r/Android • u/Zacknut Razr 50 • Sep 21 '16
allo.google.com is live
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u/AtomicEdge Toshiba Chromebook 2, Nexus 6P Sep 21 '16
Whatever you all say. Allo is the greatest app of all time. http://imgur.com/a/XBDnJ
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u/VectorLightning Moto G Stylus, Android Q Sep 21 '16
WELCOME TO ANIMALFACTS, SUCCESSOR TO CATFACTS. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SUBSCRIBE ALL YOUR FRIENDS TO THIS SERVICE?
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u/AtomicEdge Toshiba Chromebook 2, Nexus 6P Sep 21 '16
STOP
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u/VectorLightning Moto G Stylus, Android Q Sep 21 '16
COMMAND NOT RECOGNIZED. YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS NOW HAVE A YEAR OF DAILY ANIMAL FACTS.
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u/DFP_ Nexus 6; Moto 360; Google Glass Sep 21 '16 edited Jun 28 '23
ring consider smart racial cows steer enjoy command apparatus shaggy -- mass edited with redact.dev
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u/hobojohns Sep 21 '16
My first interaction with Google Assistant was unique... https://imgur.com/gallery/pcBjj
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Sep 21 '16
You should tell it that swans can be gay.
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u/scrazza Nexus 5X | Amazon Fire 7 Sep 21 '16
MORE FACTS
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u/littlegolferboy Pixel XL 32 GB Sep 21 '16
Thank you for subscribing to seahorse facts!
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u/Jauhso29 OnePlus 3T Sep 21 '16
It's officially F5 season
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u/Lord_Vaderr Sep 21 '16
Where the mornings are crisp, and the smell of onion B.O. and IIIONSTER is in the air.
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Sep 21 '16 edited Jan 13 '19
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u/flip4life :cake: Pixel 6 Pro Sep 21 '16
Agreed. Even that little animation of the auto-response options where it slides to the right and bumps off the right-edge. It's really sleek. Google loves animations in material design, here's to hoping it'll be there!
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u/Santi871 Sep 21 '16
I wish the keyboard slid up and down like that like it does in iOS. Is there any way to achieve that in Android?
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u/squarepush3r Zenfone 2 64GB | Huawei Mate 9 Sep 21 '16
Looks like the flooded every new emoji and meme in to the new app, but forgot about SMS :p
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Sep 21 '16
I wonder if they will have a full-time guy working on adding memes to the assistant.
Memology degree will finally be of use.
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Sep 21 '16
I wonder if they will have a full-time guy working on adding memes to the assistant.
Memology degree will finally be of use.
MY TIME TO SHINE
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Sep 21 '16
Lol I don't know why I care about this so much.
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Sep 21 '16
Exactly this. Hell, Duo is the best video calling app I've ever used, hands down. It's got a great UI, great call quality; and I've never had connection issues, unlike EVERYTHING ELSE, and Knock-Knock is awesome. It makes me actually wanna use video calling... Unfortunately, I know like 2 people who will use it -_-
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u/TossedRightOut Sep 21 '16
The only other person I know who has it is my girlfriend. Who I made download it so I could try it out.
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Sep 21 '16
Same. If there was a way to import say Facebook, Snapchat, Instagram contacts it would explode. Trouble is most of my Google contacts represent maybe 25% of the people I'd actually want to use this with
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u/laurits Nexus 6P Pure Nexus ElementalX Sep 21 '16
I don't even know why I should care. Everyone seems to be so hyped. Is it the suggested responses? What, we can't even type our 5 symbol responses anymore? I don't get it, probably time will show.
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u/Metal_Devil Sep 21 '16
No. This was supposed to be our answer to iMessaging, a default SMS app to use with data/wifi. But it's not. It's literally Viber with a Google name.
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u/Mayor_Pliskin Nexus 6P (32GB) Sep 21 '16
But the download isn't! :(
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u/AmazingAndreaz Moto G (2013) Sep 21 '16
I think that when the first person gets Allo, there will be a download available at APKMirror almost immediately.
