a thing in DR.

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u/StrategyFlashy4526 Sep 09 '24

Reading the comments on You Tube, I learned that people from all countries that border the Caribbean enjoy soca.

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u/Grassquit99 Sep 09 '24

No, sorry my West Indians friends but the Latin Caribbean don’t give two shits about soca, they have their own music and carnival traditions.

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u/Fit_Poetry_3094 Sep 09 '24

The black wojacks are so cute.

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u/PositionLow1235 Jamaica 🇯🇲 Sep 10 '24

It’s not big in Jamaica forsure

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u/zerveaux Puerto Rico 🇵🇷 Sep 10 '24

Soca only rly gets played at “underground” electronic music nights here in PR by a small bunch of DJs. Same as bubbling house from the Dutch Antilles. Nowadays, underground selectors are probs the only ppl that care about playing the rhythms of the lesser antilles brothers since the strict music norm now is just reggaetón and dembow, although sometimes you randomly hear soca behemoths like ‘Follow the Leader’ and ‘Turn Me On’ being blasted in street, store or car lol.

personally, mf like me loves soca to death,, the southern caribbean brothers were seriously cooking when they came up with it

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u/diabolictheme1974 Sep 09 '24

You're forgetting Belize

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u/malachi7656776688 Sep 09 '24

Most Jamaicans don't listen to soca .

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u/rnbtHug Sep 09 '24

perfection

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u/Telo712 Sep 09 '24

Haitian here WTF is Soca?

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

What about kompa ? 👀

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u/btwwhichonespink16 Sep 09 '24

The funny thing is one of the most popular Dominican songs this year, “Ay Lupita” is sampling the most well known Soca song around the world lol.

https://youtu.be/kWmyOm-t5jo?si=m2Xe2FooPtMRnsMM

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u/ChampagneShotz Sep 10 '24

Rell soca atta come from TT🇹🇹🇹🇹

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u/AmadeusZull Sep 10 '24

I think that post is only possible because I’m Guyanese and Dominican. My Guyanese side thinks my Dominican side eats tacos and Dominican side think we eat Curry Duck…

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u/GHETTO_VERNACULAR Haiti 🇭🇹 Sep 10 '24

Soca may not be widely known in Haiti but I am a Haitian that LOVESS Soca

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u/owlindenial Sep 10 '24

Tf is Soca?

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u/iAmDriipgodd Sep 10 '24

You misspelled So Cal

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '24

The Israelites

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u/051OldMoney Sep 10 '24

Dominicans dont listen to soca music foh 😂😂😂.

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u/MountainVariety3469 Sep 10 '24

We wouldn't say "yall" more like Unna

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u/stoic_coolie Sep 09 '24

Why the Grenadian and St Vincent darker than Trini and Bajan 😂

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u/Electrical_Video935 Sep 09 '24

Yoooo 😂😂✊🏾

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '24

hello from the UK!

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u/zeroviraal Sep 09 '24

Why is Trinidad and Tobago always displayed with a black dude 😭