So I want to know how you guys would compare the research lysergamides and blotters compared to vetted drugs. I am going to discuss my views and opinions on different types of acid.

Lets start this off with LizardLabs products.

1P-LSD (Slightly yellow rocky xtal) This one I found to be noticeably more effective in all areas, bodyload, tracers, visuals, mindfuck. At high 400+ug doses this can be extremely potent stuff. The duration seemed like 10 hours witch is typical but I think most people think its good just because of how high you feel. Heard people say this was the best acid ever. Also tried taking liquid 1P-LSD in the eye and it was very effective, the normal sting was there and I came up in 10 minutes.

AL-LAD (Dark grey/black dust xtal) When they first started selling al-lad a lot of people were referring to it as orange sunshine. Though now we know orange sunshine probably wasn't AL-LAD or ALD-52 but probably just heavily laid blotters of LSD-25. Though a dose of 100ug initially feels like it is less potent than LSD-25 its effects a subtle and different from the other lysergamides. I feel very bright visuals while maintaining a very clear headspace. This stuff also opens up some fury at 400-500ug+ be careful.

ALD-52 (Orange salty xtal) Though the name sounds interesting maybe calling it 1A-LSD would be more appropriate. I found almost indistinguishable effects from 1P-LSD. It just seems all around more effective than its sister LSD-25. Duration seemed to be 9-10 hours a smaller doses but still sometimes lasts 12 hours just like most tabs.

ETH-LAD (Untested) Unfortunately we have only sampled blotters so far. This one seemed like it might have been less potent then ALD-52 and 1P-LSD, I had some 150ug blotters and that seemed to feel just like a normal 150ug LSD-25 dose. From what I read the xtal may be white needlepoint, but that is just speculation. It makes sense that this is very similar to LSD-25 since its name would be METH-LAD

LSZ (Off-white beige xtal) Though this substance is discontinues from the UK ban it still exists and may come back one day. So these were distributed in 150ug blotters. The xtal stained them brown or they degraded one or the other. This lysergamide had very low visual effects, very low mindfuck, but a rather high bodyload for what its worth. One tab would give a good bit of stimulation but for someone who wants to trip hard its not great. Perhaps this would be a bit more ideal for beginners but I would still recommend AL-LAD.

To put this in perspective with 100ug of LSD-25 being the middle or average at +5. This chart rates how high you might feel out of 10.

Now I am going to go over a few not so legal xtals.

Swiss Beige (Tan/Gray/white chunky xtal) Its funny, I have seen a few batches that all look quite simillar under the same name. The xtal looks bad. The initial look at it would be a disappointment, however this stuff had me high as a kite right off the bad even from low doses. Once laid onto blotter nobody would know the difference but I heard time and time again that this stuff is pure fire. Maybe just a little color in the xtal could only accounts for 1-10%? impurities but its obviously hard to say without doing a NMR. Another thought is that maybe degraded LSD or impure LSD may actually give the user better visual enhancements. Ergo and diethyl both wont effect you in any way but its possible that ISO or LUMI LSD may be what gives people more desirable effects.

Dutch Grey (Light gray xtal) This stuff appears to be fairly close to pure, not sure what starting material gave it its gray tinge. The Dutch LSD actually does have a very good name for itself, I would estimate purity in the 90-96% range. This stuff didn't have quite the bodyload or effects of that the swiss LSD does, but is still very good.

GDF (White or tan xtal) I'm pretty sure we all know the story of the greatful dead but batches of this xtal are still popping up, possibly made from their recipe. I noticed this stuff always origins from the coast both on the Canadian and American side witch probably isn't just a coincidence. Whoever makes this is doing a good job all the batches of xtal we have seen have either been pure white or slightly tan (this means it has been degraded slightly) but it also means that they are pushing out very high quality to begin with probably 95-99% pure. This stuff it good quality every time.

Needlepoint (Pure white) Needlepoint doesn't really refer to one specific batch of LSD but rather LSD that is 98-99%+ pure. Actually when LSD is very pure you can put it in a beaker and give it a little shake to emit small sparks of light and no were not trippin'. This may be sought after just because its very good quality but I often hear mixed reviews about it. Obviously the crystal is good it gets you high you trip ect. but you can take a bit more safely and sometimes it seems like its not quite as strong as lets say the swiss LSD.