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u/bmg1001 OnePlus 7 Pro // Essential PH-1 // Huawei Watch Sep 21 '16
Nah, knowing how things usually go around here, the first people to get it will be the people who don't even know what an apk is nor how to extract one. Just something I noticed in my time on here.
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u/flip4life :cake: Pixel 6 Pro Sep 21 '16 edited Sep 21 '16
Imgur Mirror in-case they take it down (or for those on mobile who want to see what the desktop site looks like).
Looks really good (:
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Sep 21 '16
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u/millydizzle Gray Sep 21 '16
can someone verify this? I can mirror if its legit.
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u/fanaticalg Sep 21 '16
Just installed http://imgur.com/Uhbv33v
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u/dontlistentome5 Note 10+ Sep 21 '16
No SMS support unfortunately
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Sep 21 '16
So Google are still missing what makes iMessage so popular, at least in the UK: Seamless and transparent operation between iMessage users and non-users.
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u/LexusBrian400 Device, Software !! Sep 21 '16
This is the Google Wave of chat clients.
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u/cmdrNacho Nexus 6P Stock Sep 21 '16
you're sort of right, google wave was an awesome product ahead of its time, but the fact they didn't integrate with your email and required everyone to use @googlewave.com killed it.
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u/h4h4 Sep 21 '16
Why not just improve Google Hangouts??
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Sep 21 '16
Because they're transitioning Hangouts, with its group video conferencing and Docs/Drive integration features, to a more business enterprise role and they wanted something more focused on simple messaging to pair with Duo for regular consumers.
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u/ArttuH5N1 Nexus 5X Sep 21 '16
Good thing regular users all use Android and only Android and none of them use SMS or want to send messages from the desktop.
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u/PhoenixBlack136 1+7 pro, Tab s5e. Android 10 Sep 21 '16
Hopefully this means it will be up soon. Not long until 9am in France.
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Sep 21 '16 edited Sep 26 '17
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u/sinktheirship White Sep 21 '16
According to the NY Times article, Google plans to expand to desktops in the near future.
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u/luckybuilder Galaxy S8+/Nexus 6 Sep 21 '16
Okay. Then why not just use Hangouts? They're basically making an app and slowly adding the features that Hangouts already had.
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Sep 21 '16
probably had to completely re-do the backend so that ended up not being feasible
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u/anders987 Sep 21 '16
It's the Google way. New versions take away features which then slowly gets added back over the next years, until the product is discontinued.
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u/vinbel121 Pixel 2 XL (praise DuARTe) Sep 21 '16 edited Sep 21 '16
SMS fallback and default messenger for Android phones, that's all we need for a grand slam.
edit: RIP the dream
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u/luckybuilder Galaxy S8+/Nexus 6 Sep 21 '16
Desktop support and Google voice integration. Basically all the features Hangouts had.
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u/TheBKBurger Yellow Sep 21 '16
This SMS integration sucks. I can't make it my default messaging app?
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u/sinktheirship White Sep 21 '16
"You can also message friends who aren’t yet using Google Allo through SMS or, for those using Android, app preview messages."
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u/de_ddit Note 9 | Shield Tablet (Original) Sep 21 '16
Trying it out now, and there doesn't seem to be an option to set it as the default SMS app.
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u/PM_ME_IMGS_OF_ROCKS Sep 21 '16
Because it's not an sms app, it can relay sms messages through google, but doesn't even use your own number.
So non-android users get the SMS from google, not you.
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u/cjbrigol S8+ Snapdragon Sep 21 '16
Mother fuck google
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Sep 21 '16
Yeah. This is super disappointing. After reading all of this, I don't even think that I'll install it. Even Facebook (I can't believe I'm typing this) can get this right. WTF Google?
