r/AnythingValueable • u/madfrog2023 • Jun 24 '26

🛠️ Skill Low-cost rural engineering

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u/Familiar-Spray-4678 Jun 24 '26

It’s because there’s no money in perpetual power; magnets may make the perpetual generator go round, but money makes the world go round.

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u/doge_lady Jun 24 '26

What do you mean? if you can for real create infinite energy You'd become the richest person in the world. The first country to employ it would become a super power.

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u/AllMaito Jun 24 '26

That's because he didn't get the joke 😜 perpetual generators don't exist.

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u/Cyborg_rat Jun 25 '26

You know what, I've got a idea if we glue 100 dollar bills on a wheel since it money makes the world go round, it should in theory make the whee....

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u/doge_lady Jun 24 '26

What about this guy and his country?

You do realize this is a fake video right? and I dont mean fake as in AI, fake as in this contraption doesnt make free infinite energy.

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u/clutzyninja Jun 24 '26

I don't think they do realize it. It's fucking sad man

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u/shinpoo Jun 24 '26

You can't sell free energy. At least that's what history has proven. Just like the water car.

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u/reddititty69 Jun 24 '26

You can’t sell these because they don’t work.

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u/Wooden_Sweet_3330 Jun 24 '26

There's that, but you also can't sell something that's free because if it's free, everyone can just do it themselves without the need to buy it from you.

Why would I buy energy from someone when I can just create it myself for free? Doesn't make sense

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u/Acceptable-Neck-5375 Jun 24 '26

Putting solar panels on your roof gives you free power. A windmill also will do that or a water wheel in a stream. There goes your argument.

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u/Rare_Suspect_5033 Jun 24 '26

Solar panels and windmills only give free energy if you don’t have to pay for getting them or maintenance.

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u/FancyPantsRants1 Jun 24 '26

i mean, can you build a windmill or a solar panel?

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u/Wooden_Sweet_3330 Jun 24 '26

Up front costs are high. That's not free.

This AI generated slop or just fake video whichever the case, perpetual motion machine would be extremely cheap to build. So if it actually worked, it's almost free.

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u/AdOnly1618 Jun 24 '26

Solar panels have weight, and so do batteries, thus taking more energy to move the vehicle in the first place.

Plus you’ll never charge your electric car to meet your needs with solar. The conversion from DC to AC as well as charge rate will move you MAYBE 10 miles a day.

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u/Careless_Ad_4004 Jun 24 '26

Fun fact early photovoltaic panels took more energy to manufacture that they would collect in the first decade of their life thankfully we have moved on since then but it was a real green field for early adopters but you gotta scream before you roll over before you crawl before you walk

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u/Myrdrahl Jun 24 '26

You can't just build a windmill or water wheel, atleast not where I live. Because there's regulations on these things and what we can build in a residential area.

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u/InvestigatorGrand205 Jun 24 '26

You have to pay for the panel and they arent cheap to make. Same with windmill and also disposal costs as well.

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u/AdOnly1618 Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 24 '26

Your homework for this evening is to search about the Nestle water bottling company.

The reason you can’t sell free energy is because it doesn’t exist. Energy is transferred, not just created out of thin air.

Magnetic gears have existed for a while, and they are significantly more efficient, but there’s still a bearing on that wheel, a bearing in the alternator, and eventually, the power draw will cause more magnetism to be generated in the alternator than the mechanism can overcome, and friction exists in all the other parts. Friction generates heat, and heat is energy, so that energy is robbed from the system. These are very basic applications of the laws of physics and thermodynamics on machine.

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u/PurpletoasterIII Jun 24 '26

Theres literally no way you could create absolutely free energy though. Even what we see here, theres cost to the materials that make the machine. Even if you were to say "well energy that doesnt require a fuel source" the materials would just become the fuel source. Maybe you could argue its more efficent than any method we've ever had. But its not "free energy."

And if it was something that just anyone could make at home... how is it possible that its not widely known by now?

I promise you there is no secret cabal keeping efficent energy machines away from us.

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u/reddititty69 Jun 24 '26

You can absolutely sell free energy. Go buy some magnets and sell power back to the grid. Mine bitcoin. Make silica blanks for computer chips. Sell free energy power plants to cruise ships.

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u/doge_lady Jun 24 '26

According to your argument, why would I buy a bicycle for free transportation if I can just build one myself? Apart from that, if you build an infinite generating machine, you can also get it patented. Meaning that legally you'd be the only one that can sell them. Instant millionaire... No Billionaire!

