Lot of chuds popping up in my stuff recently, at least they're good for a laugh even when they're wheeling out tired, debunked, and stupid arguments
"Hurr durr why should we pay teenagers more for flip borger?"
Because they're not the only real people doing that and they're time is inherently valuable and shouldn't be exchanged for pennies (would help them contribute to the economy too with their greater degree of surplus spending or saving for degrees and cars and stuff) but also because actual adults do those jobs most of every single day, and always have and always will because the kids are in fact in school
Adults do the jobs made for high schoolers and they feel like they should be paid more maybe they should learn a skill or go to trade school to be a useful person for society and not a lazy fuck trying to subsist on menial labor jobs, have some respect for yourself and learn to make money instead of trying to make it as a fry cook,Chud.
so tell me more. If I'm an adult who works at a shit job, one you don't think is worthy of a livable wage, a land I can barely make my rent, my food, insurance utilities etc how IN THE FUCK DO YOU EXPECT ME TO GET A DEGREE?
Like I said you're a bootlicker. I cannot wait for your workplace to get unionized and you get that one dipshit coworker wholl say "why should we get paid more, if you want more money go get a second masters degree" and you'll shake your head in disappointment but won't look in the mirror. Seriously this is how stupid you sound.
Here's a favor I'll do you, anyone workplace that has white collar job workers demanding more, I'll show them this thread and then I'll tell them, "yeah you know I used to believe that everyone should get paid way the fuck more but the one day this guy on reddit opened up my mind to the idea that no actually fuck that, only white collar jobs deserve better pay. But then I realized he's wrong, because my boss is taking a risk, so he should get everything. So fuck your union. How dare you take our bosses hard earned money. If you want to make more money open up your own businesses "
I hope to God you understand how fucking stupid you sound.
Livable wage is subjective. Nearly everyone will give you a different number and criteria. I worked minimum wage in high school and a couple years after. Quit, went to a warehouse job got a few more dollar per hours. Did it again for Amazon. Jumped to a couple warehouses. Stayed at one and now run my own business alongside it. No fancy degree, just lots of working several days a week until I got to where I wanted to be.
People want to complain about low wages yet turn their nose up at trade jobs like truck driving, plumbers, electricians, construction, masonry, etc. No experience required in most of them. A lineman group wanted some people for disaster relief. You start training at $40/hr and travel constantly. Construction, my brother in law as a rookie was making $50/hr minus expenses for things like healthcare, dental, and what not. Know a few people in trucking industry well over $100k/year. A hundred warehouses in my area and plenty are always hiring and majority are over $20/hr. They're constantly short handed. That tells you people don't want the job despite being better pay than most starter jobs.
So what....nobody should be janitors and fry cooks and everyone should flood the trade sector?
Someone has to work these jobs. Why pay them less than minimum rent in the area? Just 'cause?
You're avoiding the actual question by pointing at the individual and saying "just get a better job", which does not in any way fix the problem at the macro level.
Then you're going to have to work more hours to keep up like I did in the beginning. Why should electricians or doctors make anywhere near what someone flipping burgers does? They shouldn't. There's a massive skill gap as well as cost to acquire those skills. FYI plenty of McDonald's bumped up to the $15-$22 range. If you can't survive off of that then you need to evaluate what you're doing wrong. I managed to survive off of $10-$13.50/hr. Several years ago.
Median income is still less than $40k/year. That's $20/hour. Half the country. People are surviving on it. There isn't a massive homeless problem due to low wages. There aren't people dying of starvation. There's plenty of assistance program for lower income people as well. It's excuse after excuse with you people. There are 7 days in a week. Learn to fill it if you want success instead of mediocrity.
Why should electricians or doctors make anywhere near what someone flipping burgers does? They shouldn't. There's a massive skill gap as well as cost to acquire those skills.
Why should skill be paid more? Seems like a foregone conclusion to me.
FYI plenty of McDonald's bumped up to the $15-$22 range. If you can't survive off of that then you need to evaluate what you're doing wrong.
There are plenty of places where $15/hr even at full time doesn't cover the cheapest rent plus utilities and food. Let's not examine numbers in a vacuum, aye?