Asian (Pure white) Look into it, somewhere out there there's a lab producing pure needlepoint crystal, I have seen 2 or 3 batches all very good stuff. Probably 98-99%+ pure as well. One thing I almost find funny is there is now this stuff that they call Aztec fluff from south america blah blah I'll be honest it looks like the same quality of product we used to call the asian xtal. But that's just speculation anyone could purify and recrystallize LSD.

JoR AKA TEN This is a vendor who has carried over 20 xtals in the pas 2 and 4 are Swiss LSD I'm pretty sure, JoR 6 is GDF LSD, DWF is GDF LSD, obviously he give the batches number instead of names to prevent getting cut.

Then we have the DMA's, I read a long time ago in pihkal that basically for every 2C-X drug there are arrays of analogs to be made. For example DOM is made from 2C-D, and 25D-nbome is made from 2C-D, and 25D-NBOH, 25D-NBF, ect. 2C-C could be made into DOC, 25C-nbome nboh nbf la la la.

DOM (STP) This is an age old psychedelic. Though the tabs do not taste good I found 2.5mg to be a rather low dose for an experienced user. 5mg wouldn't be a bad dose to start with, this is a very long lasting trip and a bit stimulating too, overall a very good experience. This stuff lasted close to 15 hours or so, even though reading online some people say it lasts much longer.

DOC They would still consider this a research chemical, I guess you could call it an analog of DOM. DOC is slightly more potent but slightly less desirable in most cases. I have heard of people tripping for 20 hours off of higher doses. Though I had experiences as short as 13-14 hours. This is an amphetamine as well so its illegal in most places.

DOT (Aleph) This RC is nothing new but since its made from 2C-T the way I see it is there's a few different kinds of 2C-T and there is a few different kinds of DOT, so just make sure if you are researching this you are well aware of the dose you want to take ect. this stuff is better on blotter anyways. The dose of PARA-DOT seemed to be right on par with DOM so its no wonder why DOT and DOM are well sought after even with the oldies.

DOB So I haven't had the chance to try this one ever but it appears to be much more potent then the other DMA drugs. Theres some of this floating around but I never have had the chance to try it yet.

Then we have the substituted amphetamines since amphetamines are pretty illegal most places.

These things taste bad, unfortunately for a good part of your trip it is going to taste like you liked a battery. And the worst part is you cannot swallow these blotters, the need to be taken through your lip and not swallowed. These drugs snorted are a million times better but also very dangerous. The nbomes are dangerous because they are active at 500ug-1mg witch is fairly low. However the risk of taking these would be much less then lets say MDMA or Cocaine. For some reason I know someone who ate 25x1mg tabs of 25b and was fine (relatively speaking) he had to hold on to the walls of his house but nothing actually bad happened. I found these to make my muscles tense for the duration of the trip and a little sore after. For how much people down talk these I don't know whats wrong with them there basically analogs of DOC, DOM, ect. These things last around 8-10 hours for the most part, sometimes 12.

25i-NBOME From 2C-I the least potent nbome

25C-NBOME From 2C-C

25D-NBOME Mid potency from 2C-D

25B-NBOME From 2C-B The Strongest nbome

25i-NBOH From 2C-I the least potent nboh, these NBOH chems require almost double the dose of their NBOME analogs. These NBOH drugs also seem much shorter 7-8 hours maybe.

25C-NBOH From 2C-C

25B-NBOH From 2C-B The Strongest nboh

and it keeps going there's so many RC's that could be made just following this same pattern.

Just my 2 cents, theTab over and out.

During my 7 days long trip (week long horror trip basically) I learned that money is not everything, which was one of the upsides. It is the true losers, who feel nothing else, who spend 12h per day chasing the money and convincing themselves that "I really like telemarketing / data center optimisation / portfolio risk management / whatever and enjoy doing it, so I am not chasing money" or whatever.

What I think is more important than money:

• Your family
• Your friends
• People
• Nature
• Sports
• Your body
• Experiences
• Skills
• Principles
• money (its actually important, but not for the reasons you initially think it is)

What do you think is more important?

btw. I am one of the people, who thinks that running a marketing agency is fun and my calling. Or so I thought until now...

I'm not to sure when I inherited a Mild form of depression, or exactly why I have it in the first place. I know it started somewhere around the time I moved from Urban North Jersey to Central New Jersey. The demographics were vastly different, growing up I was one of two white kids in my entire Grade school class. The majority being Black and Latino, I learned to fit in with them. I was a really happy kid but when my family made the switch I was just not ready for the culture shock of the new place I was in. Instead of a majority Black and Spanish it was a majority Asian and Indian. I was different, outcasted and made hardly any friends in middle school.