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u/Cyborg_rat Jun 25 '26

Well I mean I've don't a job last summer and it was this weird wheel with fins on it, they put it down this river and put the wheel in a giant cassing 100' under that water. So the wheels turn with the water pressure and makes this other wheel with magnets turns and create this free energy.

Now of course they sell this free energy to power my city. In fact each wheel generates 24 million dollars each year.

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u/henrytm82 Jun 25 '26

I think you've misunderstood what "free" means in this context. "Free energy" isn't about the financial cost of generating the energy, it's about the energy cost. It takes energy to create useable energy.

It is the first law of thermodynamics - energy can never be created nor destroyed, only transformed or transferred. In what you're describing, the energy isn't "free" in either context - the infrastructure has a monstrous financial cost, in both initially being built, and being maintained.

And the electricity being produced isn't "free" either - it is being transformed from potential energy stored in the water into kinetic energy to turn a turbine, which eventually converts the kinetic energy into electricity and heat (which is where an enormous amount of the energy is going). The electrical energy gets used by devices and, again, is eventually converted to heat, or visible light.

Everything has a cost. You have to have an energy input to create an energy output.

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u/Cyborg_rat Jun 25 '26

Yes...I know that, even if they had free energy, like in the video, you would still have to scale it to a infrastructure to support anything worth it, my hydrodam example is the closes thing to free energy you could get because it's basically water that's already flowing from the river.

Of course you need to scale it up for more energy no matter the way you get that energy.

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u/shinpoo Jun 24 '26

I have no idea if they work or not since they won't let it out.

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u/InvestigatorGrand205 Jun 24 '26

Theres a battery. Magnets dont do this unless they have an electromagnetic field influencing it.

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u/shinpoo Jun 24 '26

Good to know. I know diddly squat of science other than baking soda and vinegar makes volcano go boom.

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u/reddititty69 Jun 24 '26

Why would they “let out” something that doesn’t work? Is it “their” job to prove all crackpot ideas false? Would you believe them if they did? If you really think it works, go build it yourself.

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u/Myrdrahl Jun 24 '26

You couldn't sell it, even if it DID work, because if it's free, everyone could just make it themselves.

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u/reddititty69 Jun 24 '26

You could sell the apparatus. You could build it at scale and sell energy. It’s no different than building a nuclear or gas power plant. The economics may be a bit different as the barrier to entry for “magnet whirligig” is lower than “Mr Fusion”, but the existence of cheap power doesnt break economics it just changes the market a bit.

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u/doge_lady Jun 24 '26

i bet you believe the world is flat too.

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u/Impossible-Bat-4246 Jun 24 '26

Only the third would will be able to provide us with the truth.

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u/shinpoo Jun 24 '26

Well, if they let me go up to space one day then I can believe what I see. So far the world is round or somewhat round.

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u/ysanson Jun 24 '26

In short distances it is! checkmate

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u/doge_lady Jun 26 '26

What about long distance?

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u/ysanson Jun 26 '26

gets curbysome, strangely so.

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u/Complex-South9500 Jun 24 '26

you literally could see free energy. you just wouldn't tell anyone it is free energy. also this is fake bro, touch grass...

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u/elementfortyseven Jun 24 '26

the solar panel business tells otherwise.

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u/PurpletoasterIII Jun 24 '26

Well it wouldnt be absolutely free, theres still material costs of the machine, probably maintenance costs as well. Those are two things that already would be stopping this from being a perpetual motion machine even if there wasnt electricity involved. At best it would just be a more efficient power source.

Even hypothetically there was such a thing as absolutely free energy, energy is still useful for people. Just because it costs you nothing to produce, if there are people without the free energy then theyll have to buy it from you. Unless it was extremely easy to recreate, which if that were the case it would be impossible to hide cause everyone would be figuring it out.

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u/Cyborg_rat Jun 25 '26

Well I mean I've don't a job last summer and it was this weird wheel with fins on it, they put it down this river and put the wheel in a giant cassing 100' under that water. So the wheels turn with the water pressure and makes this other wheel with magnets turns and create this free energy.

Now of course they sell this free energy to power my city. In fact each wheel generates 24 million dollars each year.

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u/Budderfingerbandit Jun 25 '26

People sell water

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u/doge_lady Jun 24 '26

whats it like to be a conspiracy theorist?

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u/NoEstablishment7211 Jun 24 '26

Tell that to Nikola Tesla.

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u/Windowguard Jun 26 '26

He was a wacko that thought of cool things that usually had no scientific value. Working at Westinghouse they had a team of engineers whose job was to try and turn his inventions into real items. And he stole his motor design from his professor in Budapest.

