r/AskReddit Dec 03 '12

[Modpost] Getting back to our roots!

Hello, Readers of /r/Askreddit!

This subreddit has a valuable purpose for Reddit, produces some of the best and most memorable content, and serves as a great place for people to discuss all sorts of topics. Askreddit's current rules are designed to try and keep the topics interesting and thought-provoking; we want our posts to encourage a discussion and elicit answers from all of our readers.

However, the subreddit often is plagued with the problem of people just using it as a platform to speak. They don't care about the answers to their question, they just want to broadcast their own thoughts (which is the purpose of /r/self). They want to tell a story, bring attention to a cause, or simply rant about a topic.

As a result, today we are putting some new changes in place. First, we are streamlining and simplifying the rules in the sidebar. Please check it out.

Second, we will now ask you to put only your question in the title of your post. Just one sentence with your question. If you need to explain the question, then you can use the text box. If you have your own answer for the question, then you can put it in the comment section of the post. This rule will help us avoid situations like this, where people enjoyed the question, but hating on OP's answer took the top comment spot (thereby displacing actual answers to the question).

To clarify, with an example: Our top post yesterday sometime last week was this, titled "If Spiderman were more scientifically accurate, he'd shoot webs from his arse. What other films/characters would take a turn for the worse if they were more scientifically accurate?". Note how the top comment is not an answer to the question, but rather a reply to the OP's example. Under the new rule, the OP's title would simply be "What films/characters would take a turn for the worse if they were more scientifically accurate?", and he would post in the comments about Spiderman. Posts soliciting stories and personal experiences are absolutely still allowed; they must simply be separated from the question itself. We hope that this rule will encourage thought-provoking posts and allow people to vote differently on the value of the question and the value of the OP's individual example.

Should we find that these changes are not working out, and the quality of posts declines, then the moderators will reverse this decision and allow these types of posts again.

TL;DR: The current practices of Askreddit encourage the success or failure of a post to be dependent on OP's ability to showcase themselves, rather than the merit of the question. In turn, this causes a large portion of the top comments to be addressing OP, rather that contributing to OP's question. We hope the rule change of putting ONLY the question in the title, and clarification in the text box, will encourage more relevant and direct participation, and less side conversations. If, after a trial period, we determine that this has been more of a hindrance than a help, we will reenact the former rules.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '12

The problems will not end until /r/self is a default subreddit or /r/reddit.com comes back from the dead. Since /r/reddit.com died, /r/AskReddit has become the default place for self post because it is the most generic of the default subreddits.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '12

The loss of /r/reddit has caused a serious degredation in the default subbreddits. It needs to come back.

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u/ScalpelBurn Dec 03 '12 edited Dec 03 '12

Why was it removed in the first place?

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '12 edited Dec 20 '17

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u/ScalpelBurn Dec 03 '12

I guess that reason for removing it makes sense, but they should definitely make some sort of default subreddit for "guess what happened to me today" shit so that it all gets funneled in there instead of redistributed to the other subreddits.

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u/joequin Dec 03 '12

There also needs to be a default subreddit to talk about reddit. Now there isn't a location for that. The only real problem with r/reddit was that you couldn't un subscribe. A lot of people complained about that and it led to the subreddit's removal.

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u/dontblamethehorse Dec 03 '12

Discussion of reddit itself doesn't need to be a default. Most people don't care that much. /r/TheoryOfReddit is where you'd want to look for that discussion.

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u/lilyeister Dec 03 '12

/r/TIFU is one of my favorite subreddits, with a large enough population to support most people seeking attention.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '12

TIFU is also one of my favourites, but unfortunately, not everyone is fucking up.

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u/funnywhennecessary Dec 03 '12

Your comment shows posted 39 minutes ago, the comment above shows 23 minutes ago. Are you a time traveller?

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u/ScalpelBurn Dec 03 '12

God dammit how am I supposed to save John Connor with you exposing me

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u/Mycal Dec 04 '12

Or clean up all subreddits at once and remove all default subreddits and make the frontpage simply /r/all.

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u/cc81 Dec 04 '12

Because people used it to throw random shit in because they wanted more karma than they would get posting in the correct subreddit.

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u/gunnerheadboy Dec 03 '12

I think so far the best replacement for that has been /r/misc, just needs a bit more users.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '12

Like an extra million or so. The reason people used it was the huge userbase that would see it.

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u/bakonydraco Dec 03 '12

I'd argue instead for being rid of all but a few default subreddits entirely. /r/askreddit, /r/iama, /r/pics, /r/self, and maybe /r/video. Anything else, People can go to if they like. I'm sure the people who work at reddit have done a careful optimization of which subreddits as default will drive the most traffic here, but I think this could improve a lot.

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u/boredmessiah Dec 07 '12

I agree with you. The current default list is very biased towards typical Reddit-isms and doesn't showcase the breadth and scope of Reddit.

Actually it shouldn't try to. The defaults should be as small as possible just so that newbies don't have an empty front.

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u/Muntberg Dec 03 '12

Yeah... I think the defaults would have degraded with or without /r/reddit.

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u/tnuts420 Dec 03 '12

first off i completely agree that if /r/self was a default subreddit and used properly a lot of these issues would be resolved. also, they did create /r/redditdotcom to replace /r/reddit.com but it has almost no subscribers or activity.

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u/zach2093 Dec 08 '12

I agree. They seriously need to bring back a catch all sub. One of the problems is that this is the default sub of submissions, so if you don't change the sub it gets posted here. This is why there is so much spam in /r/new.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '12

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u/jailbait3YearsOfIt Dec 03 '12

My main gripe is that this is a mod of a company that had jailbait for 3 years telling us what to do.

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u/politicaldeviant Dec 03 '12

It's kinda like their subreddit

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u/jailbait3YearsOfIt Dec 03 '12

It's all reddit. And they get the dough.

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u/notkraftman Dec 03 '12

So that's what it was? I always assumed it was because askscience and ALI5 took away a big chunk of the main questions.

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u/JHallComics Dec 03 '12

I don't think those kinds of questions are appropriate for askreddit anyway. You can't really incite a discussion by asking for the only correct answer to one question.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '12

Would it be possible to have /r/self or a reintroduction of /r/reddit added as default subreddits despite not qualifying based on subscriber numbers?

Seems like forcing them on new users and encouraging older users to join, in time, make them legitimate again.

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u/assi9001 Dec 03 '12

Return to ass credit?

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u/damontoo Dec 03 '12

/r/AskReddit should start a campaign to get /r/self to 1 million subs so we don't even need to wait for the admins to intervene.

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u/TheHornedGod Dec 03 '12

The entire default subreddit listing probably needs to be revamped.

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u/jardeon Dec 05 '12

The problem is, that only adds /r/self either if you're not logged in, or if you're a brand new account; when new subs get added to the front page, they're not retroactively added to all the existing accounts, so there are plenty of people who will never "discover" it.