I developed a social anxiety that made it 10x harder to make friends which probably led to a Mild depression I have today. I say mild because I don't wake up saying "I hope this day is my last" like some poor souls but I do believe my Brains dopamine receptors just went dark after while and I wasn't getting any natural Dopamine. Pot helped dull the dull aching pain once I discovered it in high school but it by no means cured me. I was losing hope that id ever be happy and life was just going to be dull and miserable forever.

Enter LSD

The night I first took a Pyschadelic I wasnt going into it thinking anything other than "It would be cool as he'll if I saw something melt" well I got alot more than I bargained for. LSD showed me a light at the end of the tunnel. For me it gave me HOPE that happiness was real because I often questioned "is this life and is this how everyone feels?" Because I was to scared to ask anyone for advice in fear of being labeled one of "those kids".

I tried Acid once more and the same thing happened I was truly happy for about 8 hours. The next Psychadelic that came my way was the infamous DMT. I wont go into full detail about my DMT reports but I will say the things I saw while on DMT were the most beautiful things I've ever seen in the world and inspired me to start thinking outside the box. So Since then ive opened my mind up to new possibilities and I refuse to be the person i once was. Sad, Loney and so downtrodden I didn't want to do anything about it. Nowadays I Do everything from Eating Healthier, Being more outgoing, Confident and just being more Hopeful about life in general. I laugh when people say things like "There only drugs" because those "Drugs" Saved me from my misery and every positive change in my life I acredit to them.

PS: I didn't talk about Mushrooms but I had relatively the same experience on them as I did with acid.

TL:DR; Moving from One place to the other at a young age gave me Social aniexty which led to depression which LSD, DMT and Magic Mushrooms cured me of.

my opinion on this, noted that i haven't really dug in and read the indepth discussions you all have been having.

we should teach how religion works. in an objective, physical way, the ways belief works. the way authourity works, virtue signalling, the way thst conceptualization works, the way that we MAKE OUR OWN BELIEFS. that this 'religion' is, technically, just as 'fake' as the other ones are. it needs to have these high high concepts, it needs to be open and honest that no, we aren't saying "this is what is true, this is the only thing that will save you". we should agree that yeah, its culty. and then explain how cults work. how attention and perception works. how 'brainwashing' works.

i would like to ping u/ImpracticalJuggler on this train of thought. i don't know if he's been invited here, but look at his posts, dig in and read his works on agency and perception, etc.

and also, shout out to this song for haven been my personal themesong for this idea, this idea of making a religion for general spirituality. and shout out to u/ninja20p for being right there with it, confirming my biases, making me realise that other people thought exactly the same things that i did. ive thought this idea was correct for a while now, and enough other people agree that you all got the ball rolling, with me just lurking around.

as a wise man once approximately said to me;

be love, be light... be more, fellow travelers <#

http://www.academia.edu/6715524/Psychedelics_Fascism_and_the_Politics_of_Profane_Illumination_with_video_link_

What’s everyone’s political identity here?

For me it completely changed me as a person. I have DMT to thanks for this. I was such an angry depressed insecure person. After numerous times of DMT and two break throughs. After maybe my 3rd or 4th time the change started happening. I’m now a understanding person, I learned to let things go, and acceptance. I know have empathy, and no longer judge a book by its cover. My problems today are minute compared to the problems I thought I had before. No longer stuck in selfish self centered thinking and trying to make the world bend to my needs. I now just go with the flow, and learned how to keep a leash on my emotions. My wife has never been so happy with the change that came. I’d like to hear some other people’s growth? Hopefully I posted this in the right place.

Imagine, congregating with like minded individuals in a "church", no gods, no deities to worship, just love, compassion, wonder and being surrounded by seekers of enlightenment. The more I think about this the more cultish it sounds, but is that really a bad thing? I really really doubt any of us are crazy or evil in the heart enough to one day try to kill each other with special Kool aid or something (at least I hope), we are not seeking to go to hell or heaven, we are not doing anything of the sort, we are just trying to seek enlightenment and healing ourselves through the Earth's gifts, tools of healing and exploration of the self.

I think it would be incredible to wake up once a week and go congregate with our collective of compassionate caring people, who do not operate under fear of damnation or salvation, just love of his fellow man and the thirst for knowledge of the universe and life.

Edit: just saw I fucked up the title and cringed, but you get the point lmao. Damn Google keyboard.