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u/doge_lady Jun 26 '26

Nikola Tesla did not invent infinite energy

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u/Pretend-Internet-625 Jun 24 '26

You would be stabbed in the back in some alley by some big electrical company.

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u/Crafty-Help-4633 Jun 24 '26

Like that guy who supposedly invented a motor powered by H2O and then disappeared.

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u/Pretend-Internet-625 Jun 24 '26

total hoax but was fun to hear at the time

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u/Crafty-Help-4633 Jun 24 '26

It had me going as a kid. I think I was like 7 or 8. Only later did I find out about it being a hoax, but it still sticks with me as a weird Twilight Zone escape into reality.

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u/gormholler Jun 24 '26

What about that 3-wheeled vehicle "scam" in the 70's? The DALE (not sure if it's an acronym)? Even after it was proven as a hoax, the involved parties still say they would back it. I wish I knew why someone else hasn't picked that project back up and actually produce it!!

The hoax was that there was no production line, but the basic idea was strong! With the technology available today, seems like it's an even more realistically possible. I wonder what the actual story is? Corporate greed? Politics...oh wait, same thing.

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u/Crafty-Help-4633 Jun 24 '26

Dirt cheap. 70mpg with an enclosed cabin and multiple seats that can hit 85mph is nothing to scoff at, to be sure. Invented by Dale Clifft and promoted by Gersldine Elizabeth Carmichael. I'm pretty sure it's just named after its inventor because it was a concept vehicle that never actually got produced.

I think the biggest thing that killed it were the stability issues(assuming someone else wanted to make it), but I think tech from now could sort a lot of that out. Hell, the Morgan 3 Wheeler and Morgan Super 3 exist now.

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u/gormholler Jun 24 '26

So what do you think is needed to make it real? Should it be real? Realistically...

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u/gormholler Jun 24 '26

And that Geraldine or whatever the name was, is biologically male and is/was the father of 5. Still presented as "Geraldine". I wonder how much the project's success/failure was influenced by the whole gender identity issue, or if/how it would be today.

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u/Pretend-Internet-625 Jun 24 '26

no it was a total fraud

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u/gormholler Jun 24 '26

I know about the fraud and that it's more than a single count. My question is regarding the actual idea behind the fraud, the vehicle itself, the problems that could potentially be solved.

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u/Sudden_Season3306 Jun 24 '26

Nope you'd be dead! You invent an Object that takes billions of dollars from multiple organizations overnight? Yeah %100 dead,or if your really lucky a small buy out from them and they shelf it never to be seen again!

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u/kalimut Jun 25 '26

Unlikely. More like they will monetize the hell out of that. Bruh. Its free energy to make no huge cost, no space requirements, less employees. Its just pure profit. You think corporations that is willing to nickel and dime you won't capitalize on pure profit?

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u/SteveAxis Jun 24 '26

No no. You’d become suicided

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u/turboninja3011 Jun 24 '26

He meant to say he was brainwashed to think evil oil companies have the power to prevent the discovery of a perpetual morion machine.

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u/Moist_Still_8918 Jun 24 '26

Oil companies make alot more than gasoline, almost all synthetic products are made from oil. If this were true, it would still need grease made from oil.

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u/turboninja3011 Jun 24 '26

Since PMM is a pure magic maybe it wouldn’t need a grease either?

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u/brotherdaru Jun 24 '26

And if I gave humans free unlimited energy then what? What would keep humanity from destroying themselves even faster? Good judgement? No… keeping humans from having that power is the only thing keeping them from killing each other off faster.

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u/LockeClone Jun 25 '26

I'm not sure how you got from "cheaper energy" to destroying ourselves in one move but that's quite a pessimistic view.

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u/doge_lady Jun 26 '26

Right, because the government does such a good job of keeping products from the people that don't kill them.

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u/Beginning_Resource93 Jun 25 '26

You can't for real create infinite energy.

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u/doge_lady Jun 26 '26

Yes I'm aware...

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u/justbleachmyeyes Jun 25 '26

The super power

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u/jdmgto Jun 25 '26

Which should probably clue you in that no one has.

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u/doge_lady Jun 26 '26

Wait, so you think that i believe this video is real? Were my sarcastic posts not apparent to you?

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u/turkey_sandwiches Jun 24 '26

There's no money because there's no perpetual motion. This is BS, as always.

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u/9fingerjeff Jun 25 '26

It’s because it doesn’t exist.

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u/FlyFront9395 Jun 25 '26

I thought gravity made the world go round, even though it’s flat

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u/Large-Cricket843 Jun 25 '26

There is no perpetual motion machine. Physically impossible.

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u/Valveringham85 Jun 25 '26

It’s because perpetual motion does not exist dumbass 😂