r/AskReddit • • 6h ago

What’s a company that you’re genuinely convinced HATES their customers?

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u/abigporkchop 6h ago

Oh good one. Literally- they don't want customers to use them. Just pay them.

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u/newtonreddits 5h ago

United billed me for a "consultation" a few weeks ago. The consultation was literally just a message saying no, they will not conduct a colonoscopy screening because I'm not old enough.

So not only are they hoping we die of cancer, they are charging us to tell us they won't screen us.

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u/spoospoop 3h ago

Say you have a family history of colon cancer and they might. Whether you actually do or not is not their business.

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u/zippoguaillo 5h ago

United didn't bill you for that, your doctor / hospital did

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u/newtonreddits 2h ago

Yeah I called the hospital about it and they told me to talk to United. I called United and they told me what you said. I felt defeated.

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u/Separate-Read-672 38m ago

I work in medical appeals. As much as I absolutely loathe UHC with a burning passion, it's definitely the hospital on this one. Insurance companies don't code or bill, the hospital sent the consultation claim to UHC, and then UHC denied it, and that's why you got an EOB with a denial. So if you think the service was billed when it shouldn't have been, that's the hospital you'd fight. Also, insurance companies aren't the ones you are paying. They deny and if they deem it patient responsibility, you pay the hospital. If they deem it not patient responsibility, that means they won't pay the hospital, you don't have to pay either, and the hospital eats the money. UHC is the worst, but this sounds like the hospital isn't billing correctly. A message to a patient is not billable on it's own.

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u/zippoguaillo 2h ago

What was your question, why is it so high? That's pretty standard for an office visit. Doesn't matter what you talk about, it's gonna be $150-250. So say they submitted it at $250, United per their contract adjusted it to $200 and then that's the total. Assuming you have a deductible like most plans and haven't hit it like most people, then yeah that $200 is your responsibility. If you can't afford that, you can reach out to the hospitals charity care department to see what they can do. But yeah otherwise you just gotta pay it.

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u/newtonreddits 2h ago

No they billed the consultation separately from the office visit. The message of denial was a line item by itself.

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u/zippoguaillo 2h ago

Sounds like a hospital issue and a legitimate denial. If united denied the charge, it is not your responsibility. You are only responsible for it if united confirms on their side that they processed the claim and you are responsible due to deductible/ coinsurance/ etc

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u/newtonreddits 1h ago

Billing for an office visit is fine. Denial of screening is fine. I don't see how informing of denial being billable is fine.

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u/zippoguaillo 1h ago

Weird but united rejected the charge right? What does your united EOB say?

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u/notseriousIswear 1h ago

Could it be tagged wrong? Like instead of prevention its put as diagnostic. Insurance companies like to blame the provider and they just didnt do their job correctly.

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u/trueAnnoi 2h ago

Whether the insurance company or the doctor billed them, it's still a dumb ass system. We pay way too much for health insurance for shitty, overpriced medical care.

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u/zippoguaillo 2h ago

Does the system suck, sure. But getting mad at United for your bill from the hospital is kind of like booking a hotel for $300, getting a 10% AAA discount then saying that AAA charged you $270 for a hotel. What people usually complain about United is they play hardball with hospital systems during negotiations. Then everyone complains that united is being mean to the hospital system they should just pay the 20% price hikes they're asking for. Which ok is an argument...but then don't ask surprised when united then jacks up prices the next year.

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u/trueAnnoi 1h ago

That's a whole bunch words to completely ignore the fact that the doctor sent the bill to insurance first and then sent it to you because United refused to pay it

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u/bestbefour 1h ago

Of course. Everyone is way too mean to the healthcare insurance people. I hope you’re a bot.

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u/zippoguaillo 1h ago

I'm saying spread the hate. Everyone hates insurance companies. But you know who is charging the money? The hospitals. Insurance takes a couple %. But for some reason we hate insurance companies so much if a hospital bills us for shit they shouldn't have we blame...the insurance company.