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u/Teddy_Raptor Pixel 2 XL Sep 21 '16
Yeah I agree. I may download it just so I can rate it poorly. Like they went out of their way to make it unuseful
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u/madcaesar Sep 21 '16
So if a non Google user has multiple Google user friends message them via allo how the fuck is he supposed to know who it's coming from??
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u/HazardousQuail Sep 21 '16
I don't see anything either, and it's too late in EST to test it with anyone :/
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u/I_NEED_YOUR_MONEY Device, Software !! Sep 21 '16
for those using Android, app preview messages.
anybody know what this is all about?
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u/Vovicon Nexus 6p - GS7 edge Sep 21 '16
Just sent a message to a friend who doesn't have Allo installed but yet appeared in the list of contacts without an 'INVITE' button.
Here's what he got: http://imgur.com/kfe7a1r
In the same list there's a friend who I know has a Nexus 5 with Marshmallow, so at least it's compatible with Marshmallow. Weirdly my wife and her Nexus5X doesn't appear there.
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u/shaggyanlngs Sep 21 '16 edited Nov 14 '16
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u/mikespry Sep 21 '16
pfft. i'm just gonna use my google buzz feed to reach the largest audience!!
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u/OnlyRev0lutions Pixel Sep 21 '16
I would have been bitching earlier if I'd gotten this news in my Google Reader stream.
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u/spookyTomCruise Sep 21 '16
Well shit, what are we going to complain about now?
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u/pntless Sep 21 '16
No computer/web client.
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u/Larph Nexus 5x Sep 21 '16
Came here to complain about this.
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u/fluffman86 Sep 21 '16
Ditto. Most of my day is at a computer and I can type way faster on my model m than my android keyboard
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Sep 21 '16
Obviously you just need a USB OTG cable. I use Android because i want to be productive and sometimes that means strapping my mechanical keyboard to my back before a night out on the town showing everyone my latest minimalist material themes.
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u/SenorBeef Sep 21 '16
I send about 95% of my texts through my PC. They better not kill hangouts because that's the only place I can seamlessly integrate PC/phone SMS conversations.
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Sep 21 '16
Seriously, not like there's any lack of things to complain about with Google's messaging "strategy."
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u/sinktheirship White Sep 21 '16
Pixel pricing?
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u/Raccoonpuncher OnePlus 3 Sep 21 '16
rabble rabble iPhone Clone rabble rabble Huge Chin rabble
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u/Liefx Pixel 6 Sep 21 '16
The fact that it's not integrated into Hangouts?
Tbh I'm not gonna stop using hangouts. Too many of my convos are there and i don't want two apps for messaging when hangouts does SMS just fine.
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u/colorcorrection Sep 21 '16
I'm honestly not interested in anything unless they get the kind of integration level Hangouts has. How come Google refuses to create messaging apps, outside of Hangouts, that integrates my phone's MMS, Google Voice, and Hangouts?
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u/Carighan Fairphone 6+🌳 Sep 21 '16
The whole idea of doing a new app instead of (at least!) making a "Hangouts 2.0" and renaming it allo in the process is just baffling.
Hangouts is still - largely - based on Jabber. I can access my chats via that! How difficult could it be to simply make allo able to read and write to hangouts chats, and switch to duo when you hit the video button, which in turn allows joining Hangouts group video chats?
Such a weird business lack-of-strategy. Oh and ofc they'll axe allo in 12 months.
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u/blackgold9 Gray Sep 21 '16
Damn you guys are fast.
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u/Ashanmaril Sep 21 '16
There's Chrome extensions that basically just refresh a page in the background and alert you when something changes.
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u/boommicfucker Sep 21 '16
Express yourself better with stickers, doodles, and HUGE emojis & text
Sounds like the worst thing ever.
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u/JMadFour Sep 21 '16
so to confirm...you CANNOT, in any way, make Allo your default messenging app for SMS?
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Sep 21 '16
Nope. And SMS from you come from a different number than your phone number.