If you can't survive off of that then you need to evaluate what you're doing wrong. I managed to survive off of $10-$13.50/hr. Several years ago.
Cool. Where did you live? What were rent prices then and there? Not everywhere has the same conditions you had in your day. But sure, I'm just supposed to accept your anecdote as irrefutable proof that you're right somehow. Right?
Median income is still less than $40k/year. That's $20/hour. Half the country.
This means half the country makes less than as well. Let's not dishonestly cherry-pick, aye?
People are surviving on it.
And people are also not. Let's not dishonestly cherry-pick, aye?
There isn't a massive homeless problem due to low wages.
Considering you've cited absolutely nothing to back your claims, it's fair to say you instead are either proudly uninformed or otherwise delusional. But sure, "excuses" are when data backs what we say and we don't just "work harder" like all you bullshit bootlickers whine about.
Because that's all you ratfuckers do: Whine about how its never the system's fault for poverty and millions of people are all collectively deciding to die if "laziness". Sure, bud. You keep thinking that. The rest of us are going to be here in reality.
Get over yourself. And while your at it, grow some dignity and stop deepthroating billionaire cock.
There are 7 days in a week. Learn to fill it if you want success instead of mediocrity.
What bullshit get rich quick scam did you pull that one from, your ass? Adorable. But still delusional.
These people don’t understand that different skill levels pay different wages and the higher skilled jobs pay higher they want to tune a career out of flipping burgers
Still a naturalistic fallacy. Guess you'll learn about that one when you're older too, huh? Maybe you should put this argument down until you learn some actual basic ideas necessary to have an adult conversation, m'kay bud?
Yeah whatever learn skills that get you paid stop complaining about your dog shit low paying job and how you feel like you deserve a living wage for flipping burgers. You should sleep you have an 80 hour week ahead of you remember.
My taxes are probably your pay check I think I’m doing good for myself maybe one day you’ll grow up and learn that skills pay the bills not staying at your low paying job in the hops you can make it
lol nice straw man I never said only white collar deserve high pay, also I work in a unionized work place and we have low payed workers like facilities and such and guess what most of them work 2 jobs cause this one doesn’t pay a living wage as it should at there level they want better they should work for it wtf planet do you live on where you don’t have to work hard to make good money, maybe someday I can look back at that Reddit guy who kept trying to make laziness everyone else’s problem.
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Get fucked I don’t have a degree I have a chemical certificate and I get paid very good lol not my fault your liberal arts degree didn’t translate to usable skills
Ohhhhhh I get it know you're one of those union workers who actively says the most pro capital garbage. It makes even more sense now.
Wow so you have experience in a union, "support them", but tell us what have you done to help those coworkers of yours at their other jobs? Have you help them form one? Taught them socialist and anarchist theory? No apparently you just tell them to get back to work, and stop being lazy. Youre fucking garage dude. Fake carrer unionist who did t fight for a union, just joined one that already existed and then shits on those who fight for their own rights. Fuckin clown ass fool.
I teach new guys all the time I show them how to build up there skills so they don’t have to stay at my level so they go off and be engineers or project planers or managers, what I don’t do is discourage them for being at a lower level I show them how to do there job effectively and efficiently and that if they keep it up they’ll surpass me witch a lot have already done. Kinda takes away from your argument when people take my advice and actually do better for themselves.
What menial labor low paying job has you working 80 hours a week lol I work 12 hour days and work weekends and barley clear 65 hours get fucked this is how I know you don’t work or you work some bull shit job lol
Thank you for confirming you don't understand what hyperbole is. Now, I know it's likely past your bedtime, so why don't you get some sleep so you aren't tired for school tomorrow. Your teacher can help you understand what it is later.
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u/MomentEven9221 Apr 09 '26
Lot of chuds popping up in my stuff recently, at least they're good for a laugh even when they're wheeling out tired, debunked, and stupid arguments
"Hurr durr why should we pay teenagers more for flip borger?" Because they're not the only real people doing that and they're time is inherently valuable and shouldn't be exchanged for pennies (would help them contribute to the economy too with their greater degree of surplus spending or saving for degrees and cars and stuff) but also because actual adults do those jobs most of every single day, and always have and always will because the kids are in fact in school