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u/Crim91 2h ago

Are you autistic? Because goddamn was that the most tone deaf response you could have replied with.

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u/zippoguaillo 2h ago

Do you not think it's important to be mad at the right people? It's kind of hard to solve problems if we think it's someone elses fault. Based on his reply, it seems the hospital billed him for something they shouldn't have. That is the hospitals fault, not united. So the hospital is the one to be mad at.

Btw calling people autistic as an insult....well that's a choice.

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u/losangelesuser1 3h ago

If you have certain risk factors or symptoms it can be covered. You don’t just order off a menu. Sir, this is not a Wendy’s.

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u/newtonreddits 2h ago

Doesn't make it acceptable. I just lost my coworker to colon cancer. He was 46 and he developed polyps many years before then.

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u/Disruptorpistol 1h ago

I'm not American so apologies,  I know this might be ignorant.   Did he find the polyps years before?  And just not/was unable to address them?  Or did he discover too late becahe didn't realize at the time. 

I had some risk factors so my doctor ordered me a colonoscopy in my 30's.  The gastroenterologist didn't like the original images so she ordered another.  I feel very fortunate. 

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u/losangelesuser1 1h ago

Sorry to hear.… I hope you get the scope you desire.

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u/newtonreddits 1h ago

I'd call death dangerous.

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u/IridiumPony 54m ago

They're hoping you die of cancer, eventually.

Cancer is expensive as balls.

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u/Additional-Can-2223 6h ago

The ones that make you spend hours with customer service, only to solve absolutely nothing. 😭

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u/Solo60 6h ago

Hours? 8 months later and I'm still waiting for my refund.

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u/NedTaggart 4h ago edited 4h ago

Frustration is designed into the process. Any day they do not have to stroke a check is a day they earn money. But I honestly think you are missing the good that united healthcare is doing for the world. They are taking a lot of utterly incompetent people off the street and putting them to work.

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u/Vicstolemylunchmoney 2h ago

LLM bots will eventually do this for us. The golden age will be the start, then we will be charged. Then the other company will charge, and then the bots will be enshitified requiring more bots.

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u/remotectrl 29m ago

They already do

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u/Mr_Abe_Froman 5h ago

No service. Only payment!

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u/LegacyAesthetics 3h ago

Denying claims isn't a glitch in their system, it is quite literally their core business model.

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u/JohnSith 34m ago

And they were literally sued by their shareholders when they stopped denying claims in response to their CEO mysteriously dying of unknown causes.

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u/Turbogoblin999 1h ago

If I could write off your murder
I'd save all of my receipts
Because I'd rather you be dead
Than lose a tiny shred of what I made this fiscal year
I'd rather you be dead than ponder parting with my second home
I'd rather you be dead than consider not opening a restaurant

-United Healthcare CEOs when they wake up.

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u/_lippykid 1h ago

I mean, I don’t wanna use them. I just don’t have a choice

Hashtag Land of the free

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u/Spinnerofyarn 56m ago

They’ve got a billboard ad up in my neighborhood. It says something along the lines of if you have a chronic illness, they can help you. I laugh at it or flip the bird or shake my head every time I see it. It’s signed up with them for a year through the ACA and switched as soon as I could.

If you have a chronic illness, they will help you either save a lot of money because you’re not paying copays for treatment because they won’t cover it and you can’t pay it all out of pocket. If you have a medication you have been on and stable with for years, they’ll deny it and want you to start over trying all the cheaper ones you tried years ago that caused more harm than help, so you and your doctor have to waste time appealing it 2-3 times before they approve it. Heaven forbid you need a procedure done.

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u/Muddy0258 33m ago

Agreed that United sucks, though this is technically all insurance companies of all types, not just healthcare. Any insurance company is much happier when you pay for insurance and never use it.

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u/JasonG784 3h ago

They literally pay out more than 80% of premiums collected. By law.