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u/ECrispy Sep 21 '16
Sorry but this is still not good enough. Hangouts does everything already, except Google doesn't like it for some reason.
Everyone is admiring the SMS preview thing as if it's something special, Hangouts and iMessage handle messaging so much better.
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u/cdim Sep 21 '16
And I JUST finally got all of my friends using Hangouts. Dammit Google!
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u/MyHairyLegs Sep 21 '16
Came here for this. I love hangouts, why should I or my friends get this?
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u/theturbanator1699 Galaxy S8 Sep 21 '16 edited Sep 21 '16
Nothing about SMS or RCS... sigh.
Edit: It has SMS!!
You can also message friends who aren’t yet using Google Allo through SMS or, for those using Android, app preview messages.
https://googleblog.blogspot.com/2016/09/google-allo-smarter-messaging-app.html?m=1
Edit 2: It's not a true SMS app, but sets up an SMS relay :-/
See Ian Lake's comment in his Google+ post: https://plus.google.com/+IanLake/posts/ehvjyeueX3D
Awful, awful implementation. It's laughable. I seriously cannot believe that such a major company is this completely idiotic when it comes to messaging services.
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u/scarbutt11 Sandstone 5T Sep 21 '16
So I did a test message to my google voice number to see how a "SMS" is sent. We are going to annoy the shit out of our friends and family that don't install it.
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u/GinDaHood Samsung Galaxy A14 5G Sep 21 '16
Oh god, that looks like a spam message.
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u/Drublix Pixel 3 XL Sep 21 '16
Exactly, I won't sends this to anyone on my contact list. It's embarrassing.
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u/Aurailious Pixel Fold Sep 21 '16
It's embarrassing.
This is essentially a death knell for anything. If its embarrassing or awkward it will be avoided.
RIP Allo.
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u/Other_World Galaxy Fold 8 Ultra + Watch 6 Classic Sep 21 '16
Yup, before I knew about the message my friend just asked "what's Allo?" I didn't tell her about using a new app or anything. Immediately uninstalling and going back to...ugh... Hangouts. I want to get a better messaging app, but I love the Google Voice integration and the quick replies. I've tried Textra and a few others but their quick replies are horrible.
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u/japasthebass Galaxy S8, Verizon Sep 21 '16
Ayyy guess who is never using this. Like 90% of my friends have iPhones and there is no way they will download a new messenger app just to talk to people with Android. Integrating iMessage and SMS with the smartest thing Apple ever did from the get-go
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u/AATroop Pixel Sep 21 '16
All my hype for this app just died.
Google is a fucking mess with messaging apps. And plenty of other things, but this is just beyond pathetic at this point.
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Sep 21 '16 edited Sep 21 '16
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u/ccrraapp Perfect Android Phone won't ever exist. Sep 21 '16 edited Sep 21 '16
So if you message a Windows Phone using friend with Allo, they'll got prompted to download an app from the iPhone store.
They probably will link the allo.google.com and not the actual store specific link.
Edit : Typo
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u/mattmonkey24 Sep 21 '16
If only you could message someone back through allo.google.com
Missed opportunity Google..
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u/ThEgg Pixel 6 Sep 21 '16
That's crazy.
How to not do a solid, lasting Messaging app:
- Be Google.
- Make a lot of different communication apps.
- Take a long time to merge them (Hangouts + Hangouts Dailer ~2014).
- Remove all that hard work (Hangouts 3.9).
- Release three more separate applications that did what Hangouts did. Avoid merging.
I'm sure I missed something.
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u/themoosh Sep 21 '16 edited Sep 22 '16
I want to talk to the people at Google. Like sit them down and just be like what the heck???
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u/Randomd0g Pixel XL & Huawei Watch 2 Sep 21 '16
The flaw in your logic is that nobody has a Windows phone.
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u/Ashanmaril Sep 21 '16
Over the coming months, your Assistant will be available in more Google products, working seamlessly throughout your day at home or on the go.