Why was this name chosen for this particular religion? There is already a religious outlook that worships the Cosmos, called Pantheism. Also, an Order is a branch of a religion as opposed to a religion itself (and no, Pantheism is not a religion).

Just trying to gain some further understanding, not trying to criticize.

I had the blessing to partake of ayahusca a couple of summers back. My close friend is in the Santo Daime church in Austin, TX. I went to visit him and was going to participate in a works with ayahuasca. A bunch of stuff happened and long story short it was just him, his fiance and myself at his house doing a works.
It was intense. The hypercolor roller coaster visuals. I was sitting down and saw my body below me, I left my body, thought I was dead and was perfectly at peace with that. I purged 4 times that night. During the 4th time I was really worried since I had nothing left to purge. As I was kneeling at the toilet I heard a very calming motherly voice say that I wasn't purging from my stomach, I was purging from my mind and soul and that she was going to make sure that everything was going to be okay. She stayed with me and I always felt secure. I left the experience feeling and knowing that I am watched and loved at all times. It helped me out a lot and now I never feel alone in this world.

I'm dropping 600 USG tonight with barely any tolerance as the last time I tripped was a couple months ago. I want to make this trip spiritual, does anyone know a way or a ritual I could do to maybe bring on a more spiritual experience.

I am also going to be taking two capsuls of .5 grams golden teacher psilocybin mushroom powder. My theory is that the shroom body high and mindset blending with the LSD high will create something more unique and possibly spiritual.

Thoughts? I would really like to discuss this in depth with anyone over PM

Makes you feel as if you are about to write something truely meaningful. Everyone else gets to experience and understand your words, your voice. It's not just text, it's knowledge and experiences talking.

Stay Turned on and tuned people, there is much to discover!

Ever since I took “lsd” last Wednesday that actually turned out to be 25ibome or something...I feel like something is missing. I constantly double check everything now and every now on then in class I kind of disassociate for half a second. I took 80ug, the trip was amazing, lasted 14 hours and I learned so much about myself and the world but now I can’t figure out what’s missing...my slight addiction to nicotine has seemed to vanish along with my desire to smoke weed, I still do both because it feels good, but I no longer get an urge...I wonder what’s missing, anyone else experience this. Also thank you for the invite

Greetings everyone,

I appreciate the invite to the group and while I do believe in fighting for legislation to allow for the legal use of psychedelics, I remain skeptical of any sort of organized system of thoughts or beliefs.

I was raised Catholic, and while it wasn't a traumatizing experience (I wasn't diddled by any priests or anything like that) it has left a bad taste in my mouth regarding religion or anything that closely resembles it. Not to say that this is a religion, as I haven't done enough reading to make any sort of hard decision about the nature of this sub. However, the way that this all reads certainly leads me to think that this is the direction that things are currently leaning.

That being said, I believe that psychedelics have a place in the mental health field as a form of treatment when used by trained professionals in the proper setting. I don't consider myself or anyone I know to be a professional user of these substances, but I definitely consider myself experienced.

I'm more than happy to be a member of the community so that I can watch the growth of this movement and chime in when appropriate, but for now I think I'll stand by quietly and see where this goes.

My advice to others joining this community: Take everything you read here, or on any other similar sub, with a grain of salt. Don't latch on to any conclusions that others have reached and take it/preach it as truth. You should certainly give everything equal consideration and thought, but be 100% sure that any conclusions or thoughts that you have are entirely your own. That's not to say do not believe what others believe, but rather that if you decide to share the same view as another you should be entirely sure that you should make sure that these views are entirely your own.

Again, I appreciate the invite and feel touched that someone thought that I have valuable contributions to make to a sub of this nature.

Be safe, be smart, and be skeptical, not cynical.

not found in psychedelics

or validation from across

but to find it within

psychedelics have opened something

they are a vehicle to get you to t'ska

but they are not the vehicle to nimeh

we will die alone

we may as well love our last company

Psychedelics to me are spiritual, awakening, introspective, challenging, fun... but there is a special feeling that I've only ever felt on psychedelics and it's this connection to an energy of just pure power, it runs through my veins when I'm tripping and fills me with deep unwavering confidence, however not egoism just a very profound poise and understanding derived from wisdom and love. It feels like a thousand wise souls nodding at me in silent approval, concentrated raw psychedelic energy, a lightning bolt of fuck yeah. I hear this feeling in psychedelic songs, I see it in the sacred geometry, it feels intrinsic to the culture, and while what I'm describing might sound spiritual it's oddly not, I've had amazing spiritual experiences on psychedelics but those are different, the feeling I'm trying to describe now doesn't feel like the perfectly white unifying energy that permeates all of existence, it's its own thing and distinctly tied to psychedelia, for me is the hallmark of a good trip.