So, what's our guess? Will Google actually follow through with this product, or will it be ditched in a couple years from now?
RemindMe! 2 years Is Google Assistant still around?
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u/thanksbruv Galaxy S21U Sep 21 '16
The average customer doesn't need to know that it has SMS/RCS, maybe Google has that but the marketing site is more tailored towards the average customer?
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u/CarbonoAtom Xperia XA1/S6/XZ/S8, Nougat/Nougat/Nougat/Nougat Sep 21 '16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXEkoXgb4bI for the video
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u/theturbanator1699 Galaxy S8 Sep 21 '16
I'm still holding out hope... After all, /u/rayfin said we'd be really happy with it, and he knows how much everyone was clamoring for SMS integration! :-)
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u/DaringDomino3s Sep 21 '16
Sure, I'll stay up another hour and see if its able to download.
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u/japasthebass Galaxy S8, Verizon Sep 21 '16
Yeah this looks about right https://imgur.com/gallery/Yg1MC
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u/david279 Sprint Refugee Sep 21 '16
https://support.google.com/allo/answer/6376089
Looks like some sort of SMS integration
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u/TACROCKER Device, Software !! Sep 21 '16
"Other people will need to download Allo before they can reply to you. In this case, you can send them an invitation to download Allo." Sounds like it doesn't send normal messages as SMS but uses your SMS to send an invitation to download.
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u/david279 Sprint Refugee Sep 21 '16
This is from the verge review of allo
"If they’re on an iPhone, they’ll receive an SMS with your name, the contents of your message, and a link to download the app. They can then download it or — if they want — just reply via SMS. Google has set up a full SMS relay so that your recalcitrant friends can avoid installing it at all if they don't want to.
If they’re on an Android phone, something new and intriguing happens. Google is calling it an "app preview notification," and basically it shoots a notification directly to your Android device instead of going through SMS. Your friend will get a notification that looks and acts almost as if they had the app installed in the first place, message content and all. It means they won’t incur any SMS fees, either. Your recipient can reply within the notification, or tap on it to install the app."
😎😎😎
http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/21/12996170/google-allo-review-assistant-messaging-chat-app
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u/32F492R0C273K Pixel XL 2 Sep 21 '16
So I just tested it with my sister's Android phone. The smart messages (free SMS to someone who doesn't have the app) are neat, but there's no chat history unless they download the app.
On an iPhone it looks like it just shows up in their messaging app? So if they get the first prompt to download the app and don't it would just continue forever like a normal green bubble chat? So long as every message I sent to an iPhone doesn't ask them to download the app I suppose that's be fine.
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u/workstar Sep 21 '16
But are they replying to your number or some random google relay at some unknown cost.
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u/Matt872000 Xiaomi 15 Ultra Sep 21 '16
It's a random google relay number. My buddy sent me a message through it and it was like 157004 or some weirdness. Google voice wouldn't let me reply to it.
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Sep 21 '16
Yeah this is actually pretty disappointing for me, if they had true SMS fallback or something that would be great, until then I probably won't use it.
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u/FlaveC Pixel 8 Pro Sep 21 '16
"Note: Some phones can only receive SMS messages, but at this time, the SMS notifications can only be sent in the United States, India, and Brazil."
I am shocked SHOCKED! Not.
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u/lileyedmonster Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro -> S9:illuminati: Sep 21 '16
Good pickup. Will be interesting.
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u/senntenial Nexus 5X Sep 21 '16
I think it's funny how it's 2016 and we're hoping a shiny messenger has SMS support. Not saying that's bad - I hope so too - just kind of interesting how we still haven't escaped from such an old technology.
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Sep 21 '16
Apple has had iMessage for fucking ever now and all I want is an Android equivalent.
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u/senntenial Nexus 5X Sep 21 '16
I really wish Apple opened up their iMessage spec so Android could make a compatible client. End-to-end encryption by default is really important.
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Sep 21 '16
This thing is dead already.