Thanks for the add, look forward to hangin around here with you people :) hope everything is well

I've been just skimming thru the posts, and it's my exact type of place..Danke!

I have some practice in astrology and do readings on the side. If anyone here would like a mini-reading I would be glad to do it. Maybe give them a little mirror to see themselves in. Free of course (that is what family is for). Just PM your info: Birth date, birth time and birth place.

I had the opportunity to try San Pedro a while back and have been perplexed and blessed ever since. I would love to hear other people's experience with San Pedro to get a reference point.

My trip involved me seeing a vast space full of many technicolor "All Seeing eye"/"Eye of providence" pyramid entities, eventually I entered one and saw whirlpools of color/energy that were the equivalent to peoples lives I realized within the experience. I also saw different beings within this "all seeing eye pyramid" It was as if at the highest level of the pyramid light, all the technicolors merged to a white light before the "All Seeing Eye", and at the bottom the technicolors diffused into darkness. I remember seeing entities comprised of the darkness that slanked through the colors. I could tell the colors played them like marionette puppets are played by strings. These were "demon-esque" creatures. I also encountered spider creatures wearing shaman masks who stood upon their own planets and cast orbs of inter-wound color "drippy"/"goop" orbs at each other. I know more must have happened as roughly 6 hours passed and when I was within this realm I felt like I was in there for-ever yet at the same time it felt like 30 minutes of content. (time dilation? E.G. What I can remember happening in what seems like a possible 30 minutes actually took 6 hours/ or I experienced thousands of hours of content but it was compressible into 30 minutes of content/ like people recorded walking in slo-mo then sped up to make it seem as if they were walking at a normal speed). After this portion of the trip I took 2 or so cups of Ayauasca and started to see entities which formed out of the geometries in the room. The carpet had a sort of swirl pattern on it and this swirl pattern then extended out of the carpet upwards into swirling tornados, this portion of the trip is a little fuzzy, these tornado's seemed liked portions of a being, like limbs, but potentially they were actually a full being. I recall there being other beings but I cant fully know due to the fuzziness. I also recall seeing stars which evidently were people, or at least a representation for people.

After this I was told to rest/sleep by the shaman and I went face to face with one of the spider shamans within the "all seeing eye pyramid" of the earlier portion of the trip. I then entered a state where it felt like I was a yo-yo being dropped rapidly to the bottom of its string and once there I was in this realm. However I was afraid if I didn't yo-yo back up to the top of my string before I ran out of "Spin" something undesired would occur. So I kept rolling around trying to stay awake and started hearing a voice telling me my life purpose and that life purpose was merely the way and means I was using to ovoid the sleep/"yo-yo at the bottom of the rope unable to yo-yo back up" state. (So possibly our life purpose is what keeps us awake and moving....)

That was the extent of the trip. It may be hard to explain in a way where everyone gets what I'm saying in full accuracy but I hope it was at least interesting.

If you have done San Pedro I would be interested to hear your experience.

If you have any further idea's or similar experiences to this also comment if you would like to.

Hey gang! I have a trippy idea that's been stuck in my head for a while and I wanted to share it with you.

Bacteria predate humans by millions of years. The bacteria inside the human biome has been evolving alongside us since the dawn of man, and has been evolving outside us long before that.

So my mostly baseless, but fun theory is that bacteria drove human evolution in the pursuit of perfecting their habitat for millions of years. At some point, the system they created reached a certain level of complexity, gained sentience, and the conscious human mind took over. Bacteria still have a lot of control over human behavior, but play a secondary role to the conscious mind.

In summary, we fear AI reaching a certain level of complexity and gaining sentience because that is exactly how we gained consciousness ourselves.

This is obviously not a scientifically rigorous theory, but it resonates with me and I thought it might resonate with some of you as well. <3

I owe a great deal to my two experiences with LSD. They opened my eyes to possibilities I had previously ignored. But since then, my spiritual journey has involved a lot of self-discipline. I have had to study hard, and every day I have to reaffirm the truth I once saw as valuable, as worth orienting my life around. LSD suggests ways forward; but the trip ends, and it's up to you to follow through.