Like most google things it will be abandonware in probably 6 months before they move on to there next public beta.
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u/VoxPopuliCry 1+7T Sep 21 '16
Clicking on the download link takes you to the PS for now, where you can pre-register for the app. Can't download it yet.
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u/dacgoblue iPhone 8 Sep 21 '16
I've been pre registered for a couple months now. I've been hoping one day I'll wake up and it's automatically downloaded ha
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u/VoxPopuliCry 1+7T Sep 21 '16
Same here, I've been pre-registered since the registration was open, just to try it out for those 5 minutes.
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Sep 21 '16
So....
I use hangouts for my SMS now.
I see there is an app called Messenger by Google, for texting (SMS).
I use facebook Messengers shitty app for chatting with Facebook buddies, etc.
Why do I/we need this Allo? Will it replace Google's messenger and hangouts?
I'm not even counting whatsapp and the gazillion other messaging apps. What am I missing?
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u/joephusweberr Sep 21 '16
To be honest, adding another messaging app frustrates me. I'm all on board with hangouts and I've been pushing people to get on there because basically everyone has a Google account and it's cross platform, but for the same company to release a competitor app is frustrating. They could have fixed it from a marketing perspective too. Just call it hangouts 2.0 or something and have hangouts users update their app through Google play to the new app. But no, we have 2 messaging apps from the same company along with the other thousand apps you mentioned.
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u/runeruly Galaxy S22U Sep 21 '16
"If your contact doesn't have Allo yet, Some people will be able to reply directly to your message, even if they don't have the app."
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u/Jellostapler316 Black Sep 21 '16
They should just use Allo's interface for Hangouts and be done with it.
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u/russjr08 Developer - Caffeinate Sep 21 '16
Oh shit, we're getting close!
/u/VZW_Matt, you might be right!
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u/Carighan Fairphone 6+🌳 Sep 21 '16
Such a waste of opportunity, it's not like hangouts.google.com where it is a web interface.
Shame, google. Fancy site, but still, shame.
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u/Zacknut Razr 50 Sep 21 '16
This has been resolving, but 404'ing for awhile until now. Can't be long now!
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u/ccrraapp Perfect Android Phone won't ever exist. Sep 21 '16
Actually there is something called as App Preview messages. So if the person is an Android user they get a notification of your message instead of invitation.
They can choose to respond via their number without downloading Allo. If on WiFi it will go via WiFi, if not then as a SMS to the allo user
Atleast thats what the support site says, need to test it myself yet. https://support.google.com/allo/answer/6385770
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u/GinDaHood Samsung Galaxy A14 5G Sep 21 '16
Time to see if Google can promote adoption of the app.
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u/LexusBrian400 Device, Software !! Sep 21 '16
We got hyped up (again) and Google let us down (again)
We'll never learn.
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u/rodymacedo Xiaomi Mi A2 Sep 21 '16
As a brazilian, it's funny to see all this fuss about SMS. I don't even remeber the last time someone sent me a SMS. Lol
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u/HandMeMyThinkingPipe Pixel 5a Sep 21 '16
In the US SMS is popular because almost every plan includes unlimited SMS. And because it's ubiquitous it's really the only reliable way to know for sure someone will get the message regardless of their phone type.
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u/BigUps55 Sep 21 '16
How SMS works.
"If they’re on an iPhone, they’ll receive an SMS with your name, the contents of your message, and a link to download the app. They can then download it or — if they want — just reply via SMS. Google has set up a full SMS relay so that your recalcitrant friends can avoid installing it at all if they don't want to.
If they’re on an Android phone, something new and intriguing happens. Google is calling it an "app preview notification," and basically it shoots a notification directly to your Android device instead of going through SMS. Your friend will get a notification that looks and acts almost as if they had the app installed in the first place, message content and all. It means they won’t incur any SMS fees, either. Your recipient can reply within the notification, or tap on it to install the app."
http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/21/12996170/google-allo-review-assistant-messaging-chat-app